Why is under-eating more demonized than overeating in society?

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afroebob

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Before we start, I'm not trying to demonize either side. I have my personal opinion for both topics and I am choosing to keep it to myself. This thread isn't about anybody's personal belief on either topic, this is just about trying to discuss why society, for the most part, demonizes undereating more and overeating.

Anyhow, as we can probably all agree, people tend to harbor more negative feelings towards undereating than overeating. What I am wondering is why this is. As for negative effects on bodily health, they can both be equally as bad as one another and can lead to sickness and death.

So, the best that I can come up with isn't about the actual degree of health ramifications. Instead, I think it is two things. The first is the actual reason for why people chose their eating habits. Undereating is, in most cases, due to a negative body image. People who under-eat believe they need to be skinny to impress other people (in the most simplified reasoning), while overeating is a form of self-indulgence. From what I have seen, the idea of self-indulgence is something that people respond better to than the idea of harming yourself to impress others.

The other thing I can think of is that their are many more people who overeat than undereat. We are surrounded by obesity in most of the places where we live, but rarely come across somebody who is noticeably undernourished, and as anybody in a minority group will tell you that as people we tend to be more generally less accepting of groups of people who don't fit into what is considered 'normal' than does who do.

Anyhow, that is my two cents, I was just wondering what other people thought.

Just a note before I leave, remember, this is NOT a thread that is for putting people down or saying their is something wrong with their eating habits. This is just the same as if somebody asked why certain people dislike one political group more than another, or why some people dislike people based on their sexuality i.e. we aren't looking to bash anyone, we are just trying to have a discussion about society. We all talk maturely about topics like those, and I think that while this is admittedly an abnormal topic, it still falls into that same category of societal discussion. So, please, no hatred, no bashing and no hurting people, please. Lets just try to have a nice, mature discussion.
 

Zhukov

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Under-eating isn't more "demonized" than overeating.

Not even fucking close.

It's so not close that I'm having trouble coming up with a sufficiently silly metaphor. Perhaps something involving fluffy bunnies and pedophiles?

Fat people are regarded and depicted as gross, revolting, unattractive, unintelligent and legitimate targets for ridicule. People who under-eat are, at the very worst, pitied as victims of body image and the media.
 

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Zhukov said:
Fat people are regarded and depicted as gross, revolting, unattractive, unintelligent and legitimate targets for ridicule. People who under-eat are, at the very worst, pitied as victims of body image and the media.
You must come from a very different place than I come from, because where I live it is pretty much demonized if somebody has an eating disorder such as bulimia or anorexia, but obesity is more or less fine. Then again, I live in the States where everybody is fat, so this could be totally different in other countries, or even just different parts of the US. Its just from my experience people have been OK with being fat, but not eating is despicable.
 
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People who under-eat are considered victims of societal standards of body image and tend to be pitied.

Overweight people are considered greedy and lazy, with no self control.

Which one is more demonised again?
 

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afroebob said:
The snip of death
Nope. Not even a little bit. I don't know where you live but most places I know anything about Anorexia/bulimia are considered diseases, being fat is considered being a greedy, lazy bastard.
 

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Zhukov said:
Under-eating isn't more "demonized" than overeating.

Not even fucking close.

It's so not close that I'm having trouble coming up with a sufficiently silly metaphor. Perhaps something involving fluffy bunnies and pedophiles?

Fat people are regarded and depicted as gross, revolting, unattractive, unintelligent and legitimate targets for ridicule. People who under-eat are, at the very worst, pitied as victims of body image and the media.
I agree. While there is growing awareness about anorexia and bulimia, it's the "overeater" crowd that gets far more flak from the general public, doubly so if you're female.

Fat people are one of the last "free passes" for ridicule by society, partly because it's harder to hide. Never mind if the person in question might have a physical condition that prevents them from losing weight. Never mind if they're too poor to afford better food. Never mind if they have a nice personality and friendly disposition. They're fat, therefore they're scum. That's what the media and the fashion industry preach in this day and age. Indeed, it's this obsession with thinness that drives some people to starving/purging themselves in the first place.
Daystar Clarion said:
People who under-eat are considered victims of societal standards of body image and tend to be pitied.

Overweight people are considered greedy and lazy, with no self control.

Which one is more demonised again?
Again, I agree.

When people see an anorexic/bulemic person they think, "oh that poor dear, look what society has done to them."

When people see an obese person, they think "look at that fat sack of shit. What a loser. Why won't they just lose weight?"

That's what I tend to observe where I live, at any rate.
 

Zhukov

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afroebob said:
Zhukov said:
Fat people are regarded and depicted as gross, revolting, unattractive, unintelligent and legitimate targets for ridicule. People who under-eat are, at the very worst, pitied as victims of body image and the media.
You must come from a very different place than I come from, because where I live it is pretty much demonized if somebody has an eating disorder such as bulimia or anorexia, but obesity is more or less fine. Then again, I live in the States where everybody is fat, so this could be totally different in other countries, or even just different parts of the US. Its just from my experience people have been OK with being fat, but not eating is despicable.
I'm from Australia. We have plenty of fat folks too. Last I heard, our obesity rates were roughly on par with yours.

As for the US, I've never lived there, so there's only so much I can say. However, I can say that your media, like most media, is full of skinny women and athletic men. The only time you see a fat person in the limelight is when they're being made fun of.

Of course, media isn't reality, but it does reflect it.
 

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I think it is the total opposite.
Girls are expected to eat like birds.

You see a fat person you think greedy, lazy, lack of self discipline.
YOu see a anorexic skinny person you think they are unstable but not greedy or lazy.
 

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I uhhhh... what? You have that total backward. Under-eating and many other unhealthy habits are glorified in the name of achieving ideal beauty whereas over-eating is looked upon as unhealthy, unappealing and characterized by a lack of self control. I have no idea where you are coming from with this one.
 

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I don't think those who over-eat are more or less demonized than those who under-eat. What happens however is that people who eat too little are often considered as victims of society while people who over-eat are seen as people who made stupid decisions.
 

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Yeah, I've hardly heard of fat people being less demonized than undereaters. To be fair, both are fairly unhealthy, but skinny is just seem as better.
 

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While I do think overeating is demonized way more. There are a few situations where under-eating can make people angry. Some people take it as a personal insult if you turn down offered food, especially if they were the ones who cooked it.

Also there are some people who wish they could eat less and get annoyed when someone chooses healthier alternative to what they just ordered. I notice this mostly with exercise. I loooove running and me just mentioning that I plan on going for a run later (when asked what I'm going to do tonight). People would give excuses or even talk about how harmful exercise is (citing extreme examples), because they need to make themselves feel better for not exercising.

I'm dangerously underweight due to severe depression and no one seems to demonize me. Now my depression on the other hand... society stigmatizes that, especially suicidal feelings (people get actually angry if you are not thrilled to be alive)
 

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Yeah, skinny people aren't demonised more than fat people, unless you mean more than they should be, and assume that fat people should be demonised to begin with.

Not saying that's the OP's intent, but a conscious or subconscious bias is the only way I could expand this.
 

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Both are terrible. There are medical reasons why some people are fat, there are medical reasons why some people are skinny.

Fat people are more common lately. Malnourished people aren't. When my friends and I see a fat person we don't bat an eye (as I myself am overweight, though quite healthy for it) but when we see someone sickly thin (another of my friends is a stick, even though she eats even more than me, I think my metabolism was added to hers somehow) we make comments to each other. I'm taking gap in the thighs, legs that look like they shouldn't be able to hold up the body skinny, which is sadly becoming rather common too.

It depends on your society. And it doesn't have to the the country wide society, it can be a smaller group of people you associate with. Some people still find overweight (but not unhealthy) to be attractive. Some people find banging somebody so skinny they have sharp edges attractive (I'm guessing anyways, otherwise why would people do it? Barring medical issues, I mean).
 

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wombat_of_war said:
companies spend billions of dollars convincing people to overindulge in fast foods, etc thats why its socially acceptable
Companies also spend billions of dollars convincing people to buy diet pills and exercise equipment, though.
 

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Am I judging people by the things they chose to eat? No.
Am I pitying them if they die from overly fat food or starve on the catwalk? No.

Live and let live.
 

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Erm...apparently I'm not the only one who disagrees with the OP on this one. Last I checked people with eating disorders were generally pitied, or unfortunately held on a pedistel as what people should be, whereas few seem to have the same standard for fat people, so...troll post? I'm not trying to accuse the OP of this, but I am genuinely uncertain of where this view came from. It doesn't seem to really be in line with reality.