Your reaction if we went to war with North Korea?

[Auron225]

Suppose it was announced tomorrow that "we" (I'll give 3 different scenarios for who "we" includes) had declared war with North Korea. What would your reaction be? Would you think it's about time? Would you be distraught?

As for who "we" is (you can break up your answers if it changes how you'd feel about it);

1) U.S.A. alone VS North Korea

2) U.S.A., the UK, South Korea, Japan and minor help from other countries (with China and Russia agreeing to not get involved).

3) Every country against North Korea.

Also; how would you feel if North Korea had not provoked us as opposed to them striking first?

 

[Thaluikhain]

If it's other nations attacking NK without provocation...well, look how Iraq turned out. Only, it'd be much worse.

If it's other nations attacking NK with provocation...well, look how Afghanistan turned out. Only, it'd be much worse.

Now, if this was 2001, and 911/equivalent was done by NK, and the US had not interest in invading Muslim nations and could devote all its energies to NK...not sure. Still a big problem, but might be feasible.

 

[Hoplon]

I wound wonder what would be the point of killing a lot of abjectly impoverished people would be. Plus if it was a 9/11 situation again they would probably attack Thailand or someone else equally unrelated.

 

[Jesse Billingsley]

The US doesn't really have a reason to go to war with NK unless they were provoked. In any case, North Korea is fucked in every which way to Sunday. They not only lack the level of technology that the US and their Allies possess, but they also lack the man power. The US alone has 145 million people ready for war while NK has only 12 million. If other countries had a reason to get involved, the war would be so one sided that I feel bad just thinking about it.

 

[Parasondox]

If they haven't provoked the situation then there would be no point to the war. It will just be another 21st century war with no real end. Just rebellion and resistance. The question to add on to that is, what will be the end result with a "win" against North Korea? How do you tell millions of people that have been deeply loyal to their high leaders, that they, Un and Ill, weren't the greatest leaders and a God to them in some cases. You can unbrainwash millions of people.

 

[Thaluikhain]

They not only lack the level of technology that the US and their Allies possess, but they also lack the man power. The US alone has 145 million people ready for war while NK has only 12 million.

Only a tiny fraction of those 145 million[footnote]I take it you mean men. Women can serve in various roles in the US military, and that of nations being invaded[/footnote] would ever be involved, though. A much greater proportion of NK's 12 million would have to be involved, whether it wanted to or not.

Now, certainly, the "war", would be one-sided, but the "peace" would likely resemble the Vietnam war.

 

[tilmoph]

First thought; Oh Christ, not another war. We're poor for fuck's sake, we can't afford this shit!

Second thought; How bad did True Korea screw the pooch to make China ok with this? Because if China isn't ok with this, nobody is doing shit.

Third thought; So we're just gonna dumped the bombed out shithole ruins of a starving shithole country on South Korea? Are they really, really not poor? Cuz we're poor as hell, so no rebuilding for us, and rebuilding something as completely wonked out as Only Korea even pre ass stomping would require tons upon tons of not poor, let alone post burn it all (admittedly, there isn't a whole lot of "all" to burn, but still).

Fourth thought; wait, are we invading or just sending in a bunch of killbots to bomb shit? We can kinda sorta almost afford that, but I'm not sure why we'd bother? Are they trying to accidentally "nuke" Japan again? Can Japan just bomb them and we keep China out of it?

Fifth thought; Can the rest of the planet handle this? Like, without our broke fat asses? Because I don't wanna. We're poor, we don't need more war, other people need more war. Or police actions or what the fuck ever.

In conclusion; North Korea is a godawful shithole. I don't wanna bomb them if someone else can do it.

 

[Jesse Billingsley]

They not only lack the level of technology that the US and their Allies possess, but they also lack the man power. The US alone has 145 million people ready for war while NK has only 12 million.

Only a tiny fraction of those 145 million[footnote]I take it you mean men. Women can serve in various roles in the US military, and that of nations being invaded[/footnote] would ever be involved, though. A much greater proportion of NK's 12 million would have to be involved, whether it wanted to or not.

Now, certainly, the "war", would be one-sided, but the "peace" would likely resemble the Vietnam war.

Man power = personnel (men and women).

I'm at a loss when it comes to 'maintaining the peace.' They'd likely try the whole song and dance of 'let's give these people democracy' like they did in Iraq.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Man power = personnel (men and women).

Ah, ok, I misread you there, as in both cases the number seems to be about the number of male adults in the population.

I'm at a loss when it comes to 'maintaining the peace.' They'd likely try the whole song and dance of 'let's give these people democracy' like they did in Iraq.

Though, the success of that depends in large part on what outside support the local insurgents are getting, which hasn't been specified.

Alternatively, they could find themselves a puppet dictator to install, but have to give up the pretense of democracy building.

 

[Jesse Billingsley]

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But wouldn't SK attempt to reunite with NK if the dictatorship had been brought down during the fighting?

 

[Thaluikhain]

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But wouldn't SK attempt to reunite with NK if the dictatorship had been brought down during the fighting?

Possibly, there'd be people in favour of that. But it'd be a huge headache. By rough comparison, imagine if tomorrow, all of Mexico became a state or states of the US. The government suddenly has to look after a massive amount of people in an area with poor infrastructure, poverty and so on, who would presumably all get the vote.

Much easier to let them sort themselves out, and hope for reunification somewhere later down the line.

 

[StriderShinryu]

My first thought would be a giant "What The Fuck?!?" That would remain pretty much consistent regardless of who was involved.

My second would probably be, well that was over as quickly as I expected. There is no way North Korea could stand up to a focused attack by even one country with a developed modern military, never mind a combination of them. All a "war" with North Korea would result in is a lot of North Koreans dying for no reason. And just as sadly, it could also mean a last minute lashing out by North Korea at the few places it could actually attack, like South Korea or Japan. If the North Koreans truly have been developing nuclear weaponry as many suspect they have, that could be devastating but probably wouldn't directly involve the countries who might be leading the attack.

 

[DANEgerous]

This will be one of the most absurd wars of all time. The population of North Korea are on some level slaves as well as brainwashed do much so that the Army is maid mainly Kim Jong Un and is not so much people fighting for a nation they believe in yet reasons they do not or by methods they do not approve of to give it its twisted dark side but fighting for a nation that is not what they think it is because that is the only option. North Korea is a nation like no other in all the worst ways and the same can likely be said of most of it's army many of whom may think they are fighting for a man who is essentially god in their minds.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Regardless of the outcome, my first initial reaction would be "Heh a reverse Homefront". Sure I may be "underestimating" North Korea but come on, unless they had better equipments and threats underground, the war will not be in North Korea favour.

 

[Armadox]

I am not in the military. Apparently they don't want a metal man who can't feel pain. So a war with anyone is none of my business. Until it is, and until it is I don't care. We'll hot foot around with trying to send restrained fighting methods so as to not provoke China as we went. There'd be people waving flags and something on the news.

A war with North Korea would be the same as the last ones.

And seeing any other country join in seems.. like it'd set off China pretty hard. Don't know who'd risk it.

 

[Mumbly]

It'd be a "Won the war, lost the peace" scenario. Plus, it's close enough to China's sphere of influence that they might want to start with sanctions, and with the Chinese having their hands in so much economy all over the world, those sanctions would be a tad painful.

I hope that somehow, sometime, the Koreas can reunify peacefully, by the way.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Always amusing how many fantasies about invading the evil foreigners get conjured up, even more amusing when you imagine those other guys are the real crazies.

 

[the_dramatica]

The United States alone would decimate them. But it hurts our diplomatic relations with China, who buy our debt, and we don't really gain anything financially from it. It would be a foolish decision.

 

[Thaluikhain]

There is no way North Korea could stand up to a focused attack by even one country with a developed modern military, never mind a combination of them.

Define "stand up". There's no reason why they'd have to rely on conventional warfare.

If the North Koreans truly have been developing nuclear weaponry as many suspect they have, that could be devastating but probably wouldn't directly involve the countries who might be leading the attack.

Why not? Sure, mainland US is far from NK, but invading forces can't be.

For that matter, what's to stop a nuclear device being smuggled in a civilian vessel, or by submarine, to a foreign port?

 

[Johnny Thunder]

I would say: good it's about time that open-air concentration camp was closed. Just be careful about two things:
- They might have the ability to strike Seoul with nuclear weapons: keep some anti-ballistic missiles or whatever is needed on standby.
- Many of the indoctrinated North-Koreans who believe the Kims are gods and can read minds and whatnot will resist their liberation with all their might, though I think they will come around quick enough when they see the Kims regime fall and discover what the outside world -particularly South-Korea- is like.