your theory for the beginning of the world?
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pretty much every theory about creation has some amount of holes in it, so I've never really decided what I believe about it. Evolution makes the most sense, but it could very well be something completely different.
and the big bang just sounds cool. Everything exploding everywhere = Creation of planets and such? epic
Edit: I've since been informed of my lack of thinking before I posted, no reason to continually point it out
and the big bang just sounds cool. Everything exploding everywhere = Creation of planets and such? epic
Edit: I've since been informed of my lack of thinking before I posted, no reason to continually point it out
The way I see it, if there is a being who knows about the whole of time at the same instant, then such a being could quite effectively alter the course of the entire universe to fit his whims with only a few minor changes to the pre-universal ball of compressed energy. That being said, the existence of such a being is questionable at best.
So, basically, what I'm saying is that if there is a God, and he created the Earth, he didn't really have to do it after the Big Bang or instead of it or whatever. He could have just made sure that id DID happen. Which, of course, is impossible to prove.
So, basically, what I'm saying is that if there is a God, and he created the Earth, he didn't really have to do it after the Big Bang or instead of it or whatever. He could have just made sure that id DID happen. Which, of course, is impossible to prove.
"In the beginning, God created the Heaven and the Earth. And the Earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was moved on the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light."believer258 said:
ie. Big bang -> Space and matter. Matter =/= Planets & Stars; Darkness + Hydrogen > other elements. Stars and planets started to form.
That's just my take.
While it's nice to throw ideas around, it's also pointless to argue over something we can never really prove one way or the other (that is, to the extent that extremists on all sides will agree on such conclusive evidence, you will always have the nay-sayers). Fact is, humans are here on earth now and that's all that matters to me. Not the shit that happened before humans discovered the secret to steel or that the earth was round.
In laymens terms, first there was the big bang. Which created all mass. At the time, this was just basic elements, like hydrogen.
Eventually this mass settled into it's own gravity to create systems. These early systems aren't like our own, rather than being a star surrounded by planets and asteroids, they were simply whirlpools of matter. Over time however, they continued to collapse under their own gravity, until there was enough pressure at the centre of the whirlpool for hydrogen atoms to fuse together, into helium. Which is where the first stars came from. Eventually, these systems burned up their supply of mass creating increasingly heavier elements, and became supernovas (it's important to note, not all of these stars went supernova, a lot first generation stars still exist today, in fact). In doing so, the denser naturally occurring elements were created, such as iron.
Our own system was created from the debris of this first generation of stars (we know this from the presence of these denser elements), formed in a relatively similar way. Planets and Asteroids formed in a similar method to stars (in fact, there even remains some of the dust and gas that made up our planets so long ago in the Oort Clouds [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_Cloud] that surround systems).
Early Earth was very different to how it is today, for starters, the surface it was molten. It was during this time, that another planet (known as Theia) collided with Earth, knocking a large portion of the Earth's liquid crust into orbit. This later formed into what we now know as the Moon. Due to it's much smaller mass, Theia was completely obliterated in this collision.
Eventually the Earth cooled, and life began to develop. There are a lot of different theories about how this happened (some of them even suggest life didn't develop on Earth at all, rather, it originated on Venus, and slowly migrated to planets further from the sun, as they became habitable), I'm not a biologist, so I won't comment on this. But I will say, there's no evidence life was either introduced to or created on Earth by any sort of intelligence.
Eventually this mass settled into it's own gravity to create systems. These early systems aren't like our own, rather than being a star surrounded by planets and asteroids, they were simply whirlpools of matter. Over time however, they continued to collapse under their own gravity, until there was enough pressure at the centre of the whirlpool for hydrogen atoms to fuse together, into helium. Which is where the first stars came from. Eventually, these systems burned up their supply of mass creating increasingly heavier elements, and became supernovas (it's important to note, not all of these stars went supernova, a lot first generation stars still exist today, in fact). In doing so, the denser naturally occurring elements were created, such as iron.
Our own system was created from the debris of this first generation of stars (we know this from the presence of these denser elements), formed in a relatively similar way. Planets and Asteroids formed in a similar method to stars (in fact, there even remains some of the dust and gas that made up our planets so long ago in the Oort Clouds [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oort_Cloud] that surround systems).
Early Earth was very different to how it is today, for starters, the surface it was molten. It was during this time, that another planet (known as Theia) collided with Earth, knocking a large portion of the Earth's liquid crust into orbit. This later formed into what we now know as the Moon. Due to it's much smaller mass, Theia was completely obliterated in this collision.
Eventually the Earth cooled, and life began to develop. There are a lot of different theories about how this happened (some of them even suggest life didn't develop on Earth at all, rather, it originated on Venus, and slowly migrated to planets further from the sun, as they became habitable), I'm not a biologist, so I won't comment on this. But I will say, there's no evidence life was either introduced to or created on Earth by any sort of intelligence.
The FSM created the Earth and Co. in four days and a hangover.
Or possibly a big explosion. Either one works.
Or possibly a big explosion. Either one works.
Which is not what Big Bang is about... It's just about the beginning of the universe and it's expansion.ZeZZZZevy said:
Then was the formation of elements, galaxies, planets...
Then life began on Earth and evolution(which is an observable phenomenon) is what happens to it and leads to all these different organisms.
Why don't people seem to understand that there are so many diffferent fields of study about this?
Scientists aren't saying it all exploded into being or something. Or that universe evolved or whatever.
If your God is something that cannot be detected at all, it doesn't really matter, and cannot be researched via science. Isn't that a useless concept, then? And if you are saying that god is guiding it with his mind, how do you propose this happens, and how can it be detected?believer258 said:
As soon as religion makes any claims about reality, they can be studied with science.