Where do I start with Batman comics?

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I was snooping around a comic book store a few hours ago and suddenly I remembered "Of course! Batman's a comic too!" (I've been playing Arkham Asylum/City). But after flipping through hundreds of comics I'm at a loss. I have NO idea what's a good intro comic for Batman. I don't know if I'm supposed to look for the oldest print, or in the DC Comics or Gotham Stories section, and at what point it stops being kitschy idiocy about Batman handling suicidal gorillas and gets any good.

So what's a good place to start? Timeline, arc, company, writer, whatever? (No alternate reality bullshit please.)
 

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The Long Halloween is a great place to start. It's an excellent story.
 

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The traditional "right" answer is Frank Miller's Year One, and that's a very good place to start. It's a brilliant introduction for Batman, Gordon, and even Catwoman.


After that, I'd advise you to go through Jeph Loeb's arc that began with Long Halloween, and then encompassed Catwoman: When in Rome, Haunted Knight, and finally Dark Victory. These take place very early in Batman's career, and they also provide a kind of gauntlet of villains. Most of all, though, they tell the story of Harvey Dent's fall from grace--- and I implore you to read them before any other stories that heavily involve Two-Face. You should experience his fall first.


Other than that, I'd also say that while Grant Morrison has written some fantastic work with Batman, I'd recommend leaving most of his stuff until later, until you're very well-versed in Batman and his enemies. Grant Morrison's work goes down better then. The exception to this is Arkham Asylum: Serious House on Serious Earth, which is very dark in tone, but can be read at any time without feeling disjointed.


The Knightfall arc is famous, and rightly so. Along with the story of Azrael and Bane, it also provides an incredibly wide variety of the villains. Much less famous is Tim Sale's Tales of the Batman, and if you're going to read Knightfall, I'd greatly recommend reading Tales afterwards. In part, it tells the story of the Arkham inmates once they're apprehended, but with no Arkham to be sent back to, courtesy of Bane.


Finally, once you've read a few of the more fundamental titles, No Man's Land is also definitely worthy of attention (The lead-ups are Contagion and Cataclysm; I've only read the latter, so don't worry too much). Gotham is a wreck, wracked by disease and earthquake, reduced to rubble and 'excommunicated' from the United States. This is the story that really got me to respect The Penguin as a worthy nemesis.
 

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Silvanus said:
Much less famous is Tim Sale's Tales of the Batman, and if you're going to read Knightfall, I'd greatly recommend reading Tales afterwards. In part, it tells the story of the Arkham inmates once they're apprehended, but with no Arkham to be sent back to, courtesy of Bane.
I'm pretty well-versed in the Batman lore and didn't even know about that one. Thanks for the tip!

If I'd have to give one huge recommendation it would be Arkham Asylum as well. Its's a fantastic graphic novel and a standalone story that doesn't require any understanding of the Batman mythos, while introducing you to many of its characters. I'd recommend Arkham Asylum even to people who aren't into Batman or comic books in general, simply b/c its a work of art in its own right.
 

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As Silvanus said, start with Year One, good introduction to the characters and you should understand what's going on just from the movies etc. After that I'd recommend The Man Who Laughs, which is the story of Batman's first encounter with The Joker.

Then of course there's the must-reads like The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns, Arkham Asylum etc.

Oh and if you like Superman as well, then I'd recommend Superman/Batman (The 2003 series, really not liking the New 52 run thus far). Batman and Superman are basically a buddy cop team and it's awesome :D
 

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Silvanus said:
Finally, once you've read a few of the more fundamental titles, No Man's Land is also definitely worthy of attention (The lead-ups are Contagion and Cataclysm; I've only read the latter, so don't worry too much). Gotham is a wreck, wracked by disease and earthquake, reduced to rubble and 'excommunicated' from the United States. This is the story that really got me to respect The Penguin as a worthy nemesis.
I believe NML has my favorite story of all time aside from Kingdom Come involving Superman/Batman. No spoilers for those who haven't read it but it just shows how the blue boyscout doesn't have all the answers. Great series.
And your other listed story arcs are awesome, great guide. Some of those i didn't know about and must now get...
 

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Might not be the best place to START, but I totally recommend reading The Killing Joke when you can. It's one of the most classic Batman stories out there.
 

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It's not a great story but Hush is great at introducing readers to (what used to be) the modern Batman mythos.

For the current Batman you might as well just pick up the new 52 Batman title and then move onto the other Bat-titles around it.
 

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The problem I have with comics (overall) is that, unless it's a one-shot thing, like Arkham Asylum: Serious House on Serious Earth, or I get lucky and I find an all-encompassing edition of an arc (like Year One), I have to go buying a story in installments, like 15 them. And finding them all and in the right order can be such a chore.
 

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Silvanus said:
The traditional "right" answer is Frank Miller's Year One, and that's a very good place to start. It's a brilliant introduction for Batman, Gordon, and even Catwoman.

Arkham Asylum: Serious House on Serious Earth, which is very dark in tone, but can be read at any time without feeling disjointed.
Hazy992 said:
As Silvanus said, start with Year One, good introduction to the characters and you should understand what's going on just from the movies etc. After that I'd recommend The Man Who Laughs, which is the story of Batman's first encounter with The Joker.

Then of course there's the must-reads like The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns, Arkham Asylum etc.
Thanks for the recommendations! I just got back from the comic book store a couple of blocks from home. They have Year One for $18 (the collected edition) and Arkham Asylum (Serious House...) for $22. Are these good prices?
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Silvanus said:
The traditional "right" answer is Frank Miller's Year One, and that's a very good place to start. It's a brilliant introduction for Batman, Gordon, and even Catwoman.

Arkham Asylum: Serious House on Serious Earth, which is very dark in tone, but can be read at any time without feeling disjointed.
Hazy992 said:
As Silvanus said, start with Year One, good introduction to the characters and you should understand what's going on just from the movies etc. After that I'd recommend The Man Who Laughs, which is the story of Batman's first encounter with The Joker.

Then of course there's the must-reads like The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns, Arkham Asylum etc.
Thanks for the recommendations! I just got back from the comic book store a couple of blocks from home. They have Year One for $18 (the collected edition) and Arkham Asylum (Serious House...) for $22. Are these good prices?
That's about the price I pay for graphic novels from local comic shops so it's not too bad. I tend to buy most of my graphic novels from Amazon though as it's so much cheaper, Year One is like £8 (about $12) on there.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Thanks for the recommendations! I just got back from the comic book store a couple of blocks from home. They have Year One for $18 (the collected edition) and Arkham Asylum (Serious House...) for $22. Are these good prices?
That's about the price I pay for graphic novels from local comic shops so it's not too bad. I tend to buy most of my graphic novels from Amazon though as it's so much cheaper, Year One is like £8 (about $12) on there.
It's hard to calculate (what with dollars being outlawed and the peso-dollar ratio fucked up) but the prices I mentioned are mentioned are probably closer to $16 and $20. Mint copies, too. I've been snooping around Amazon and eBay for a bit and it seems that a new copy + shipping cost to Argentina would probably end up being more expensive than simply shelling out at the store. Wasn't very sure though.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Hazy992 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
Thanks for the recommendations! I just got back from the comic book store a couple of blocks from home. They have Year One for $18 (the collected edition) and Arkham Asylum (Serious House...) for $22. Are these good prices?
That's about the price I pay for graphic novels from local comic shops so it's not too bad. I tend to buy most of my graphic novels from Amazon though as it's so much cheaper, Year One is like £8 (about $12) on there.
It's hard to calculate (what with dollars being outlawed and the peso-dollar ratio fucked up) but the prices I mentioned are mentioned are probably closer to $16 and $20. Mint copies, too. I've been snooping around Amazon and eBay for a bit and it seems that a new copy + shipping cost to Argentina would probably end up being more expensive than simply shelling out at the store. Wasn't very sure though.
Well in that case it's probably not a bad deal. Amazon is unusually cheap considering prices elsewhere, so at around $16 it's not bad. I'd probably pick it up for that price.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
Thanks for the recommendations! I just got back from the comic book store a couple of blocks from home. They have Year One for $18 (the collected edition) and Arkham Asylum (Serious House...) for $22. Are these good prices?
Those are good prices for graphic novels of that size/ quality, I'd say. I remember paying even more for Arkham Asylum, but mine was a special edition of some kind.


Are you interested in stuff that has a supernatural edge to it? Lots of Batfans prefer the down-to-earth stuff. Either way, I have a few more recommendations for you, which were both ones I read back when my interest was just beginning.

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Thanks guys!
 

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Like with any other comic, it doesn't really matter. It sounds like you'd want to avoid silver age comics though (which is insane: you're going to miss out on Batman's Zebra suit). Maybe you'd like Dark Knight Returns or, if you're looking for something more modern, you might like the recent Court of Owls thing. I really liked Killing Joke so maybe you will to (also Long Halloween: I liked that one a lot too).
 

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stroopwafel said:
Silvanus said:
Much less famous is Tim Sale's Tales of the Batman, and if you're going to read Knightfall, I'd greatly recommend reading Tales afterwards. In part, it tells the story of the Arkham inmates once they're apprehended, but with no Arkham to be sent back to, courtesy of Bane.
I'm pretty well-versed in the Batman lore and didn't even know about that one. Thanks for the tip!

If I'd have to give one huge recommendation it would be Arkham Asylum as well. Its's a fantastic graphic novel and a standalone story that doesn't require any understanding of the Batman mythos, while introducing you to many of its characters. I'd recommend Arkham Asylum even to people who aren't into Batman or comic books in general, simply b/c its a work of art in its own right.
Agreed. Also, your username is delicious.
 

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Silvanus said:
Are you interested in stuff that has a supernatural edge to it? Lots of Batfans prefer the down-to-earth stuff. Either way, I have a few more recommendations for you, which were both ones I read back when my interest was just beginning.
I'm not particularly interested on the supernatural. I opted for the Arkham graphic novel because I'm playing Asylum and it seemed appropriate (freaky and surreal as the take is). But I'm definitely more onto the down-to-earth stuff in stories, as far as Batman is concerned. I saw Year One and Long Halloween for $16 and about $20-25 each in the same store where I bought Arkham so I'll probably be checking them out later, in that order. I asked about Knightfall because I've always been a fan of Bane (Nolan's version nonwithstanding) but the dude in the store told me it's a massive arc spanning 4 volumes or so and lots of colleceted comics, so it's a bit overwhelming for me at the time.

I also saw they had A Death in the Family. Is that any good?