Your thoughts on, the mess that is the BBC. (Oh Boy!)

[Parasondox]

If you thought I was talking about the other kind of "BBC", then how daaaaaaaaaare you come here with those dirty thoughts. Also, PM me if you wanna know more . Rated 18 for adult viewing. (Even though on hiatus, I still wouldn't do a cute pic for the BBC. They will just end up making is a clusterfuck)

From TV licence (a fucking dumb Tax), to a political hell, to money wasting schemes, to overpriced presenters, to cutting content, to Jeremy Clarkson, to the dark dark 50 year past, the BBC, British Broadcasting Corporation, is just a major fucking mess at the moment. You can simple type, latest news about the BBC, into your preferred search engine and out comes news article after news article after news article about the long history of the BBC. Apart from the NHS, that has its own problems at the moment, HUNT!!, this is another major public mess. Too many chefs in the kitchen?

To those outside of the UK, you may have no clue about the going ons at the BBC but to those who do, well... celebrities here, some, could literally get away with murder. That hasn't been uncovered yet at the BBC but who knows.

So your thoughts on this giant, tax paying company. Or should I say, funded by tax payers money company... corporation?

You know, if I assaulted a staff member, I would be sacked or even be arrested. But if you are a top BBC presenter, you will have people defending you and get a pay out. No, that wasnt the first time the said presenter had a warning against them.

 

[DefunctTheory]

...Ok.

So, care to provide advanced context for us ignorant Americans, or is this just a hilariously delayed complaint regarding Jeremy Clarkson?

 

[Parasondox]

...Ok.

So, care to provide advanced context for us ignorant Americans, or is this just a hilariously delayed complaint regarding Jeremy Clarkson?

Funny.

Link time.

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=bbc+savile+report

https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=bbc+clarkson

...Ok.

So, care to provide advanced context for us ignorant Americans, or is this just a hilariously delayed complaint regarding Jeremy Clarkson?

Well I know there was a conspiracy to cover up child rape perpetuated by higher-ups in the BBC, back in th 90s' if I'm correct. Then there's just a lot of general impropriety by higherups and people who have screen presence (such as Clarkson).

Way before the 90s. 60s and 70s mostly. The BBC has nearly as much cover ups as the Catholic Church.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

I actually watch it's american counterpart quite a fair bit, BBC America. I fell in love with Top Gear and I was soooo pissed when they let Jeremy go.

 

[Silvanus]

From TV licence (a fucking dumb Tax)[...]

Given the level of quality received in return, I have little problem with the licence fee. What they offer would cost a great deal more on subscription.

You know, if I assaulted a staff member, I would be sacked or even be arrested. But if you are a top BBC presenter, you will have people defending you and get a pay out. No, that wasnt the first time the said presenter had a warning against them.

I agree very much that Clarkson was treated with kid-gloves after that affair, and the reaction of the public was tremendously poor (though the BBC can hardly be blamed for that). But, Clarkson never received a pay-out. He's the one who has had to pay Oisin Tymon.

The BBC is covering part of the costs to Tymon, which they shouldn't be, sure, but Clarkson isn't receiving any money from anyone.

I meant that it came to light in the 90s'. Or was it comparatively recent? I'm not really familiar with the BBC's misdeeds to be honest, I just know the vague details.

Most of that was a good deal later than the 90s. The most notable entry has been the coming-to-light of Savile's crimes, which mostly happened after his death in 2011.

 

[FalloutJack]

The burning of early Doctor Who episodes (thinking nobody'll ever want to see them again) must be given mention. After all, Doctor Who is the longest-running sci-fi series in the world, but let's not keep any of it around for posterity, right? Bloody idiots.

 

[Albino Boo]

Well I know there was a conspiracy to cover up child rape perpetrated by higher-ups in the BBC, back in the 90s' if I'm correct. Then there's just a lot of general impropriety by higher ups and people who have screen presence (such as Clarkson).

The offending took place in the 70s and early 80s. The 2 people that can be without doubt offended while at the BBC careers ended in the late 80s. The mess the BBC got themselves into more recent. The biggest offender, Jimmy Savile, died and the BBC broadcast a tribute. At the same time the one of the BBC News programmes was preparing a story on Saville's criminal activity. The story was never broadcast, after management pressure, but eventually resurfaced on another channel's News show. This lead to heavy pressure on the BBC. The BBC then made thing much worse by a story by another BBC news show broadcasting a story about a senior member of the governing party being a pedophile. Not only was the story not true but they hadn't carried out basic checks as to the identity of the person being accused. This forced the resignation of the BBC's director general, George Entwistle, after less than a month in office. George Entwistle received a payoff off 450,000 pounds when he resigned.

Since then we have had the Jeremy Clarkson punch up, which is quite well known outside of the UK. There is also the collapse of the charity Kidscape. A senior BBC manager, Alan Yentob, was a trustee of the charity and tried to halt a BBC investigation into the charity. Yentob turned up in the studio when the CEO of the charity was being interviewed are tried to pressure journalist into not asking difficult questions. This caused Alan Yentob to resign from one of his 2 jobs at the BBC.

 

[Thaluikhain]

The burning of early Doctor Who episodes (thinking nobody'll ever want to see them again) must be given mention. After all, Doctor Who is the longest-running sci-fi series in the world, but let's not keep any of it around for posterity, right? Bloody idiots.

It really, really was not obvious it'd be so successful, though. The BBC was going to cancel Dr Who at various times, often with good reason (sometimes it got terrible viewing figures, strange as it seems nowdays), only they couldn't get a show to replace it so had to keep it going. Could easily have disappeared.

Speaking of Doctor Who, one of the special features on one of the DVDs is about how the Sontarans were developed. Apparently they appeared on one episode of "Jim'll Fix It", and Colin Baker says that Jim Savile is more scary than any Sontaran. In hindsight, that is absolutely literally true.

(Likewise, that episode of the Goodies where the UK is overrun by a plague of Rolf Harrisses looks very different in hindsight)

 

[Parasondox]

If you thought I was talking about the other kind of "BBC", then how daaaaaaaaaare you come here with those dirty thoughts. Also, PM me if you wanna know more . Rated 18 for adult viewing. (Even though on hiatus, I still wouldn't do a cute pic for the BBC. They will just end up making is a clusterfuck)

From TV licence (a fucking dumb Tax), to a political hell, to money wasting schemes, to overpriced presenters, to cutting content, to Jeremy Clarkson, to the dark dark 50 year past, the BBC, British Broadcasting Corporation, is just a major fucking mess at the moment. You can simple type, latest news about the BBC, into your preferred search engine and out comes news article after news article after news article about the long history of the BBC. Apart from the NHS, that has its own problems at the moment, HUNT!!, this is another major public mess. Too many chefs in the kitchen?

To those outside of the UK, you may have no clue about the going ons at the BBC but to those who do, well... celebrities here, some, could literally get away with murder. That hasn't been uncovered yet at the BBC but who knows.

So your thoughts on this giant, tax paying company. Or should I say, funded by tax payers money company... corporation?

You know, if I assaulted a staff member, I would be sacked or even be arrested. But if you are a top BBC presenter, you will have people defending you and get a pay out. No, that wasnt the first time the said presenter had a warning against them.

you smell of the daily mail. probably pay sky 10 times as much as the license fee and think it's a bargain. drivel mate.

HEY!! It was just that one moment with the Daily Mail I had back in 2012. A one time night fun. I don't smell of them anymore.

Also, no I don't have sky so thanks for assuming. Your response sounded like a MailOnline comment.

 

[Albino Boo]

The burning of early Doctor Who episodes (thinking nobody'll ever want to see them again) must be given mention. After all, Doctor Who is the longest-running sci-fi series in the world, but let's not keep any of it around for posterity, right? Bloody idiots.

They disposed of all the copies of all their shows until the late 70s, not just Dr Who. Most TV broadcasts were never recorded at all and videotape was expensive and the technology wasn't thought to be archivible. Its wasn't until the late 70s when most the BBC's output was recorded as opposed to broadcast live and the technology was good enough and cheap enough to keep.

 

[Hoplon]

HEY!! It was just that one moment with the Daily Mail I had back in 2012. A one time night fun. I don't smell of them anymore.

Also, no I don't have sky so thanks for assuming. Your response sounded like a MailOnline comment.

Apologies, I clearly missed the mark with my attempt at humor. btw, real person on local radio, complained that the BBC was too expensive, claimed they paid sky ?1000 a year for... no idea.

 

[Parasondox]

The burning of early Doctor Who episodes (thinking nobody'll ever want to see them again) must be given mention. After all, Doctor Who is the longest-running sci-fi series in the world, but let's not keep any of it around for posterity, right? Bloody idiots.

They disposed of all the copies of all their shows until the late 70s, not just Dr Who. Most TV broadcasts were never recorded at all and videotape was expensive and the technology wasn't thought to be achievable. Its wasn't until the late 70s when most the BBC's output was recorded as opposed to broadcast live and the technology was good enough and cheap enough to keep.

Well Top of the Pop will be very edited, deleted or, "a mysterious fire burnt down one of our warehouse. oh nooooo".

 

[Thaluikhain]

HEY!! It was just that one moment with the Daily Mail I had back in 2012. A one time night fun. I don't smell of them anymore.

Only takes once, and then you're complaining about youths wearing hoodies giving pensioners cancer.

 

[Parasondox]

HEY!! It was just that one moment with the Daily Mail I had back in 2012. A one time night fun. I don't smell of them anymore.

Also, no I don't have sky so thanks for assuming. Your response sounded like a MailOnline comment.

Apologies, I clearly missed the mark with my attempt at humor. btw, real person on local radio, complained that the BBC was too expensive, claimed they paid sky ?1000 a year for... no idea.

I realised after my third reading of your post. Good point. My apologise good sir.

And Sky is a major expensive luxury and I always laugh at those calls. "Pay ?10 extra a month for our new Sky Q. What's Sky Q you ask? Well nothing like Sky 3D which was a failed gimmick."

 

[Albino Boo]

Well Top of the Pop will be very edited, deleted or, "a mysterious fire burnt down one of our warehouse. oh nooooo".

Given all the stories about Top of the pops presenters and many of the bands, I think at this point this only leaves the Osmunds as safe to broadcast. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[CeeBod]

Good TV, talented program-makers, management is mostly a bag of useless dicks. The same description could be applied to lots of similarly sized companies, but we just know much more about the BBC's dirty laundry than the scandals that are routinely swept under the rug in most private companies. The TV license is worth it for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough alone.

 

[maninahat]

[THE BEEB SNIP]

My thoughts on the beeb is that they are a much maligned organisation that is invariably damned if it does and damned if it doesn't.

Unfortunately it can't do much to fix its shitty past, but is often damned for trying to do anything about its present. When Clarkson got the sack, there were millions of idiots complaining that the beeb had thrown away an invaluable asset over something as trivial as aggravated assault. The alternative would be to keep on a notoriously racist, violent arsehole and continue to project the image that the beeb lets its presenters get away with anything. Similarly there is this hypocritical notion that the beeb is all too left wing and PC, this despite the fact that its mostly highly paid presenter, Clarkson, is one of the most well-known, right wing, un-PC commentators out there and the beeb have been going out of their way to hang on to the idiot until he made it impossible to do so.

As for the tv tax - yeah, its a *****, but I think it is ultimately worth having. Imagine if America had a tv license system - it would become the world's most well funded tv channel by a longshot, able to put out goddamn blockbuster level movies on the back of the tax money of 300 million people. The beeb already puts out some of the most expensive dramas, documentaries and tv shows in the World, and it is great that it is able to do that.

 

[maninahat]

The burning of early Doctor Who episodes (thinking nobody'll ever want to see them again) must be given mention. After all, Doctor Who is the longest-running sci-fi series in the world, but let's not keep any of it around for posterity, right? Bloody idiots.

It really, really was not obvious it'd be so successful, though. The BBC was going to cancel Dr Who at various times, often with good reason (sometimes it got terrible viewing figures, strange as it seems nowdays), only they couldn't get a show to replace it so had to keep it going. Could easily have disappeared.

Speaking of Doctor Who, one of the special features on one of the DVDs is about how the Sontarans were developed. Apparently they appeared on one episode of "Jim'll Fix It", and Colin Baker says that Jim Savile is more scary than any Sontaran. In hindsight, that is absolutely literally true.

(Likewise, that episode of the Goodies where the UK is overrun by a plague of Rolf Harrisses looks very different in hindsight)

What about that Apartheid themed episode of the Goodies that has mysteriously disappeared from all circulation?