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I am experiancing the new content now and...lets just say I have a LOT on my plate for both Horde and Alliance content.

What is in Battle for Azeroth? Well let this explain:

 

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WoW is still a thing? Huh. I mean yeah there must be a bunch of guilds that still do their thing, but I figured Blizzard had just let it play out until the servers die out, content with Overwatch. Never thought they'd actually add something else, especially after admitting the expansions ruined the game with Vanilla WOW being an actual thing.
 

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Silentpony said:
WoW is still a thing?
So is Warhammer 40k in Tabletop and Magic the Gathering and Dungeons and Dragons :p

WOW has fully established itself that it can survive VERY long term. And no proposed WOW killers has damaged it.

Hearthstone didn't kill it, Overwatch didn't kill it. It still has millions of subs, at it lowest 5 million subs is something MMOs in the early 2000s dreamed of having.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
So is Warhammer 40k in Tabletop
But not Fantasy. :(
Samtemdo8 said:
Hearthstone didn't kill it, Overwatch didn't kill it.
How the heck would Hearthstone and Overwatch kill WoW? They don't even exist in the same genre.
 

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Silentpony said:
WoW is still a thing? Huh. I mean yeah there must be a bunch of guilds that still do their thing, but I figured Blizzard had just let it play out until the servers die out, content with Overwatch. Never thought they'd actually add something else, especially after admitting the expansions ruined the game with Vanilla WOW being an actual thing.
No other MMO have been able to put a dent in WoW, it's still by far the most popular MMO out there and it still pulls in big money since it still has millions of subscribers.

OT: I'm enjoying it at the moment, I'm very curious where the alliance vs horde is heading.
 

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Hawki said:
Samtemdo8 said:
So is Warhammer 40k in Tabletop
But not Fantasy. :(
Samtemdo8 said:
Hearthstone didn't kill it, Overwatch didn't kill it.
How the heck would Hearthstone and Overwatch kill WoW? They don't even exist in the same genre.
People like Danger Dolan at the time of WOD said Blizzard doesn't care about WOW anymore and would rather just make more Hearthstone expansions because its easier. And people like Sabrespark made videos like this:


"GET OVERWATCH!!!"
 

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i started the expansion after being gone from the game for quite a few months. I was very off and on throughout Legion, but I typically always come back to at least try a new expansion.

BFA doesn't start off very well though. Forcing you through not one but TWO extremely boring scenarios before dumping you into the new zones with what has now become arbitrary "home base" complete with war table which I will assume have follow missions and shit on it later.

Otherwise questing is quest. However yet again, I don't understand why Blizzard keeps insisting on squishing the fucking stats all the time. Like why is WoW so allergic to big numbers? I don't understand it. The overall squish has made leveling a new character absolutely disgustingly slow and stupid which just goes to show you how well the idea was thought out in the first fucking place. We lost our artifact weapons for literally no reason (fuck the lore it doesn't make sense anyway) and lost a lot of the coolness that they had during Legion. My frost DK hits like a wimp now, and it just doesn't feel good.

The thing about expansions is, players like me like to feel more powerful as they go through. I mean it has been years, since I beat the Lich King and I'm weaker now than I was back then. It doesn't make sense. I've taken down a city-sized dragon, and I'm weaker now than I was then! You are supposed to grow and expand with an EXPANSION, not fucking revert back to stupid shit.

BFA feels like the game has reset all the way back to us fighting the horde or alliance. When we've spent the last decade fighting Legions of invading demons, a ruler of the undead, the corrupted dragon that literally broke the fucking planet, pandas....err okay forget the pandas, then we fought the demon legion as they invaded our world stronger than ever. Also we went back in time for some reason but we don't talk about that.

I've started the troll area, and it's unbelievably mundane fucking questing. Stop Child thieves, beat up trolls we don't like for the trolls we do like, get the blessing of the troll gods, blah blah blah. This isn't like building up your army to fight the legion, or mustering outposts as you slowly try to reclaim northrend from the undead overlord. This is like being level 1 again and just helping fight bandits and collecting bear asses. Top that off with the stats being stupidly low again, it's like we've reverted back to vanilla.

It does NOT feel good.

The Azerite idea seems like it has possibilities though, but I wish there was a way to monitor how close I am to the next upgrade. I couldn't find out where it would be though. Does every piece of gear level with the same azerite bar? Or does it only apply to items equipped, it's not covered very well. But that might come into play more later as gear becomes a thing.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
"GET OVERWATCH!!!"
I would, but my computer can't run it, and there's little reason to play it on console. :(

Then again, I've played Paladins and didn't like it all that much, so maybe hero shooters aren't my thing.
 

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One positive direction it seems to be taking the story in is that it's returning the horde to the villains they originally were.

First two games they were flat out evil and while I do like Thrall, he is basically the Obama of the orcish people.
 

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jademunky said:
One positive direction it seems to be taking the story in is that it's returning the horde to the villains they originally were.

First two games they were flat out evil and while I do like Thrall, he is basically the Obama of the orcish people.
I'm not sure how that's a positive. Warcraft has no shortage of evil factions (Burning Legion, Scourge, Old Gods, etc.), the Horde doesn't need to regress to that point.

Also, it isn't really the Horde being evil, they just have a warmongering leader (again).
 

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personally, I feel like WoW almost became a "joke", I have been playing 2-3 month every expansion and the game is getting less and less interesting, added a lot of F2P model such as high time gated content in a paid to play game, gold inflation made gold value a joke, nothing to really buy with it outside of customization and such, highly repetitive grind just to get access to some stuff, no real fun, no real value.
Now with the everything level with you, its makes leveling even less interesting, there no feeling of progression anymore, you get stronger but so is the monster, reward on low-level quests is laughable.
if im paying per month I should not have time gated content or grind that 1% just to get cosmetics mounts, give me actual things to do.
I'm going to pass on BfA, no way I'm spending 30 hours just to get exalted to have the access to the new races, again time-gated with world quests and such...
let not talk about how trivial most of the game is now (questing and leveling)
Sadly WoW is a great game but with some weird flaws
 

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jademunky said:
One positive direction it seems to be taking the story in is that it's returning the horde to the villains they originally were.

First two games they were flat out evil and while I do like Thrall, he is basically the Obama of the orcish people.
I don't know, I think the Horde were much more interesting when they weren't just flat out evil.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
trunkage said:
I'll just sit here playing ESO
I do want to try that out to see Vvardenfell and Sumerset Isles.
If you do, there is also a smaller DLC called Clockwork City that has a lot of players from both Summerset and Morrowind that you might want to get too