Young Justice Season THREE! The Outsiders!!

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As of writing this Thread, this is the current information we have [https://screenrant.com/young-justice-outsiders-dc-universe-release-date/].

So, I'm really super excited. This is one my my favorite cartoons... no, that doesn't do it justice (I'm aware of the pun). This is one of my favorite media events of all time. Full stop. I love it. Season 1 was great. Season 2 pushed everything to Eleven, and I was on the edge of my seat. I don't get on the edge of my seat any more, and this thing had my heart racing.

As of now, the only way you're going to be able to see it is through DC's new streaming service, which I will get just for this show. I do hope they release dvds in the future.

However, it all can't be perfect.

The core team (as of writing this) is as follows:
-Wonder Girl [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/wonder-girl/4005-10885/]
-Static [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/static/4005-26578/]
-(The Third) Robin [http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Tim_Drake]
-The Spoiler [http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Stephanie_Brown]
-13 [https://comicvine.gamespot.com/traci-13/4005-46538/]
-Impulse (taking over the mantle of Kid Flash) [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Impulse]
-Arrowette [http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Suzanne_King-Jones_(New_Earth)]
-Blue Beetle [http://youngjustice.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_Beetle]

We have one member from the Wonder Woman family, One for the Flash family, TWO from the Bat family... and none from the Super family? Really? Stuff like this ticks me off about Batman more.
 
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Wait, they're not including Superboy? He was a pretty major character from the last couple of seasons. I guess if they feel they've taken his story as far as they can, then fine, I'd rather that than force him. I'm just glad they still have Blue Beetle and Impulse, I liked how they bounced off each other
 
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There's no chance in hell Connor wont show up at some point. And there's always the possibility of Supergirl joining the team down the line. Jonathan Kent may show up, too. I don't think we ever got anything concrete about Clark and Lois, so it's certainly a possibility. In teams like these we always need at least one representative from each of the Trinity. I know Batman always gets way more representation than the others, but his branch of the trinity is more popular than the others. And I'd love to have Orphan aka Cassandra Cain show up.

Spoiler's inclusion does mean bad news for Tim and Cassie's relationship, so I'm looking forward seeing how that plays out. I'm happy to see Blue Beetle return and here's hoping he and Traci 13 hit it off Just learned she's gay now. Oh, well. I'm ecstatic that my boy Static is back at it! I've been looking forward to season 3 just for his return as a hero.
 

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Captain Marvelous said:
There's no chance in hell Connor wont show up at some point. And there's always the possibility of Supergirl joining the team down the line. Jonathan Kent may show up, too. I don't think we ever got anything concrete about Clark and Lois, so it's certainly a possibility. In teams like these we always need at least one representative from each of the Trinity. I know Batman always gets way more representation than the others, but his branch of the trinity is more popular than the others. And I'd love to have Orphan aka Cassandra Cain show up.

Spoiler's inclusion does mean bad news for Tim and Cassie's relationship, so I'm looking forward seeing how that plays out. I'm happy to see Blue Beetle return and here's hoping he and Traci 13 hit it off Just learned she's gay now. Oh, well. I'm ecstatic that my boy Static is back at it! I've been looking forward to season 3 just for
his return as a hero.
Is Traci gay? i thought she was meant to be bisexual.
 
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Captain Marvelous said:
There's no chance in hell Connor wont show up at some point. And there's always the possibility of Supergirl joining the team down the line. Jonathan Kent may show up, too. I don't think we ever got anything concrete about Clark and Lois, so it's certainly a possibility. In teams like these we always need at least one representative from each of the Trinity. I know Batman always gets way more representation than the others, but his branch of the trinity is more popular than the others. And I'd love to have Orphan aka Cassandra Cain show up.

Spoiler's inclusion does mean bad news for Tim and Cassie's relationship, so I'm looking forward seeing how that plays out. I'm happy to see Blue Beetle return and here's hoping he and Traci 13 hit it off Just learned she's gay now. Oh, well. I'm ecstatic that my boy Static is back at it! I've been looking forward to season 3 just for
his return as a hero.
Is Traci gay? i thought she was meant to be bisexual.
The article I read specifically said she's gay. It is possible that she's bi, but the article simplified it to lesbian because of the relationship she's currently in. I don't quite remember what her orientation was before. The only relationship I saw her in was with Jaime Reyes in Blue Beetle, pre-New 52, and that's been retconned. The only thing I know about her rebirth reintroduction is that she's in a relationship with another girl who's name escapes me. If she does turn out to be bi that does put a relationship with Jaime back on the table, which I'm all for even if it doesn't work out and they break up.
 
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Palindromemordnilap said:
Wait, they're not including Superboy? He was a pretty major character from the last couple of seasons. I guess if they feel they've taken his story as far as they can, then fine, I'd rather that than force him. I'm just glad they still have Blue Beetle and Impulse, I liked how they bounced off each other
The more I'm thinking about it, it kind of makes sense that Connor isn't there. Out of everyone, he embodied the "I don't know who I am" aspect of growing into a teenager. He was more well adjusted in season 3. He always could have been the character to take the wild ones under his wing...

No. Fuck. Connor should really be in it. That's a PERFECT message to give.

Captain Marvelous said:
There's no chance in hell Connor wont show up at some point. And there's always the possibility of Supergirl joining the team down the line. Jonathan Kent may show up, too. I don't think we ever got anything concrete about Clark and Lois, so it's certainly a possibility. In teams like these we always need at least one representative from each of the Trinity. I know Batman always gets way more representation than the others, but his branch of the trinity is more popular than the others. And I'd love to have Orphan aka Cassandra Cain show up.

Spoiler's inclusion does mean bad news for Tim and Cassie's relationship, so I'm looking forward seeing how that plays out. I'm happy to see Blue Beetle return and here's hoping he and Traci 13 hit it off Just learned she's gay now. Oh, well. I'm ecstatic that my boy Static is back at it! I've been looking forward to season 3 just for his return as a hero.
I get that Batman's more popular. I'm fine with the people I like not being popular. Fuck, I still say Monday Night Combat was one of the best games ever made, and I love Mickey Cantor.

The problem is that I hate the stupidity attached to Batman being more popular.

The "He's a normal guy so I can relate to him more so he should be able to beat literal Gods" aspect is mind bending in its ignorance. "I Hate Superman because he's dumbly powerful" is usually uttered in the same paragraph which they will state "No one should be able to beat Batman because he's really powerful and the best hero of all time" without not a hint of irony. The fanboner that made Batman into a 'Nice Normal Unbeatable Human God That Can Never Lose But We All Can Relate To' breaks everything that he's in for me.

You know, I'm torn with Static. I am glad that he joined up. But something about the unsanctioned "We were created by the bad guys but now we rebelled and doing things our own way" team in Season 2 was great. They all had real chemistry.
 

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As long as Red Hood shows up, allz is good.

Regarding Connor, I think he and a few others of the OG team are some sort of covert ops (well, even more covert I guess) team. I'll try to find the pics I saw.

EDIT:

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/More-Young-Justice-Outsiders.jpg

Could just be fan art, especially since they've shown us Nightwing is still in his regular costume.

EDIT EDIT:

http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/2018/06/young-justice-season-3-release-date-news-cast-outsiders-dc-universe.jpg?itok=pXHUQ2x3

Well that's Conner right there. I'm hoping they give him a power-up soon because being generically strong is pretty boring.
 

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So it looks like we're going to have the Outsiders team and the Young Justice team. That should be interesting, although I don't get why it couldn't have just been two different shows.

I'm super excited to see Wally back, and Kaldur too. They were butchered in the comics, and I've been wanting to see my favorite versions of them again.
 

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ObsidianJones said:
Palindromemordnilap said:
Wait, they're not including Superboy? He was a pretty major character from the last couple of seasons. I guess if they feel they've taken his story as far as they can, then fine, I'd rather that than force him. I'm just glad they still have Blue Beetle and Impulse, I liked how they bounced off each other
The more I'm thinking about it, it kind of makes sense that Connor isn't there. Out of everyone, he embodied the "I don't know who I am" aspect of growing into a teenager. He was more well adjusted in season 3. He always could have been the character to take the wild ones under his wing...

No. Fuck. Connor should really be in it. That's a PERFECT message to give.

Captain Marvelous said:
There's no chance in hell Connor wont show up at some point. And there's always the possibility of Supergirl joining the team down the line. Jonathan Kent may show up, too. I don't think we ever got anything concrete about Clark and Lois, so it's certainly a possibility. In teams like these we always need at least one representative from each of the Trinity. I know Batman always gets way more representation than the others, but his branch of the trinity is more popular than the others. And I'd love to have Orphan aka Cassandra Cain show up.

Spoiler's inclusion does mean bad news for Tim and Cassie's relationship, so I'm looking forward seeing how that plays out. I'm happy to see Blue Beetle return and here's hoping he and Traci 13 hit it off Just learned she's gay now. Oh, well. I'm ecstatic that my boy Static is back at it! I've been looking forward to season 3 just for his return as a hero.
I get that Batman's more popular. I'm fine with the people I like not being popular. Fuck, I still say Monday Night Combat was one of the best games ever made, and I love Mickey Cantor.

The problem is that I hate the stupidity attached to Batman being more popular.

The "He's a normal guy so I can relate to him more so he should be able to beat literal Gods" aspect is mind bending in its ignorance. "I Hate Superman because he's dumbly powerful" is usually uttered in the same paragraph which they will state "No one should be able to beat Batman because he's really powerful and the best hero of all time" without not a hint of irony. The fanboner that made Batman into a 'Nice Normal Unbeatable Human God That Can Never Lose But We All Can Relate To' breaks everything that he's in for me.

You know, I'm torn with Static. I am glad that he joined up. But something about the unsanctioned "We were created by the bad guys but now we rebelled and doing things our own way" team in Season 2 was great. They all had real chemistry.
Superman is merely a god among men, batman is a Mary-Sue who the plot will bend itself into pretzels to justify. Batman is therefore the most powerful being in the DCU.
 
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ObsidianJones said:
The "He's a normal guy so I can relate to him more so he should be able to beat literal Gods" aspect is mind bending in its ignorance. "I Hate Superman because he's dumbly powerful" is usually uttered in the same paragraph which they will state "No one should be able to beat Batman because he's really powerful and the best hero of all time" without not a hint of irony. The fanboner that made Batman into a 'Nice Normal Unbeatable Human God That Can Never Lose But We All Can Relate To' breaks everything that he's in for me.

You know, I'm torn with Static. I am glad that he joined up. But something about the unsanctioned "We were created by the bad guys but now we rebelled and doing things our own way" team in Season 2 was great. They all had real chemistry.
I agree. I'm a Batman fan, but I'm more interested in the Batman, and Gotham, mythos. Gotham city is probably one of the most interesting cities in DC and I love when writers explore it's dark secrets. As far as Batman being relatable, that's really only ever been applicable to the dead parents thing, though I can see people finding his paranoia and whatnot relatable. I honestly find Superman to be far more human and relatable that Batman. Unfortunately the Batman mythos has been getting a tad ridiculous as of late. I think we're long overdue for Bruce to die off and for Grayson to take over.

I am kinda sad to see Static's old team go. I like how they re-invented some old heroes like Justice League (TAS) did. I remember in season 2 the Young Justice heroes were commonly split into teams and it was made a big deal that Tim Drake would be leading a team for the first time. I'm hoping something similar is done for Static and his old crew.

Bob_McMillan said:
As long as Red Hood shows up, allz is good.
I remember Greg Weisman saying There were no plans for a Red Hood story in Young Justice. There's a chance that could have changed, so here's hoping.

I wonder what Black Lightning is doing with Superboy, Nightwing, and Artemis.
 
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Captain Marvelous said:
I agree. I'm a Batman fan, but I'm more interested in the Batman, and Gotham, mythos. Gotham city is probably one of the most interesting cities in DC and I love when writers explore it's dark secrets. As far as Batman being relatable, that's really only ever been applicable to the dead parents thing, though I can see people finding his paranoia and whatnot relatable. I honestly find Superman to be far more human and relatable that Batman. Unfortunately the Batman mythos has been getting a tad ridiculous as of late. I think we're long overdue for Bruce to die off and for Grayson to take over.
I'mma let you finish... but Grayson should stay in Bludhaven.

We already have Future Batman [http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_(Terry_McGinnis)].

Captain Marvelous said:
I wonder what Black Lightning is doing with Superboy, Nightwing, and Artemis.
What I find interesting is that it gives us some idea of the time skip. I don't think they'll have a teen Black Lightning along with Static. He's probably more like a mentor.

So if he's rolling with Connor and a very mature-looking Artemis... what are we saying, Ten years after the Light? Fifteen?
 
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Bob_McMillan said:
As long as Red Hood shows up, allz is good.

Regarding Connor, I think he and a few others of the OG team are some sort of covert ops (well, even more covert I guess) team. I'll try to find the pics I saw.

EDIT:

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/More-Young-Justice-Outsiders.jpg

Could just be fan art, especially since they've shown us Nightwing is still in his regular costume.

EDIT EDIT:

http://cdn2us.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeekus/files/styles/article_width/public/2018/06/young-justice-season-3-release-date-news-cast-outsiders-dc-universe.jpg?itok=pXHUQ2x3

Well that's Conner right there. I'm hoping they give him a power-up soon because being generically strong is pretty boring.
I've seen that first image as an official pic before, but maybe it's stuff that didn't make the cut given that no-one is wearing those costumes in the second one. Though I had assumed the third guy along was Kaldur, by the looks of it he's actually Black Lightning. Looking completely different to how he was before though, so maybe this is Kaldur but with a whole new alias for himself
 
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Captain Marvelous said:
I agree. I'm a Batman fan, but I'm more interested in the Batman, and Gotham, mythos. Gotham city is probably one of the most interesting cities in DC and I love when writers explore it's dark secrets. As far as Batman being relatable, that's really only ever been applicable to the dead parents thing, though I can see people finding his paranoia and whatnot relatable. I honestly find Superman to be far more human and relatable that Batman. Unfortunately the Batman mythos has been getting a tad ridiculous as of late. I think we're long overdue for Bruce to die off and for Grayson to take over.
I'mma let you finish... but Grayson should stay in Bludhaven.

We already have Future Batman [http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman_(Terry_McGinnis)].

Captain Marvelous said:
I wonder what Black Lightning is doing with Superboy, Nightwing, and Artemis.
What I find interesting is that it gives us some idea of the time skip. I don't think they'll have a teen Black Lightning along with Static. He's probably more like a mentor.

So if he's rolling with Connor and a very mature-looking Artemis... what are we saying, Ten years after the Light? Fifteen?
I like Terry and all, but that'd require Bruce to stick around for a few more decades, and I'm against that idea. Especially since I kinda hate Beyond Bruce. Timm tried his damnest to make me hate his version of Bruce and I'll be damned if he didn't succeed.

The time skip between seasons 1 and 2 was only 4 years, right? I doubt the time skip between Seasons 2 and 3 will be large if only because Time Drake is still Robin. One would assume that a 5-10 year time skip would involve Tim becoming Red Robin and Damian taking up the mantle.

Black Lightning was revealed to be a member of the Justice League in season 2. Near the end of the season he and Virgil team up, he tells Virgil that he has a lot of potential, and offers to mentor him. I'm more interested in why he's on the team with the other 3. One would assume Kaldur or M'gann would be the fourth member.

Palindromemordnilap said:
I've seen that first image as an official pic before, but maybe it's stuff that didn't make the cut given that no-one is wearing those costumes in the second one. Though I had assumed the third guy along was Kaldur, by the looks of it he's actually Black Lightning. Looking completely different to how he was before though, so maybe this is Kaldur but with a whole new alias for himself
While a new alias is completely possible, I highly doubt they'd have Kaldur take on the mantle of a pre-established character. Well, unless Black Lightning is dead. I also remember Kaldur saying he'd be taking a break from the hero thing for a while. When we are inevitably re-introduced to Kaldur, it'll likely be a few episodes into the show. Certainly after the Black Lightning, Artemis, Superboy, and Nightwing team is created.
 

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Captain Marvelous said:
I'm more interested in why he's on the team with the other 3. One would assume Kaldur or M'gann would be the fourth member.
The original Outsiders line up was Batman, Black Lightning, Metamorpho, Geo-Force, Katana, and Halo; the last 4 of those are standing in the foreground behind Nightwing, who is presumably a stand in for Batman in this incarnation. Black Lightning is hovering there in the background. They're all there because that's what the team was in the comics. Presumably, as the Outsiders team and the Young Justice Team crossover (which is what I'm guessing is being set up), there's going to be some interaction between Static and Black Lightning, since that was set up at the end of Season 2.

They are joined by some bug guy. Nobody really knows who that is, although there's a couple of guesses.

Oh, and on the subject of the time skip, I'd bet on 3-5 years. Static was 15 in season 2, and he's looking pretty fairly grown-up, along with Blue Beetle and new Kid Flash.

Captain Marvelous said:
While a new alias is completely possible, I highly doubt they'd have Kaldur take on the mantle of a pre-established character. Well, unless Black Lightning is dead. I also remember Kaldur saying he'd be taking a break from the hero thing for a while.
You are mistaken. At the end of Season 2, Nightwing is the one who says he needs a break after Wally's death, and gives back leadership of the Team to Kaldur.
 
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SupahEwok said:
Captain Marvelous said:
I'm more interested in why he's on the team with the other 3. One would assume Kaldur or M'gann would be the fourth member.
The original Outsiders line up was Batman, Black Lightning, Metamorpho, Geo-Force, Katana, and Halo; the last 4 of those are standing in the foreground behind Nightwing, who is presumably a stand in for Batman in this incarnation. Black Lightning is hovering there in the background. They're all there because that's what the team was in the comics. Presumably, as the Outsiders team and the Young Justice Team crossover (which is what I'm guessing is being set up), there's going to be some interaction between Static and Black Lightning, since that was set up at the end of Season 2.

They are joined by some bug guy. Nobody really knows who that is, although there's a couple of guesses.

Oh, and on the subject of the time skip, I'd bet on 3-5 years. Static was 15 in season 2, and he's looking pretty fairly grown-up, along with Blue Beetle and new Kid Flash.
Well, that explains quite a bit. I never read any of the outsiders comics so I would never have made the connections. Thanks for the explanation.

I guess I can kinda see 3 years. Static does look more mature than in season 2. Most of the season 2 new characters, Impulse, Blue Beetle, Static, etc were 13-16, right? That'd put them right around graduation/entering college. Which looks about right for them, minus Impulse and Beast Boy.

Captain Marvelous said:
While a new alias is completely possible, I highly doubt they'd have Kaldur take on the mantle of a pre-established character. Well, unless Black Lightning is dead. I also remember Kaldur saying he'd be taking a break from the hero thing for a while.
You are mistaken. At the end of Season 2, Nightwing is the one who says he needs a break after Wally's death, and gives back leadership of the Team to Kaldur.
Oof, you're right. Dunno how I managed to mix that up. I wonder why we haven't gotten any images of Aqualad yet, then.
 
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Hey, quick weird question.

Do you consider Magic Users as having super powers or not?

The reason for this question is because it's commonly said that you just need the right mind or will power to use magic. I'm trying to figure out if 13 should count as a super being or just a hero with another tool in her arsenal.

Whatever the case, Wondergirl and Impulse are the only members of the team born with their abilities.

Nothing to it, really. I think it's just an interesting point.
 

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If there is one thing I don't like about YJ is that they have a timeskip every season, like let me get used to the characters we alread have for at least 2 seasons
 

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Hey, quick weird question.

Do you consider Magic Users as having super powers or not?

The reason for this question is because it's commonly said that you just need the right mind or will power to use magic. I'm trying to figure out if 13 should count as a super being or just a hero with another tool in her arsenal.

Whatever the case, Wondergirl and Impulse are the only members of the team born with their abilities.

Nothing to it, really. I think it's just an interesting point.
I think magic users would count as super powered being but their powers are things that are learned as opposed to being born with or thrust onto them.