Windows 7 will ship without IE in europe

[McMo0^]

So as little as the fact that IE won't be the Browser by default bothers me, how are we going to get on the net to download a new browser such as Firefox or opera without it? Does this mean i'm going to have to guard my firefox install file with my life from now on?

I fail to see how this is important to marketing seeing as no-one will pay for a browser when theres plenty of high quality free ones... unless of course they'll all start charging... oh crap

 

[Nmil-ek]

Meh I keep a backup of all my application installers anyway, not even sure ill bother with windows 7 the advantages seem minimal and it took months just to get vista comfortable and its not like my systems starved of ram.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

So as little as the fact that IE won't be the Browser by default bothers me, how are we going to get on the net to download a new browser such as Firefox or opera without it? Does this mean i'm going to have to guard my firefox install file with my life from now on?

I fail to see how this is important to marketing seeing as no-one will pay for a browser when theres plenty of high quality free ones... unless of course they'll all start charging... oh crap

The reason for that is that the EU thinks Microsoft is being an anti-competitive bully for including their own browser, for free in their own Operating System instead of bundling competitor software with their own. So they fined Microsoft and had them remove IE by default in european editions of windows. Much like they did with XP N-Edition without Windows Media Player.

More reading [http://www.dailytech.com/Windows+7+Will+Ship+Without+Internet+Explorer+in+European+Markets/article15305.htm]

I think you can still buy the regular edition of windows or at least have it shipped from overseas.

actually the American government found them guilty of the exact same thing but once Bush got into power any effective and good punishments were stoppped

as for me, i think i'm going to order the euro edition and have it shipped over here cause i don't want internet explorer at all

 

[Joeshie]

What's really funny is even though Microsoft complied with the EU, the EU is still bitching and whining. All they really want is to slap a big fine on Microsoft.

EU = full of money hungry assholes

 

[jamesworkshop]

win7 does have internet explorer it just doesn't install itself automatically

 

[Pipotchi]

win7 does have internet explorer it just doesn't install itself automatically

This, all the EU wanted is choice and while their methods may be heavy handed now. Microsoft has had this coming for a very long time, Time for American style capitalism to bend over and receive some European style socialism methinks

 

[aww yea]

i always thought it was kind of annoying that IE was my only choice even before i knew about FIREFOX the mighty

i've always liked to have a choice since from when i was a kid

 

[Grayl]

IE sucks.

That is all.

 

[Nmil-ek]

What's really funny is even though Microsoft complied with the EU, the EU is still bitching and whining. All they really want is to slap a big fine on Microsoft.

EU = full of money hungry assholes

We dont like single markets here period no one should have complete dominence over anything, and IE sucks anyway.

 

[sneakypenguin]

I never really understood why the EU would force IE7 to be left out, it's not like IE blocks your from downloading Opera,Chrome,Firefox. Their all free so you don't have to go out and buy extra so really what's the big deal?

 

[dekkarax]

seems a bit silly to me, I feel sorry for the poor souls who have difficulty using computers.

 

[headshotcatcher]

It's so retarded, people who don't want IE will get something else themselves -.-

This is like fining America for not having free choice in default language but being 'forced' to speak English....

 

[vampirekid.13]

So as little as the fact that IE won't be the Browser by default bothers me, how are we going to get on the net to download a new browser such as Firefox or opera without it? Does this mean i'm going to have to guard my firefox install file with my life from now on?

I fail to see how this is important to marketing seeing as no-one will pay for a browser when theres plenty of high quality free ones... unless of course they'll all start charging... oh crap

actually, this development is a very important one in the browser industry, IE was monopolizing internet browsing, which is why europe said it cant be part of the package. This gives new computer users that normally woudlnt DL a browser a reason to go searching, making stuff like firefox, opera, chrome more appealing.

also there are plenty of ways to get a broser, DL from a comp on your portable harddrive (be it a thumbstick, ipod, anything) and transfer it, or do commandline and DL straight to your computer that way.

 

[The_Prophet]

IE sucks.

That is all.

That's an understatement. I won't say what I think about it because the universe would explode from the amount of swear words.

 

[cleverlymadeup]

What's really funny is even though Microsoft complied with the EU, the EU is still bitching and whining. All they really want is to slap a big fine on Microsoft.

EU = full of money hungry assholes

actually the Americans were going to do exactly that, even worse they were considering cutting m$ into 3 different companies, once Bush got into power he neutered any useful punishments that were going to be implimented

you should really go read about the American antitrust trial before you make misinformed comments like that

 

[Joeshie]

What's really funny is even though Microsoft complied with the EU, the EU is still bitching and whining. All they really want is to slap a big fine on Microsoft.

EU = full of money hungry assholes

We dont like single markets here period no one should have complete dominence over anything, and IE sucks anyway.

Microsoft doesn't have complete dominance over the market of web browsers. If they did, Firefox wouldn't be constantly eating up IE's marketshare as it has been for the past few years.

actually the Americans were going to do exactly that, even worse they were considering cutting m$ into 3 different companies, once Bush got into power he neutered any useful punishments that were going to be implimented

you should really go read about the American antitrust trial before you make misinformed comments like that

I have no problems with EU getting pissed at Microsoft bundling IE with Windows. I do have problems when the EU suggests that Microsoft must be forced to include the competition into their OS. It would be like forcing Coca-Cola to put Pepsi ads on their Coke cans.

If anything, it's the EU's suggestion that is anti-competition.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

So as little as the fact that IE won't be the Browser by default bothers me, how are we going to get on the net to download a new browser such as Firefox or opera without it? Does this mean i'm going to have to guard my firefox install file with my life from now on?

I fail to see how this is important to marketing seeing as no-one will pay for a browser when theres plenty of high quality free ones... unless of course they'll all start charging... oh crap

"So Bill Gates, how do I surf the internet with my shiny new copy of Windows 7?"
"Oh, that's easy. Write a letter to the boys at parliament."

Or, you know, use a thumb drive and a friend's computer.

Seriously though. Stupid idea.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

actually the American government found them guilty of the exact same thing but once Bush got into power any effective and good punishments were stoppped

as for me, i think i'm going to order the euro edition and have it shipped over here cause i don't want internet explorer at all

You're free to uninstall it in 7. Or just install Linux.

That new Ubuntu release looks pretty slick. Just saying.

 

[MrSnugglesworth]

win7 does have internet explorer it just doesn't install itself automatically

This, all the EU wanted is choice and while their methods may be heavy handed now. Microsoft has had this coming for a very long time, Time for American style capitalism to bend over and receive some European style socialism methinks

As far as I know, only a few (or less) countries in Europe are socialist. Correct me if I'm wrong.