Why we do let EA abuse us and get all hyped up for TitanFall?

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The Crispy Tiger

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EA has been continuously abusive and the news on them these days only seem to be getting worse (look up Code Wars). With all of this information about EA's business practices, should continue to hype and support games being published by EA. I mean, I don't know. I genuinely have my ears open to what the community thinks on this one. Give me your guy's comments, I would love to hear it.
 

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Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA and they're making a very interesting looking game. Pure and simple really. I'm not going to stop myself from buying every single game that has EA on it just to prove a point. If I really want a game, I will get it.
 

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erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA and they're making a very interesting looking game. Pure and simple really. I'm not going to stop myself from buying every single game that has EA on it just to prove a point. If I really want a game, I will get it.
Pretty much this, it's been said before by Respawn themselves that EA doesn't have complete control over their game, so far it's gone quite well and I too loved playing the beta gameplay and look forward to buying the full version when it comes out.

What I honestly don't get though is how a lot of people ehre while hating on EA and now it seems Respawn included forget about all the other "evil" pubs and devs out there, Valve still ain't the shining brimming golden goose of the lot.
 

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I am one of those people that boycotted EA. I heard a lot of people also did it, but I am not sure how many stuck with it. So my answer is I don't let EA abuse me.

My hesitation with EA started with the release of Mass Effect 2, my boycott became reality with the release of Dragon Age 2. So I don't allow myself to get excited for games published by them. There isn't just one reason, but several and those reasons were piling up since the first Dragon Age. Bioware games weren't the only EA ones I played, but they were my favourite so it was through those games I noticed something was wrong.
 

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The only thing that really bothered me about EA was that letter from a programmer's wife that got published a few years ago detailing how their employees were systematically abused. That's something I'd consider boycotting a company over. But I haven't heard too many allegations since then so I assume the working conditions must have been improved to some degree.

As for Titanfall I'm not really that hyped about it; it looks like a competently made shooter with mechs and jumping on roofs, which is pretty interesting, but not Witcher 3 level interesting.
 

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erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA
I'd say this pretty much sums things up.

/thread. :p

Seriously though, until recently I didn't even know that EA was the publisher behind Titan Fall. All I knew was that it was being made by Respawn, which was a studio formed by many of the key people that made up Infinity Ward. Honestly I think the whole "EA Sucks" thing is getting pretty old at this point. Yeah, they've done some really shitty things in the past, but to their credit they do seem to be keeping to their word about wanting to try and turn their image around due to having won Worst Company in America two years in a row by doing stuff such as getting rid of the whole Online Pass thing.

So yeah, the game looks fun, that's all I really need to know about it. I'm not going to condemn a game just because it has the letters EA stamped onto it. I mean hell, did you see the article about what Respawn said with regards to their beta? "We don't want you to buy our game on faith alone. We want you to try it first. We want you to play the beta and if you can't get in then ask people who have played it to get a sense of whether or not you'd enjoy it. If you've played the game and don't like it, then don't buy it. But please write to Respawn, EA, and Microsoft and let us know what about the game you don't like." Seems like Respawn is a company that wants to get off on the right foot with it's customers.
 

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Another good question to ask is why repeat a thread from yesterday [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.842592-Why-do-people-hype-Titanfall-when-they-were-supposed-to-boycott-EA-Why-EA-treats-you-like-a-*****]? Well, this game isn't as critical as the last one, but they are the same thing - I was wandering if I imagining the last one being locked. Anyway, points from before still stand

Andy Shandy said:
Maybe because the gaming community isn't one big hivemind that makes decisions for all? The people who are hyping the game (like myself) are likely not the same people who are boycotting EA (like yourself).

Or maybe the reasons that some people boycott certain games don't exist in Titanfall.

Or simply, some don't give a fuck about the politics of buying a game and just want a cool game where they can run up walls and punch mechs with other mechs.
tippy2k2 said:
Andy already said it but to show my individuality, I will say it again: We are not a hive mind

There are gamers that think that EA should be boycotted, there are gamers who look on games on an individual case-by-case basis, and there are gamers who buy whatever floats in front of them because they won the lottery.

Every single person here has a different opinion on how to purchase their games. Some of us find Day 1 DLC a giant slap in the face with a digital dick while others say that it gives us more stuff to do and the devs have a month of downtime between games becoming gold and actually shipping. Some of us treat microtransactions like the plague while others could not care less. Some of us find the lack of certain features (dedicated servers, modding, etc.) a travesty in the gaming world while others just plain don't care in any way, shape, or form.

Once again; hive mind, we are not one.
And so on. People are different, one cannot say that EA are universally hated to the point of everybody hating them. Easily provable by EA still being alive and selling games. Therefore, some people, actually a sizeable number, would buy their games.
 

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Who says I'm getting hyped up for Titanfall? It looks to be an interesting concept but multiplayer really isn't my thing.
 

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Why is hating EA supposed to be the 'default' expected behavior?

Anyway, I'm not hyped for this game at all.
DoPo said:
Another good question to ask is why repeat a thread from yesterday [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.842592-Why-do-people-hype-Titanfall-when-they-were-supposed-to-boycott-EA-Why-EA-treats-you-like-a-*****]?
People often like to remake a thread immediately after one gets locked, I've noticed.
I have no idea why.

Examples:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.842323-Facebok-rejects-the-gender-binary-D?page=8
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.842459-Facebook-adds-fifty-new-gender-options
 

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I had my hate train all fired up and was ready to completely ignore Titanfall because it is an EA game and would likely have micro transactions and 6 DLC map packs within the first month as well as a pay 2 win system. They may have even decided to add a subscription fee because why not?

However then I discovered in another thread that EA wasn't actually responsible for this game. It was made by Respawn and EA is only distributing it, they put their name on it because they were worried it would sell too well or something so I guess so they needed a deterrent. I think they did this for Kingdoms of Amular as well, EA didn't make it but they distributed it and I enjoyed that game well enough. I'd like to get Titanfall but it requires Origin on PC so its going to be a pass for me.
 

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...Um, because it's actually a good game...maybe?

If EA is going to publish, and make actual good games, and not a load of rubbish churned out like every year like they do with reckless abandon, then I don't mind giving my cash to the corporate juggernaut that is EA. Who knows then maybe, just maybe, they are then able to fund, or publish something that's actually worth a damn in the future too.

Boycotting is just silly as hell. People who don't buy games, just because of a certain publisher, or developer, need to get their head's out of their own arse, and make judgements based on the actual game itself, rather than the games industry making opinions for them.

At least that's what I think, feel free to disagree.
 

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erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA and they're making a very interesting looking game. Pure and simple really. I'm not going to stop myself from buying every single game that has EA on it just to prove a point. If I really want a game, I will get it.
Just because EA isn't developing doesn't make it right, that makes it an excuse...
 

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RJ 17 said:
erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA
I'd say this pretty much sums things up.

/thread. :p

Seriously though, until recently I didn't even know that EA was the publisher behind Titan Fall. All I knew was that it was being made by Respawn, which was a studio formed by many of the key people that made up Infinity Ward. Honestly I think the whole "EA Sucks" thing is getting pretty old at this point. Yeah, they've done some really shitty things in the past, but to their credit they do seem to be keeping to their word about wanting to try and turn their image around due to having won Worst Company in America two years in a row by doing stuff such as getting rid of the whole Online Pass thing.

So yeah, the game looks fun, that's all I really need to know about it. I'm not going to condemn a game just because it has the letters EA stamped onto it. I mean hell, did you see the article about what Respawn said with regards to their beta? "We don't want you to buy our game on faith alone. We want you to try it first. We want you to play the beta and if you can't get in then ask people who have played it to get a sense of whether or not you'd enjoy it. If you've played the game and don't like it, then don't buy it. But please write to Respawn, EA, and Microsoft and let us know what about the game you don't like." Seems like Respawn is a company that wants to get off on the right foot with it's customers.
BULLSHIT. They've said that and then kept on being shitty except the shitty things they keeep doing just aren't getting enough media attention besides ScrewAttack. EA has arguably gotten worse in some areas and it's unacceptable...
 

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The Crispy Tiger said:
erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA and they're making a very interesting looking game. Pure and simple really. I'm not going to stop myself from buying every single game that has EA on it just to prove a point. If I really want a game, I will get it.
Just because EA isn't developing doesn't make it right, that makes it an excuse...
So what am I supposed to do? Refuse to buy any EA game no matter how much I want it? It won't make things any better, in fact I'd argue that it'd make things worse. EA is always going to have a steady supply of income from their crappy copy paste games like Madden, refusing to buy a game that looks good and truly innovates will hurt the industry. Because the people at EA aren't going to say "Oh, people didn't buy Titanfall because we're dicks" they're going to say "Well, trying new things doesn't work, let's just keep making the same bland stuff that we know will sell."
 

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I never fully got the EA hatred. Is this about Mass Effect's ending? Or about the companies they absorb every now and then? Because that's what companies do. And I never played Mass Effect.
 

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DoPo said:
Another good question to ask is why repeat a thread from yesterday [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.842592-Why-do-people-hype-Titanfall-when-they-were-supposed-to-boycott-EA-Why-EA-treats-you-like-a-*****]? Well, this game isn't as critical as the last one, but they are the same thing - I was wandering if I imagining the last one being locked. Anyway, points from before still stand

Andy Shandy said:
Maybe because the gaming community isn't one big hivemind that makes decisions for all? The people who are hyping the game (like myself) are likely not the same people who are boycotting EA (like yourself).

Or maybe the reasons that some people boycott certain games don't exist in Titanfall.

Or simply, some don't give a fuck about the politics of buying a game and just want a cool game where they can run up walls and punch mechs with other mechs.
tippy2k2 said:
Andy already said it but to show my individuality, I will say it again: We are not a hive mind

There are gamers that think that EA should be boycotted, there are gamers who look on games on an individual case-by-case basis, and there are gamers who buy whatever floats in front of them because they won the lottery.

Every single person here has a different opinion on how to purchase their games. Some of us find Day 1 DLC a giant slap in the face with a digital dick while others say that it gives us more stuff to do and the devs have a month of downtime between games becoming gold and actually shipping. Some of us treat microtransactions like the plague while others could not care less. Some of us find the lack of certain features (dedicated servers, modding, etc.) a travesty in the gaming world while others just plain don't care in any way, shape, or form.

Once again; hive mind, we are not one.
And so on. People are different, one cannot say that EA are universally hated to the point of everybody hating them. Easily provable by EA still being alive and selling games. Therefore, some people, actually a sizeable number, would buy their games.
The guy's post was locked and he got on probation (I thought). The original title for this thread was: Let's rephrase this shall we:
 

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The Crispy Tiger said:
RJ 17 said:
erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA
I'd say this pretty much sums things up.

/thread. :p

Seriously though, until recently I didn't even know that EA was the publisher behind Titan Fall. All I knew was that it was being made by Respawn, which was a studio formed by many of the key people that made up Infinity Ward. Honestly I think the whole "EA Sucks" thing is getting pretty old at this point. Yeah, they've done some really shitty things in the past, but to their credit they do seem to be keeping to their word about wanting to try and turn their image around due to having won Worst Company in America two years in a row by doing stuff such as getting rid of the whole Online Pass thing.

So yeah, the game looks fun, that's all I really need to know about it. I'm not going to condemn a game just because it has the letters EA stamped onto it. I mean hell, did you see the article about what Respawn said with regards to their beta? "We don't want you to buy our game on faith alone. We want you to try it first. We want you to play the beta and if you can't get in then ask people who have played it to get a sense of whether or not you'd enjoy it. If you've played the game and don't like it, then don't buy it. But please write to Respawn, EA, and Microsoft and let us know what about the game you don't like." Seems like Respawn is a company that wants to get off on the right foot with it's customers.
BULLSHIT. They've said that and then kept on being shitty except the shitty things they keeep doing just aren't getting enough media attention besides ScrewAttack. EA has arguably gotten worse in some areas and it's unacceptable...
Forgive me if I don't run out and get myself a tinfoil hat, they just don't look good on me.
 

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RJ 17 said:
The Crispy Tiger said:
RJ 17 said:
erttheking said:
Because Respawn Entertainment isn't EA
I'd say this pretty much sums things up.

/thread. :p

Seriously though, until recently I didn't even know that EA was the publisher behind Titan Fall. All I knew was that it was being made by Respawn, which was a studio formed by many of the key people that made up Infinity Ward. Honestly I think the whole "EA Sucks" thing is getting pretty old at this point. Yeah, they've done some really shitty things in the past, but to their credit they do seem to be keeping to their word about wanting to try and turn their image around due to having won Worst Company in America two years in a row by doing stuff such as getting rid of the whole Online Pass thing.

So yeah, the game looks fun, that's all I really need to know about it. I'm not going to condemn a game just because it has the letters EA stamped onto it. I mean hell, did you see the article about what Respawn said with regards to their beta? "We don't want you to buy our game on faith alone. We want you to try it first. We want you to play the beta and if you can't get in then ask people who have played it to get a sense of whether or not you'd enjoy it. If you've played the game and don't like it, then don't buy it. But please write to Respawn, EA, and Microsoft and let us know what about the game you don't like." Seems like Respawn is a company that wants to get off on the right foot with it's customers.
BULLSHIT. They've said that and then kept on being shitty except the shitty things they keeep doing just aren't getting enough media attention besides ScrewAttack. EA has arguably gotten worse in some areas and it's unacceptable...
Forgive me if I don't run out and get myself a tinfoil hat, they just don't look good on me.
I will wear my Tinfoil hat in pride!!!
 

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I'm one of those gamers that decides on a game by game basis. I stay away from games that are in my opinion bad, are anti-consumer or don't meet my interests. I buy games that are in my opinion good, have acceptable levels of 'anti-consumer additions' (can't blame companies for just trying to protect against piracy), and meet my interests.

Simple as that. If a game -I- like gets messed with, I speak out or boycott or whatever. If it happens to a game others like, I leave it up to them to 'fight' for it. You can't join everything all the time. For one, you'd be in a constant 'uproar' because it seems every week if not every few days something new happens that you could get angry about. Plus, some things I don't care that much about.