xBone Call of Duty: Ghosts running at 720p? (RUMOUR)

[Phrozenflame500]

<a href=http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=702055>So, a new rumour has surfaced on NeoGaf that CoD:Ghosts will only run on 720p on the xBox One while running at 1080p on the PS4.
It started when a known insider claimed that he had big news, but wanted to find a second source for it. Another poster claimed that the new Call of Duty was going to run at 720p and a mod PMed them both to check sources. The mod, as well as some trusted members chimed in with confirmations.

At the moment we don't know much and there have been no actual sources cited aside from claims that they are employees or otherwise insiders. This is still a rumour. That being said, what would this mean for the xBonevsPS4 war? If the PS4 turns out to be more powerful then the xBone while still being 100$ less it can dominate pretty hard in this generation.

We'll probably be hearing more about this, either a source or a official refute. Stay posted.

Edit: Some people are claiming that the XOS is having problems with the engine rather then any actual power difference. Still nothing official.

 

[Phoenixmgs_v1legacy]

If the PS4 turns out to be more powerful then the xBone while still being 100$ less it can dominate pretty hard in this generation.

Hasn't it already been confirmed that PS4 is more powerful than the xBone? Not that I really care as both will be similar in graphical ability like this gen or last gen, it's all about the games and Sony just makes more games than Microsoft. The only time hardware really matters (for the consumer) is in the case of the PS3/360 to Wii or PS4/xBone to Wii U where Nintendo's hardware is a generation behind thus making it so you can't just port the game over to the Wii and thus the Wii gets barely any 3rd party support, which results in the consumer not having access to most of the best games if they buy the Wii.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Ouch, don't they both share PC architecture?

As for it being an issue with the Xbone's OS I can't say I'm surprised. Windows 8 has failed on multiple levels, what's one more to the pile?

 

[Saltyk]

I hate Xbox One as much as any sane person should (I refuse to forgive the DRM bullshit and the outright contempt they displayed for their consumers and still seem to display to a lesser extent to this day), but I'm not gonna jump on this being a fact. Even if it were, I don't think there will be big enough differences to really matter in the long run.

It's a little late to really make a difference in the preorders and such I think. Most people who want one already have them on preorder, I'm sure. And I doubt you could convince anyone to cancel a Xbox One preorder at this stage. It could have an effect in the long run, but that assumes this is true. And unsubstantiated rumors, I generally assume to be untrue until I see something that supports the claim.

 

[RicoADF]

Ouch, don't they both share PC architecture?

As for it being an issue with the Xbone's OS I can't say I'm surprised. Windows 8 has failed on multiple levels, what's one more to the pile?

PS4 has DDR5 ram which runs at a faster speed, as well as a faster controller for the RAM (basically data can be shunted through quicker). Also Xbox One has upto 3GB of it's ram dedicated to the improved Kinnect (or so rumors say).

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

What did people expect? You know that RAM thing? It's not just system RAM in a console. The Xbone is still using DDR3 RAM as video memory! That's extremely old technology.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I don't understand why people think graphics and power of a console are the most important things, or even that important at all.
Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons. If the online is better on the Xbone than on the PS4 like it was this gen then I will probably go for the Xbone.

Software is infinitely more important than hardware, within reason.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I don't understand why people think graphics and power of a console are the most important things, or even that important at all.
Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons. If the online is better on the Xbone than on the PS4 like it was this gen then I will probably go for the Xbone.

Software is infinitely more important than hardware, within reason.

Better hardware can be used to make better software. More power can be used to provide a better online experience. Lesser hardware will have to make more sacrifices than better hardware. That's why people care. It's not all about the graphics.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

I don't understand why people think graphics and power of a console are the most important things, or even that important at all.
Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons. If the online is better on the Xbone than on the PS4 like it was this gen then I will probably go for the Xbone.

Software is infinitely more important than hardware, within reason.

Better hardware can be used to make better software. More power can be used to provide a better online experience. Lesser hardware will have to make more sacrifices than better hardware. That's why people care. It's not all about the graphics.

The ps3 supposedly had better power than the Xbox 360, it failed to deliver a better online though. And of course it will have to make more sacrifices, but I'd prefer to actually have good software over having the potential to have good software.
The current gen's hardware is plenty good, they should focus on actually using the hardware well rather than making more.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

The ps3 supposedly had better power than the Xbox 360, it failed to deliver a better online though. And of course it will have to make more sacrifices, but I'd prefer to actually have good software over having the potential to have good software.
The current gen's hardware is plenty good, they should focus on actually using the hardware well rather than making more.

The PS3 had that ridiculous Cell processor. And the difference between the PS3 and Xbox 360 wasn't that big. The difference between the PS4 and the Xbone is pretty big.

 

[x EvilErmine x]

I don't understand why people think graphics and power of a console are the most important things, or even that important at all.
Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons. If the online is better on the Xbone than on the PS4 like it was this gen then I will probably go for the Xbone.

Software is infinitely more important than hardware, within reason.

Better hardware can be used to make better software. More power can be used to provide a better online experience. Lesser hardware will have to make more sacrifices than better hardware. That's why people care. It's not all about the graphics.

The ps3 supposedly had better power than the Xbox 360, it failed to deliver a better online though. And of course it will have to make more sacrifices, but I'd prefer to actually have good software over having the potential to have good software.
The current gen's hardware is plenty good, they should focus on actually using the hardware well rather than making more.

PS3 does have more hardware horsepower than the Xbox 360 but the problem is the CELL processor, it takes a ridiculous amount of time to optimize a game for the CELL if that game has been designed with a more typical PC like architecture in mind. So what usually happens is the dev's just do enough to make the game comparable to the other platforms and don't really push the hardware as far as it can go.

The problem with the current gen isn't really with the processors or GPU's as dev's have had enough time the really learn how to make the most of the power they have by now, but rather they all suffer from a shortage of RAM.

An increase in the amount of RAM and the quality of it will allow dev's to be far more creative with things like level design and AI, so it's not just about making things look ultra shinny but more about evolving what we can do with games

 

[JazzJack2]

Next gen huh....

Why in recent years has advancement in gaming slowed to a snails pace or even reverted and gotten worse?

 

[OneCatch]

Ouch, don't they both share PC architecture?

PS4 has DDR5 ram which runs at a faster speed, as well as a faster controller for the RAM (basically data can be shunted through quicker). Also Xbox One has upto 3GB of it's ram dedicated to the improved Kinnect (or so rumors say).

Jesus, really? That seems really heavy - how can it justify needing 3GB? And that would leave the console with 5gb for actual gaming..
Well.... *insert unbearably smug comment about PC here*.

Seriously though, what the hell are Microsoft thinking? I really like the 360, but with the One it's like they're actually trying to lose customers.

 

[fix-the-spade]

Ouch, don't they both share PC architecture?

Yes, but.

The Xbone uses a slower GPU and RAM, exactly how much slower the GPU is Microsoft refuse to confirm, but when all they'll say is that it's got '853mhz and 5billion transistors' that's not an overly good sign.

More importantly, the Xbone uses normal DDR3 RAM with a 32MB esRAM chip on the processor itself, which gives it a maximum bandwidth of 68.3 GB/s. By comparison the PS4 is using GDDR5 (which is broadly DDR3 but with a much higher writes per clock cycle to handle graphics processing better) with a maximum bandwidth of 176 GB/s, when it comes to handling large texture files and high screen resolutions, that will make a difference.

Also, the Xbone reserves 3GB for system use, so 5GB is available to games, we don't yet know how much the PS4 wants, but if it's equal or less space then the performance gap will widen over time as games become more demanding and screen resolutions go up (these consoles will probably be seeing 4k screens by the end of their life cycle).

TL,DR: Microsoft are using normal PC RAM whist Sony are using more expensive parts made specifically for graphics.

 

[GoaThief]

Most people that shallow choose PC

What? Shallow? I guess all those Nintendo fans who said graphics aren't important are not lapping up HD versions of dusty games... Oh wait, they are.

Specs are important for many reasons, true graphics aren't the be and end all but they do play an important part. MS' flagship third party title running worse than it's rivals counterport for the first time in history is very big.

 

[EternallyBored]

I don't understand why people think graphics and power of a console are the most important things, or even that important at all.
Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons. If the online is better on the Xbone than on the PS4 like it was this gen then I will probably go for the Xbone.

Software is infinitely more important than hardware, within reason.

Better hardware can be used to make better software. More power can be used to provide a better online experience. Lesser hardware will have to make more sacrifices than better hardware. That's why people care. It's not all about the graphics.

The ps3 supposedly had better power than the Xbox 360, it failed to deliver a better online though. And of course it will have to make more sacrifices, but I'd prefer to actually have good software over having the potential to have good software.
The current gen's hardware is plenty good, they should focus on actually using the hardware well rather than making more.

Hardware is about more than just higher polygon counts and better textures and lighting, it can also be used to improve AI, terrain draw distances, number of enemies that can be put on screen, number of players that can exist in multiplayer, used to reduce texture and asset pop in, larger worlds with no load time, faster streaming of processes allowing more things to move in more complex ways, and better and faster physics calculations allowing for things to move and react in more complex or interesting ways.

You can say the current hardware is good all you want, but I want to see the interesting ways an increase can change games, GTA V was a beautiful game, but the hardware of this gen is obviously being pushed to its limit to handle the game. With better hardware, even if they don't improve the graphics in anyway, they could do things like, have more pedestrians and cars on the screen at the same time, give pedestrians more complex behaviors in larger groups, increase the online mode and how many players can sit in the lobby, make jets and airplanes fly faster since there is less load streaming the entire map, and so on and so forth.

Graphics aren't the end all be all, and I still enjoy sprite based and other games on my mobile and 3DS, but I want to see what devs do with greater capacity, many of the games on this gen just wouldn't have been possible last gen without the increase to memory, speed, and processing power that the hardware brought us.

 

[Something Amyss]

Most people that shallow choose PC, and the consoles are divided for different reasons.

Console fanboys fighting over graphics isn't going away any time soon, so it's hardly a case of people that shallow (even just "most" of them) going PC. there are different reasons, but not all reasons are different.

Besides, we're talking about the same game on two sets of hardware. That sort of does make a difference.

 

[Tom_green_day]

I can't tell the difference between 1080p and like 10p so this doesn't really mean anything to me. Why should it make a difference at all? It's not like the game is hugely altered so that it's unplayable on the Xbox One.

 

[llamastorm.games]

I personally don't get why games suddenly have to be 1080p/60fps

Except PC gaming enthusiasts (even most pc gamers are still only running average setups) most people have not gamed at that yet consistently and we've all managed absolutely fine for years, consoles only started doing any form of HD 5 years ago. Making it so a game can run at 1080p in 60fps will make absolutely squat in the way of difference to the end product over using a resolution of 1680x1050/1600x900 or something similar. I'd rather all the technological advancement went on creating better worlds, I don't need better graphics in GTA V or Skyrim but I'd welcome larger worlds with more detail and better AI.

 

[Tony2077]

i don't really see what the big deal is considering unless you enjoy the game graphics/fps mean nothing and if that is the reason you hate a game then there is a problem and its not with the game