WTF the goverment gave money to these people?

[Mcupobob]

So I found out not too long ago that the small store in a small town in the center of californa my somewhat home town as gotten a 1 million dollar loan form the stimlis package, its been a atleast 4 months since and they have have hired no one and prices have jumped the store still looks inter city looking I don't know the owners of the store but I've never heard anyone say any thing good about them.

So escapist was this a good move for the Amercain goverment?





Note- sorry about any spelling mistakes on my part.


After note edit: Its a famliy store as about 5 or 7 people working there I don't visit that often but I usally only see like 2 stockes and cashiers the maximum amount of employes can't be more than 10.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[Mr Wednesday]

I'm not really sure this was an executive decision made by the "American government" as a whole.

I imagine it was a decision made by a small, local branch of it.
Also, really? Really really? Or is this yet another media myth.

 

[Sewblon]

I hate to say I told you so... but that's a bold-faced lie. I love gloating on the internet when it turns out I was right about politics, so suck it people who thought the stimulus package would make things better!

 

[Rednog]

Wow.

In moments like these, I'm proud not to be an American

Why is it that every other thread there is something like this post? If you don't like America great, good for you. I'm sure your country is perfect and stupid shit doesn't happen at all. Completely write off every American for "moments like these."

 

[Aphroditty]

Wow.

In moments like these, I'm proud not to be an American

Don't worry, in every moment which isn't one of these, we're proud you aren't too.

Anyway, linky on the story, hm? Not calling BS, because it seems very reasonable to expect this kind of behavior from a bureaucracy, but I'd just to know. Obviously if it did happen then boo. But what else do you expect? The point of a bureaucracy isn't really to get things done, it's to make sure that things are done in a highly specific way, regardless of whether or not we really want to be doing it.

 

[Ultra_Caboose]

Wow.

In moments like these, I'm proud not to be an American

Wish I could say that. They keep extending terms on unemployment, handing out money like it's a handful of leaves. From what I've been able to tell, the government is grossly overspending so they can completely collapse our economy.

Sorry, didn't mean to fly off on a political tangent... I find it rediculous that the government hands out money so easily. Too many people are taking advantage of it without giving anything back in return.

 

[Pielikey]

HOLY RUN ON SENTENCE, BATMAN! Use a bit more punctuation next time.

Anyway I don't think this was a whole American Government decision. It was probably by the Town Mayor or representative(s).

 

[Mr Wednesday]

I hate to say I told you so... but that's a bold-faced lie. I love gloating on the internet when it turns out I was right about politics, so suck it people who thought the stimulus package would make things better!

I'm not entirely sure this one event condemns the entire package.
Best hold off the gloating for a while.

 

[Mcupobob]

I'm not really sure this was an executive decision made by the "American government" as a whole.

I imagine it was a decision made by a small, local branch of it.
Also, really? Really really? Or is this yet another media myth.

Wow.

In moments like these, I'm proud not to be an American

Don't worry, in every moment which isn't one of these, we're proud you aren't too.

Anyway, linky on the story, hm? Not calling BS, because it seems very reasonable to expect this kind of behavior from a bureaucracy, but I'd just to know. Obviously if it did happen then boo. But what else do you expect? The point of a bureaucracy isn't really to get things done, it's to make sure that things are done in a highly specific way, regardless of whether or not we really want to be doing it.

no linky it was in are local paper.

 

[Aphroditty]

no linky it was in are local paper.

Doesn't your local paper have a website? Most do nowadays.

 

[Simalacrum]

To be fair on the American Government, they got a big fright when the Leman Brothers went brankrupt - they didn't want it to happen again, and have thus been pumping useless stimuli into all sorts of places which do absolutely nothing.

Its just a jerk reaction from a single bad event, thats all.

 

[Doug]

I'm not really sure this was an executive decision made by the "American government" as a whole.

I imagine it was a decision made by a small, local branch of it.
Also, really? Really really? Or is this yet another media myth.

Hush, I like the idea of the entire American government sitting in a somewhat darkened room, porte in one hand each, finest cuban cigar in the other, discussing how to waste American tax payer's money best, and deciding that this one store was, ultimately, a good choice for there evil and byzantine schemes....

Sadly, we don't live in a world where untold thousands of people can sit around a single conference table, and I'm pretty sure all those cases of porte and cuba's finest would be noticed.

 

[TheNamlessGuy]

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[Doug]

So I found out not too long ago that the small store in a small town in the center of californa my somewhat home town as gotten a 1 million dollar loan form the stimlis package, its been a atleast 4 months since and they have have hired no one and prices have jumped the store still looks inter city looking I don't know the owners of the store but I've never heard anyone say any thing good about them.

So escapist was this a good move for the Amercain goverment?





Note- sorry about any spelling mistakes on my part.

Well, how many people are employed by the store as is? And how many people are employed by the suppliers of the store, the warehouses, etc, etc. The ultimate question is how many job loses where prevented, not necessarily how many new jobs where made. As for the price increase, it sounds like the store is having problems and are trying to make themselves finanicially stable. Its like with the US car industry - as it stands, its not economically viable....

Strangely, when it was the computer industry that had a meltdown, no-one wanted to help. This is possibly why Windows is the most used O/S across the whole planet today. Possibly.

 

[Ultra_Caboose]

You do realize the reason they do this is so that the unemployed can continue to live a comfortable life while the look for another job, as no one wants to hire someone who looks like a bum. Through unemployment cheques, the unemployed can continue to buy stuff, think of it as giving a corporation money, indirectly, only this way you help the consumers too. In the end, there are some people who will always be unemployed and will always abuse this, but because of the recent loss of many job opportunities due to the recession, it is necessary to expand these sorts of programs.

I understand that it's a safety net for the unemployed, but like I said, people take advantage of it. Now that people can be on unemployment for over a year, there's little incentive to find a job, especially since unemployment checks come very close, and sometimes exceed what they earned on their actual job. My friend took advantage of it afer he left the marines, making enough money to live just as well as he did with his job before enlisting, and took about 8 months to even bother trying to find a job.

People who absolutely need the money to support themselves are welcome to it, but there has to be a limit. Expansion of the program will just entice more people to abuse it instead of taking the effort necessary to find a job, not to mention increase the taxes on those of us who actually work. The government has no need to provide citizens with free money for not working. It's the same as socialism, and I don't work as hard as I do to have my money siphoned and have it given to social parasites who abuse the unemployment system.

 

[dududf]

*Immitates Heavy Weapons Guy's Voice*

"Not Big Surprise."

 

[Mcupobob]

no linky it was in are local paper.

Doesn't your local paper have a website? Most do nowadays.

Sorry I could not find any link I scorerd the internt for a good while but To be honest I'm following the rumor mill on this a little but I remeber seeing it in are local paper and Now i'm about to reveal how rual I am the local avon lady also told us this too and she is usallly not wrong.

 

[Ultra_Caboose]

I said it too, and made note of the fact that allowing people to take advantage of it is a necessary evil. Unfortunately, it would cost too much time and money to micromanage every unemployed person, so the government has to weigh the unemployment rate against the fact that people will abuse more slacked terms. In the current economic conditions, I would agree with making it easier to live off of unemployment insurance, however we as the people need to be sure to pressure the unemployed into seeking jobs, as ultimately they are spending our money.

I'm not in support of it at all except for the most desperate. Granted, that's kind of hypocritical, but unemployment needs to be a very short-term buffer to keep people going between jobs. Many americans seem to have a sense of entitlement, and that can act like a cancer upon the system. Just the thought of having to ignore the people who abuse the system while expanding it is a recipe for economic disaster. The majority of people won't act until tey get a swift kick in in the ass, and if the thought of being out on the streets without a penny to support their loved oneswill motivate them, then that is what we need. I understand that employment rates are incredibly low, but these people can't just pull cash out of my, and your wallet until they feel like getting a few applications.
The way our system works is simple. Hard work and initiative pay off with money and success. Free government money just grinds that to a halt, and gives people even less of an incentive to do anything. So, like I said, reserve it for only the most destitute of people, and even then, it must be a very short-term solution. Otherwise it will just feed laziness and irresponsibility.