In theory not bad, in practice cultural attitudes to porn vary wildly and i would sooner have some international agreement about boundaries than the bigger and more influential countries pushing through their attitudes via local courts and economic influence.
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Depressing, but truthful. I was always wondering why that purge exactly happened. I never really followed up on it. That makes way more sense than this whole Purantism bullcrap. Also, just because something is "pure" it's not automatically make it good.
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Unopened paraphilia is still sellable, but pornographic anime, manga and games aren't.
Still a good deal of vintage adult game content just got flushed down a memory like that
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That is probably true (not that i really have a good grasp on the state of internet pornography) but i remember past pushes doing that being wildly ineffective, a huge problem for privacy protection or both.
And considering this time it is not done via regulation but by the private sector itself, i am sceptical about how well it will go. And considering that the first post is about ebay forbidding hentai reselling, i fail to see how that has anything to do with combatting child abuse or trafficking. That is already a weird directiom.
That is probably true (not that i really have a good grasp on the state of internet pornography) but i remember past pushes doing that being wildly ineffective, a huge problem for privacy protection or both.
And considering this time it is not done via regulation but by the private sector itself, i am sceptical about how well it will go. And considering that the first post is about ebay forbidding hentai reselling, i fail to see how that has anything to do with combatting child abuse or trafficking. That is already a weird directiom.
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First they banned potions and spells, now hentai. What's next, taking away my ability to buy 'preowned' panties, human hair, or dangerous cheap Chinese electronics?
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The surface-level issue isn't as remotely as important, in my opinion, as what's going on under the hood. OnlyFans being the smoking gun on this.
Online payment processors are the competition to the major credit card companies. Porn is the economic titan nobody wants to admit exists, and audiovisual media and formatting follow the porn industry, rather than the inverse. It's ultimately why VHS prevailed over Betamax, and why Blu-Ray prevailed over HD-DVD; I'd even go so far as to posit the accessibility of PPV porn and porn channels on cable played a huge role in the prevalence of cable over satellite in the mid- to late-'90s when satellite television finally became cheap and accessible to homeowners, and probably played a key role in the prevalence of MPEG format over competing media formats during the '00s, downloaded or streaming, because most successful porn sites started streaming and uploading in MPEG.
Being able to control the porn industry is a hell of a lot of power over the entertainment industry at large.
In the meantime, social media-like and creator-driven sites like OF, MV, and certain cam sites are democratizing the industry in a way that's seriously challenging studio- and agent-driven porn -- companies that play ball with the major credit card companies -- and reaching out to payment processors that bypass the major credit card companies near-completely. That's a loss of a lot of economic control over the industry, and less money ultimately in the hands of the major corporations at play.
Which is ultimately what this is about. One needn't pay close attention to the porn industry to know damn well studios and agents are anything but clean, let alone after #MeToo when most women who do porn came forward with their own stories of exploitation and abuse at the hands of studio employees and execs, agents, and major talent -- not that anyone really seems to care about that, apparently. Which is why, within the industry, talent is embracing creator-driven platforms; they're able to work on their own terms, with talent of their choice, free from sexual predation, and at the end of the day make more money doing it.
That's kind of the key point, here: if the goal really is to curtail sexually exploitative and abusive behavior, why start with creator-driven platforms and not the porn studios? Because it's not about that, it's about to whom what money goes, and exercising economic power over an industry that dictates entertainment trends, and the people who work in it.
Which is how and why OF is dodging accountability -- by only accepting 3D Secure payment, they're guaranteeing their payments flow only through major credit card companies; a perfectly satisfactory arrangement for those companies.
That said, bigger surface-level picture: this is only an issue in the first place because sex is still taboo, and sex work is still marginalized and demonized by society at large. That makes it a breeding ground for predatory and abusive behavior, and restricting/prohibiting sex work further whilst consolidating power in the hands of a few highly-corrupt parties will only aggravate that. The only sustainable long-term solution that minimizes harm, is to embrace the industry's democratization, decriminzalize sex work, and normalize sex.
Case in point,
The two problems here, that are problems in and of their own right as opposed to being symptomatic, you mentioned are the two dealing with underage people who are unable to consent.
Revenge porn has power, because sex is still taboo, and the people who revenge porn near-exclusively targets -- women -- still face systemic misogyny. Normalize sex and eliminate the societal double standards towards sex and gender, and revenge porn loses its power. Solve for the root cause, not the symptom.
And likewise, sex trafficking happens because it's profitable. The comparison to illegal drugs and alcohol (during prohibition) is obvious: trafficking happens because it's illicit, not the other way round. Decriminalizing sex work undermines that profit motive, making forcible or coerced sex trafficking no longer worth the risk or associated cost -- so long as authorities don't treat decriminalization as tantamount to non-enforcement of human trafficking laws, which has been the issue in several states to have decriminalized sex work (especially in regards to those states being used as transit countries to other states in which sex work is still illegal).
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I feel like an opportunity was missed here. Eg
First they came for the potions and spells and I said nothing....
Well...yes...but normalising sex and getting rid of double standards is even less feasible than clamping down on revenge porn. And I'd argue that it wouldn't take all the power of revenge porn away.
I think it more has to do that people(women in particular) don't want their animalistic side exposed to society at large let alone parents, siblings or that one creepy neighbour. They probably feel they would lower in worth because of that. People have different sides to themselves which are often difficult to reconcile or even contradict themselves. We all put up a front when we interact with society and keep our true emotions and more bestial instincts hidden and I don't think this behavior is necessarily socially conditioned but rather that it served an important function when people started to live in large groups. It's so hardwired into our neurology that there will never not be a time that people won't feel embarrassed, ashamed or exposed when their most intimate desires are shared with the wider world. I think the primary reason for this is that it can't be reconciled with the carefully cultivated persona we pretend to be. And this is in the best case scenario where people actually recognize their inner desires and not suppress, deny, ignore or simply disown them. To 'normalize' sex would be for people to accept everything about themselves which I don't think will ever happen.
I think it's one of the reasons why porn is so popular. It's a way for people to live out their fantasies without fear of rejection, embarassment or exposure. Emotions that most people really want to avoid. As a result, on the problematic side it's probably a zero effort dopamine rush to alleviate loneliness with diminishing returns.
Yeah!!! Women are way too sensitive about being exploited and harassed and having private pictures and videos shown to the world and now we can't have nice things! Thanks Obama!
I'm not a woman and I really really don't want any footage of my sexy time or even solo nakedness being leaked to public places. It's just plain respect for privacy, not prudishness or some shit. Not all of one's life should be forced into public under the pretense of "liberation."
No, don't you see, my desire to whack it to exploitative pictures and videos of women outweighs their desire to not have those pictures and videos in public because, I dunno, free speech? It's not that I'm a degenerate who gets off on the abuse and exploitation of women it's just that I'm far more liberated than those prudish bitches who won't fuck me!
...you haven't been to a Denny's after 2am on a weekend, or many Black Friday sales, have you.
