Windows 8 and gaming

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A3sir

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So short and sweet, we all know what Notch and Gabe, among others, thought of Win8, but has anyone used the retail version and is it as bad as we are to believe? Is it a OS that should have be launched for tablets, not desktops?
 

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Basically, apart from minecraft, it really is no different than Windows 7 for gaming. The only difference is what you click to launch the game, unless you keep your game icons on your desktop.

A3sir said:
Is it a OS that should have be launched for tablets, not desktops?
Windows 8 really is very good for tablets and touch-screen laptops. It has many of the features of windows 7 coupled with many of the features of the average ios/android tablet. Navigation and multitasking is pretty simple.

Having said that, It's terrible with a mouse. Unusable. I've had the preview for many months and I've been forcing myself too use it regularly, and I'm still confused by the interface. It simply does not work with a mouse.
 

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As far i saw on a presentation of windows 8 it isnt that much different from 7 their main difference was adding a additional second desktop with internet integration similar to windows mobile 6.5 .The point for game developers is the signature to run their programs but if win8 is similar to 7 there will be a test mode that will allow users to avoid that signature thingy,if there isnt one and due to internet integration and due to being the most pirated OS windows might fall from the leading operating system
 

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xefaros said:
and due to internet integration and due to being the most pirated OS windows might fall from the leading operating system
That is the most hilarious thing I have ever read. Windows has an estimated marketshare of 70%.

Just because windows 8 came out, doesn't mean it's going to drive everyone away. Most will just stick with 7. Just like when vista came out, we mostly stuck with XP.

OT: Windows 8 is sort of trying to be an OS for everything. It's good on tablets and touch screens, but about as useable with a mouse. However as far as gaming is concerned, really the only change is how you will launch your games. Their integration with the OS is only minimally different. Windows 8 isn't going to change much of anything. Especially if no one is interested in buying it.
 

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It is the same old thing with fluff on top, part of the fluff is the touchscreen interface.
Another is the integrated digital distribution platform that aims to drown out competition leaving MS in charge of everything that passes over Windows just as they are with Xbox, that is the part that gets scary.
 

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A benefit is that it doesn't take up as many system resources as Windows 7 and "should" be able to run games better. Though the difference is probably nominal enough that there would hardly noticeable.
 

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oplinger said:
xefaros said:
and due to internet integration and due to being the most pirated OS windows might fall from the leading operating system
That is the most hilarious thing I have ever read. Windows has an estimated marketshare of 70%.

Just because windows 8 came out, doesn't mean it's going to drive everyone away. Most will just stick with 7. Just like when vista came out, we mostly stuck with XP.
If they want they can stop people pirating their OS.It wont happen overnight but its pretty easy to happen
 

thesilentman

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I saw a Windows 8 laptop with a touchscreen and then it clicked in me what Win8 was for. A computer environment on a tablet. Good for the enterprise sector on streamlining their businesses. Actually a lot more if you take into consideration the Surface Pro, which already has the tech guy in me jumping at the seams...

Gaming? You won't be shafted with 7 until 2020, but if you want DX1211[footnote]DX12 is pretty far off in the future.[/footnote] and less bloat on your system, go for it. Windows 8 isn't bad at all; it's just aimed at the wrong market.

Edited DX12 to DX11 as Microsoft have not announced anything about DX12.
 

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thesilentman said:
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Gaming? You won't be shafted with 7 until 2020, but if you want DX12 and less bloat on your system, go for it. Windows 8 isn't bad at all; it's just aimed at the wrong market.
I don't think we're getting DX12 for a long while. Windows 8 comes with 11.1. We haven't even heard microsoft talking about DX12.
 

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xefaros said:
If they want they can stop people pirating their OS.It wont happen overnight but its pretty easy to happen
Why would they want that? Its better for them to have Windows everywhere even if not trough legit ways then have Windows in some places but all of them legit. The same thing goes with photoshop, the big money maker here are the companies that have to buy the software (the packages that are actually expensive) unless they want to get fined and what better software to get then the one that everyone already knows how to use in their homes?
 

thesilentman

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oplinger said:
thesilentman said:
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Gaming? You won't be shafted with 7 until 2020, but if you want DX12 and less bloat on your system, go for it. Windows 8 isn't bad at all; it's just aimed at the wrong market.
I don't think we're getting DX12 for a long while. Windows 8 comes with 11.1. We haven't even heard microsoft talking about DX12.
I'll fix that. And DX11 isn't really anything to write home about as Vista and 7 have had DX11 already, it just depended on the hardware to utilize it fully. DX: HR ran on my laptop[footnote]Samsung rc512 with a GT 525, if need to know.[/footnote] with no issues while on my (admittingly old) Vista desktop[footnote]Has a AMD HD 5450.[/footnote] had me just install the latest drivers with DX11.
 

Karoshi

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Windows 8 is good for touch-screens and nothing else. Thank God I haven't installed it, since it sounds like living hell to operate with a mouse.

Honestly, steer clear of that monster.
 

MiriaJiyuu

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My favorite thing about Windows 8? There's already programs to make it more like Windows 7, i.e. Stardock has already remade the Windows 7 start menu for Windows 8.

Personally, I'll likely skip Windows 8, I see no reason to upgrade... downgrade?
 

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Karoshi said:
Windows 8 is good for touch-screens and nothing else. Thank God I haven't installed it, since it sounds like living hell to operate with a mouse.

Honestly, steer clear of that monster.
Um no. I put a free copy on my netbook with a 1Gb of ram and it runs much better than Windows 7 pro.

And you should really read about it more or at least try it before absurd comments. The core of Windows 7 is there. The desktop and taskbar, it just replaced the start menu with a start screen. It not that much of a difference if your use to pinning programs to the taskbar. Otherwise you have to launch them from desktop shortcuts or windows explorer.

They cleaned up the background processes. That why my netbook runs Win8 better because it loaded and running on less resources.
 

thesilentman

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ka_saa said:
What I'd like to know...

Did they:
A. Think that the 360 dashboard was so amazing that they had to share that wonder with the PC people?
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B. Mess up the 360 dashboard as testing for Windows 8?
I believe that they tried it after getting some good reviews of Windows Phone 7 and the 360 dashboard. And if you use it on a tablet, Metro's not that bad. The only news MS has given us was that Metro would unify the desktop and mobile computing OS.

And so far, it's working out for the mobile sector, but the desktop sector is getting shafted quite a bit due to that thing called Metro.

Baldr said:
Karoshi said:
Windows 8 is good for touch-screens and nothing else. Thank God I haven't installed it, since it sounds like living hell to operate with a mouse.

Honestly, steer clear of that monster.
Um no. I put a free copy on my netbook with a 1Gb of ram and it runs much better than Windows 7 pro.

And you should really read about it more or at least try it before absurd comments. The core of Windows 7 is there. The desktop and taskbar, it just replaced the start menu with a start screen. It not that much of a difference if your use to pinning programs to the taskbar. Otherwise you have to launch them from desktop shortcuts or windows explorer.

They cleaned up the background processes. That why my netbook runs Win8 better because it loaded and running on less resources.
I've run it in a virtual machine with even less RAM. I have to say that it was surprising to me at how I made it happen as Win8 was quite zippy; not the usual VM slowdowns that I usually get while running them.
 

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So you have to use the new UI features when you run a game? If so that sucks, not that I will be trading in Windows 7 or Android in any time soon but Microsoft might decide to keep it around for future versions.
 

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Karoshi said:
Windows 8 is good for touch-screens and nothing else. Thank God I haven't installed it, since it sounds like living hell to operate with a mouse.

Honestly, steer clear of that monster.
As a man who HAS installed it, it is actually incredibly easy to use with a mouse. I really like Windows 8, it is very fast, fluid, and Metro looks great.

And if you can't figure out how to use a mouse with it, I don't know why you bother with computers.
 
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There's no difference in gaming on Windows 7 compared to Windows 8, so you don't need to worry about that at all.

The new Windows METRO UI is definitely a much better alternative to the start menu, although I have to say, you need to get used to using it, using shortcuts rather than through your mouse, if you dont have a touchscreen.

I've been using Windows 8 for a while now, and I am not going back.