Who else likes that vintage music sound?

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Malaclemys

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To start this off - I'd like to tell you this will be a rant.
I'm willing to receive any form of disapproval, though I doubt I'd find much.

As a composer and audio engineer, I feel quite insulted by most modern music records.
It's not the simplicity, the lack of polyphony, or the lack of interesting harmony progressions, though those really do annoy me too.

What annoys me the most are the vocals, or rather - the backing vocals.
Listen to an old Beatles song (or whatever) where a few people sing at once. You can hear them all perfectly, but NO! What I call the "new-age" audio engineer proceeds to cut frequencies out of the backing vocalist's melody. That achieves ducking the backvocalist behind the main melody. Although this is what a backing vocal means, it is really annoying to be treated like a baby, that couldn't recognize a melody from its harmonious support. It's like saying "DON'T LISTEN TO THE OTHER VOICES! THEY ARE NOT IMPORTANT. DO YOU HEAR THIS ONE? THE ONLY ONE A HUMAN EAR CAN RECOGNIZE WITHOUT TOO MUCH EFFORT!? Good, focus on that. We don't want you to, you know, get confused".

This tends to ruin the supporting effect and the power of a chorus and it also leads to what I call the "compressor" effect, since the chorus and the verse become equally... Well - bland.

Also, you must have heard how "clean" every piece in the twenty-first century sounds.
Thanks, Autotune! Now we don't have even the slightest buzz in notes, so our ears could get just a little excitement. Honestly, it's like making a wasteland in fallout out of bathroom tiles and designing it oval, so it has no edges, because everything has to be TIDY.

I realize this forum may not be the best place for a musician's rant, but fuck it, you people seem nice.
 

Malaclemys

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ninjastovall0 said:
Vintage music has what i like to call "fuzz"(not really fuzz but the sound seems soft/glazed by the technology of the time) also with older movies (70/80's) that I find intolerable.
I know what you mean.
I've studied what old movies have, so here's the magic. Most of them have their audio recorded on top of the video, not at once, which has a nice effect (I've used it in a couple of short clips myself) and they're also recorded with a tape recorder, which makes a hiss, that is pleasant to the human ear.

The fuzz is probably everyone recording everything at once, so it gets kind of mixed up, but I like that. Also, recording on tape gets a bit wibbly-wobbly, so frequencies pulsate a bit. That tends to give out a nice, thick, vintage effect.
 

Limecake

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I've never subscribed to the belief that records or tapes sound better because of the 'warmth' they give off (clicks, pops, fuzz etc.)

Also I see no problem in removing frequencies from backing vocals, it gives the main lines a nice 'hole' to fit in and make the overall sound much smoother. Since most people won't notice a slight drop in frequency in the background vocals anyway.

I'd be interested to know what you think about electronic music, It's just that I've heard this argument a lot from 'purists' who believe that all new music is horrible and that records (with all their faults) are still the best way to listen to music.
 

Chased

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Limecake said:
I've never subscribed to the belief that records or tapes sound better because of the 'warmth' they give off (clicks, pops, fuzz etc.)

Also I see no problem in removing frequencies from backing vocals, it gives the main lines a nice 'hole' to fit in and make the overall sound much smoother. Since most people won't notice a slight drop in frequency in the background vocals anyway.

I'd be interested to know what you think about electronic music, It's just that I've heard this argument a lot from 'purists' who believe that all new music is horrible and that records (with all their faults) are still the best way to listen to music.
You can still get that vintage sound with electronic music by heavily processing it.

 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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I don't care what anyone says, analog mediums like tapes and LP's will always sound better than digital recordings. Just more 'natural' if that's the right phrase. Just feels more like real music.