Wolverine 3 poster released, to be called "Logan"

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<spoiler=Click to see poster>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuAiczwUEAAId_W.jpg

Glad to see that X-23 is all but confirmed. Of all the latest mantle-taking, her becoming Wolverine was the most logical and the best written. Having a female Wolverine on the big screen will be interesting to see.
 

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I found the first two solo Wolverine films to be the hardest X-Men films to watch because I don't feel like he alone can sustain a film.

Judging by the suggestion that X-23 might have a role in this - and after a brief Google search on who she is - I guess they found at least something to garner my interest.
 

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Her -becoming- Wolverine is irrelevant because 1, she has to exist first, and isnt she "Wolverine" in Marvel cause they just wanted to kill off Wolverine to spite Fox? I dont think Fox cares to spite Fox.

Edit: I dont have any actual issue with X-23 herself, before anyone assumes I do.
 

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The only problem with The Wolverine was how they completely botched the villain, making Silver Samurai an old guy in a robot instead of the awesome samurai actor.

With that said, if they are continuing from the successes of The Wolverine, then I hope they actually stick to Mr Sinister being Mister Sinister and not some bullshit.

I am not too familiar with X-23's origin, but based on the villain, I am going to guess Sinister steals Logan's genes and implants them into some girl.

I am really surprised they picked Sinister though, I figured he was more of a Cyclops villain. They could have gone with Lady Deathstrike as a continuation of The Wolverine, or a final bloody confrontation with Sabretooth.
 

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The real question is how they'll handle her plot. X 23 has an awesome origin story but that's ALL she has. To this day writers struggle with how to handle her (though she seems to have taken off after taking up wolverine mantle)

Wolverine was good. The x-men movies are good. I really have no worries about this.
Eh, the problem with X-23 will ALWAYS be her origin story. She's a clone of Wolverine, an insanely popular character since about six months after he was given a stable name and place in the MU, so why do they need a clone when they can just use him for much of the same stories? Both have rough childhoods with a shitload of pain and problems almost solely because of their mutations, both have adamantium fused claws, but she's never been particularly feral or berserk outside of a handful of incidents, almost all of them because of her upbringing with the magic spice junk, so she doesn't have the sympathy bit for when she gets back to her mind so much because it's an outside force doing it and not her own mind and/or experiences.

She's not a Martian Manhunter to play budget Superman, as they've shown they have Sabretooth(when they decide to give him some kind of reason to not ruin everyone's day), Deadpoool, Daken, even Blade, have similar archetypes to fill out for stories that involve the X-Men.

Her powers and abilities hold her back from fighting anyone particularly dangerous(she's got the healing factor, but it hasn't been shown to be as..."mastered" as Logan's since he's basically come back from his skeleton alone multiple times stupidly fast and she stays "dead" from a simple shot to the head for quite a while). And her skeleton being base as well means that her ability to fight a vast majority of super-powered beings is nowhere near the same level as so many other Wolverine-like characters simply because her regen, while still exceptional, doesn't net her the same nigh-invulnerability and strength that others have. I mean, even Deathstrike has shown she can go toe-to-toe with Juggernaught, and that's largely a basic milestone for most super-powered beings in Marvel.

Also the Wolverine movies were fun, but I don't think I can in any way call them "good". They have too many "bullshit fill the time slot moments" to be given that designation.
 

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So yeah, she's a non OP wolverine. And considering that every x-men movies has to come up with some bullshit reason why wolverine can't save the day (unless he does. Which is usually), is a good thing when coming up with a story conflict. She's wolverine before he became marvels Mary sue batman character.

I still get why she exists though. X men books are popular, x men books with teenagers work well. And as many books as wolverine can be in simultaneously (wasn't he in like 5 books at once at some point?) He can't be a teenager.

And yeah, I'd say fun movies are good. Which is why I said good and not "great".
More like she's an underpowered Daken in ways, and he's honestly on the weaker end of the spectrum since his healing factor has a shitload of counters that are relatively common in the MU these days. Who knows, he might not even have it anymore effectively.

Also, you could've just led with liking a "non-OP" Wolverine without all the talk about writers not knowing what to do with her despite the character deserving it dude. My problem with her is that she's a redundancy of a redundancy of a redundancy and there's no new real spin on her archetype that hasn't been done with other characters with a longer history than hers.
 

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Honestly, I am not that excited. I don't know what it is, but the X-Men movies don't seem to do much for me anymore.
 

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That's a really damn good poster.

The size of the hand makes me think they're going with a child-aged X-23, and not the teenage streetwalker/assassin she is in the comics. Which is probably covering their ass in case they need to recast her if this movie tanks. The "badass + child" combo team is becoming really popular lately. I think it has something to do with all the nerds growing up and starting families.

One of the problems I've been having with the X-Men franchise at the moment is that, other than Wolverine, many of its major players are now time-locked into the 80s-90s. If they want to keep doing X-Men movies into, say, the 2020s, they'll either need to go with a new contemporary cast or keep doing "prequel" movies.

And I'm not sure how many more prequel movies they can do before they start to run into continuity snarls. It's already pretty messed up, with the time travel and the characters coming back from the dead...I mean, they never even bothered to explain how Xavier came back to life after X-Men 3 in order to appear in Days of Future Past.

Maybe they could do a New X-Men movie, and it'd have...Iceman and Colossus as team dads, with Quentin Quire as the bad guy and Deadpool, Cable, X-23 and Negasonic Teenage Warhead filling out the team. And Cyclops is headmaster now.

Not Xorn, though. Xorn was a fucking awful character.
 

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bastardofmelbourne said:
That's a really damn good poster.

The size of the hand makes me think they're going with a child-aged X-23, and not the teenage streetwalker/assassin she is in the comics. Which is probably covering their ass in case they need to recast her if this movie tanks. The "badass + child" combo team is becoming really popular lately. I think it has something to do with all the nerds growing up and starting families.
<spoiler= Click to see supposed X-23 in Wolverine 3 set pictures>http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/jackman-more2/hugh-jackman-films-more-wolverine-3-scenes-with-young-co-star-01.jpg

The pic is pretty old, but I think the poster confirms 100% that X-23 or some incarnation of her will be in the movie.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
Bob_McMillan said:
bastardofmelbourne said:
That's a really damn good poster.

The size of the hand makes me think they're going with a child-aged X-23, and not the teenage streetwalker/assassin she is in the comics. Which is probably covering their ass in case they need to recast her if this movie tanks. The "badass + child" combo team is becoming really popular lately. I think it has something to do with all the nerds growing up and starting families.
<spoiler= Click to see supposed X-23 in Wolverine 3 set pictures>http://cdn02.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/jackman-more2/hugh-jackman-films-more-wolverine-3-scenes-with-young-co-star-01.jpg

The pic is pretty old, but I think the poster confirms 100% that X-23 or some incarnation of her will be in the movie.
That girl is adorable and now I'm excited to see her cut a dude in half
Considering she had a bloodstain on her, I really wonder at the lengths the director is willing to go to show off her regenerative abilities.
 

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The real question is how they'll handle her plot. X 23 has an awesome origin story but that's ALL she has. To this day writers struggle with how to handle her (though she seems to have taken off after taking up wolverine mantle)
Honestly the real problem with the way x 23 was written in the comic books is that if your name wasn't Chris Yost or Craig Kyle you ignored all her character development and hit the "I am only a Weapon" reset button and started from scratch.

The closest someone besides her creators ever got to progressing her forward was Marjorie Lui in her X23 series co-staring Gambit and Jubilee.. Laura grew past her fears that she was only a weapon and not a real person.

Then She showed up in Avengers Academy and BOOP reset button... She's back to lamenting that she's only a Weapon and not a person.

The real problem seems to be that writers focused too much on her origin rather than where she's actually grown from beyond that
 

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Neat. I can't wait for the next X-Men group movie called "Charles' Team of Mutants" but honestly I'm more of a DC guy so I'm more excited for "Diana" and "Bruce" and "Clark 2."