Why does California suck?

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RaDeuX

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I was born and lived in Japan for about 3 years until I moved to California. My dad is a programmer, and the Silicon Valley is a hotspot for software developers. Since the Silicon Valley has a better job market, we moved here.

One of the best things about California is the weather. It gets so hot and humid during summer in Japan, and fairly cold during the winter. In California, we get at least 300 days of sunshine. There's also a great variety of food that many other places in the U.S. don't have (Mexican, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indian, et cetera). You could argue that marijuana usage is more relaxed here, but I guess that depends from person to person (personally, I don't think weed is THAT great).

Some of the cons are the smog issues and high taxes. California has an unfortunate geographical location where it's affected by China's pollution. Don't believe me? Here's my sauce: http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2010/12/01/california-pollution-made-in-china/
High taxes are just the nature of a liberal state, I suppose. I am not a politician or economic expert by any means, so that's just my amateur speculation. Oh, and gun laws. Though I don't see why this is a huge issue, as stun guns are generally known to be more effective than firearms.

Just like any other state, California has its pros and cons. Why do people (outside of California and moved into California) insist that California is a horrible place to live?

On a side note, I'm going to North Carolina State University to get my bachelor's degree in computer science. I'm going to travel across America as the only states have visited were Nevada (Reno) and Hawai'i (Honolulu). I may live in the RTP area after I graduate, but we'll see.

On another side note, this new Captcha feature is a PITA.
 

WolfThomas

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Well from what I've heard your gun laws are some of the most restrictive in the country (some are even more harsh than over here in Australia). But that's probably not a problem for most people.
 

Artina89

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I have a friend who would give her right arm to go back to California. It beats living in the UK according to her, and since I want to eventually get a job in Canada, I must say I agree. I have never lived in California, or really set foot in the state, so I really can't comment, but a lot of my friends in the states (who live in New York, Chicago and Minnesota) would rather go to California than Florida, so I was under the impression that Florida wasn't a very nice place to live.

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ChaoticKraus

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Now, i'm not from the US but from what i hear it's sounds like a pretty sweet place.

I imagine some kind of laid-back wonderland of palm trees, stoners, surfers, hollywood glitz, multicultural restaurants and violent policemen.

However as a swede i would probably find the heat exhausting pretty quick, but even then i want to check it out some time.
 

RaDeuX

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ChaoticKraus said:
I imagine some kind of laid-back wonderland of palm trees, stoners, surfers, hollywood glitz, multicultural restaurants and violent policemen.
You got the gist of it. There's also a lot of illegal immigrants pouring in as well.
 

Scolar Visari

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Shitty politicians, shitty people, shitty climate and shitty gun laws. That about covers it.

Before anyone gets their panties too twisted, not everyone in Cali is horrible. Just most of 'em.
 

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I went to blizzcon in california, from new zealand, in 2010, and while i cant state on any laws / what its like to live there.
I really enjoyed the time i spent in california, and would go back for a holiday anytime.
But i think that once ive finished studying, in 3 years, im gunna try get a job in aussie or canada.
 

Gaiseric

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Scolar Visari said:
Shitty politicians, shitty people, shitty climate and shitty gun laws. That about covers it.

Before anyone gets their panties too twisted, not everyone in Cali is horrible. Just most of 'em.
I'm glad you had that spoiler. I live in Southern CA.

OP: I'm not a huge fan of the weather(I like it colder) or the political climate(taxes get higher and nothing ever gets better and I like my guns). Probably doesn't help CA's image that a lot of people here seem to dismiss other states flat out as inferior.

Like most things it comes down to personal preferences and what you consider important. Me I plan on moving at some point. CA is okay and I've lived here all my life, but it doesn't seem to be for me anymore.

This thread reminded me when I went to Arizona to shoot some automatic weapons at a range(one of the best moments of my life!). The guy knew I wasn't local and asked where I was from and when I responded with California he looked at me right in the eye and said,"I'm sorry." 100% dead serious. I thought it was funny as hell even though his bluntness surprised me. He was just talking about the gun laws, but still funny to me.
ChaoticKraus said:
I imagine some kind of laid-back wonderland of palm trees, stoners, surfers, hollywood glitz, multicultural restaurants and violent policemen.
Not really. The only time I saw a celebrity was at a Heaven and Hell concert and I think I saw Brain Posehn(google). Not all that laid back either.

Restaurants are good though, so that's a plus.
 

Suijen

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I'm from CA. Some parts suck, some don't (obviously). California as unique weather, and usually it's quite sunny, so I can imagine why some sun-haters would hate California.
 

Hobonicus

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People say California sucks? I was not aware of this. Far and away the best state in America to me, though a lot of people don't understand that there are some big differences between north and south California.
 

Angry Camel

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Sounds quite a bit like Australia there. I really should travel there some time.

I'm not sure why people say it suckes over there. The heat maybe? I have no clue really.
 

Grey Walker

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The only reason I can think of is the strange laws that they pass, or try to pass there.

But I haven't heard anyone badmouth California itself.
 

tsb247

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I have some family that live in California. It's a nice place to visit, but I would NEVER want to live there, and they don't really like it much either. They were forced to move there for work.

The weather is boring, the people are... weird (well, a LOT of them are), gun laws = SUCK (and they don't work - the gangs get their weapons anyway), taxes are high, and the state is currently bankrupt. Yeah, it's not that nice of a place. The cost of living is so high that's it's not really worth it. I'm not sure if any of you have looked at the cost of a house in California. A 900 square foot bungalow can go for $500,000 in some places! Renting isn't really any cheaper either. If one does manage to find a cheap place to live, you will probably find yourself dodging bullets on the way to your door (if you live in a place like Oakland or downtown LA).

I can see no reason why anyone would want to live in California.
 

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ChaoticKraus said:
Now, i'm not from the US but from what i hear it's sounds like a pretty sweet place.

I imagine some kind of laid-back wonderland of palm trees, stoners, surfers, hollywood glitz, multicultural restaurants and violent policemen.

However as a swede i would probably find the heat exhausting pretty quick, but even then i want to check it out some time.
It so isn't like that outside of Los Angeles.


I've lived in California for my entire life and just watched it get worse and worse. My county especially. We are the second worst place in the states to try and find employment. I want to move to the UK. Our education system sucks(at least in my city). I could probably come up with a million and one reasons why not to move to California if I really wanted to and had the time. However as I am going to bed.......
 

LuckyClover95

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Here's my sauce. http://www.google.co.uk/search?rlz=1C1GGGE_enGB348GB348&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=ketchup

Anyway, I think California's a lovely place, but I was only there for 2 weeks. Maybe people like to complain :p
 

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RaDeuX said:
ChaoticKraus said:
I imagine some kind of laid-back wonderland of palm trees, stoners, surfers, hollywood glitz, multicultural restaurants and violent policemen.
You got the gist of it. There's also a lot of illegal immigrants pouring in as well.
Those illegal immigrant are people willing to take on the shittiest jobs in the state to escape grinding poverty in their home countries, and they typically tend to be the hardest working people you've ever met.
 

aba1

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arnold screwed over the Canadian film industry and Hollywood is constantly trying to get people to stop filming in Canada not to mention Arnolds attempts to slow the video game industry... you know with all these economic declines you think you'd want to be creating buisness not getting rid of it regardless of country esspecially with all the trade that happens between us