Amouranth has admitted that she is making one million plus per month. Which is absolutely insane.
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I think the problem the people have in terms of the male viewpoint on this is as follows: They see men laughing because these girls will "have to get a real job now" which is basically acting like sex work isn't real work. So people pile shit on this opinion that call it toxic and whatever opinion they want.
However while yes, sex work is real work, the majority of these girls on Onlyfans aren't doing sex work. They aren't porn stars, they aren't fucking strangers for money, nor are they fucking professionals for money. Very very few of them are even doing masturbatory acts on Onlyfans. Most of these girls are just modeling and/or doing cosplay which isn't sex work. Being sexy is not the same thing as sex work. And hell most of the "cosplay" is just a wig with thematic underwear on, or less. You can't just put on a blue wig and say you're doing a "Sexy Bulma" cosplay.
There is actual work in modeling for sure. But let's not pretend that working from home and dieting, is the same thing as busting your ass in construction or dealing with the bullshit of working in an office cubicle with 7 different bosses coming up to your every single day asking about a report you finished 6 hours ago that they haven't bothered to look for.
Combine that with the sheer level of these girls crying about losing their income on social media and people are just going to laugh at them. "Congrats girl you made $100k/month showing your tits and because you are stupid with money you have no savings and a huge overhead and you just lost your job. Time to fill out applications."
That's really what it is. There is a lack of sympathy for these people who've made shitloads of money for what appears to be very easy nothing work, and now they've gotten fired for lack of a better term. That's why people laugh about the WNBA players crying poor because the men make so much more money, when they are still making $200K/year for playing terrible basketball. When you are making way more than the average income of an entire family, nobody is going to give a shit when you lost your "easy-overpaying" job.
However while yes, sex work is real work, the majority of these girls on Onlyfans aren't doing sex work. They aren't porn stars, they aren't fucking strangers for money, nor are they fucking professionals for money. Very very few of them are even doing masturbatory acts on Onlyfans. Most of these girls are just modeling and/or doing cosplay which isn't sex work. Being sexy is not the same thing as sex work. And hell most of the "cosplay" is just a wig with thematic underwear on, or less. You can't just put on a blue wig and say you're doing a "Sexy Bulma" cosplay.
There is actual work in modeling for sure. But let's not pretend that working from home and dieting, is the same thing as busting your ass in construction or dealing with the bullshit of working in an office cubicle with 7 different bosses coming up to your every single day asking about a report you finished 6 hours ago that they haven't bothered to look for.
Combine that with the sheer level of these girls crying about losing their income on social media and people are just going to laugh at them. "Congrats girl you made $100k/month showing your tits and because you are stupid with money you have no savings and a huge overhead and you just lost your job. Time to fill out applications."
That's really what it is. There is a lack of sympathy for these people who've made shitloads of money for what appears to be very easy nothing work, and now they've gotten fired for lack of a better term. That's why people laugh about the WNBA players crying poor because the men make so much more money, when they are still making $200K/year for playing terrible basketball. When you are making way more than the average income of an entire family, nobody is going to give a shit when you lost your "easy-overpaying" job.
That's kind of the second wave feminist analysis of porn. It rests on the assumption that there is something uniquely exploitative about sex work compared to any other form of labour under capitalism, which is a position which isn't very popular with the modern left. Like, yes, a lot of the modern porn industry is pretty bad and it would be good if it did not produce harmful products or exploit its workers, but you can delete "porn" in that sentence and replace it with almost any industry operating under capitalism. Is your average porn actress realistically doing more harm to society and the planet than your average McDonalds burger flipper? Also most people have come around on the idea that you can actually make porn which presents sex in an alluring way that doesn't objectify its participants and if you blanketly crack down on porn you'll also be cracking down on that which isn't very fair. Sex work is also a sector that has both historically and contemporarily employed marginalised people who have been unable to find employment else and cracking down on it will have a disproportionate impact on their ability to look after themselves.
Having been on the receiving end of that sort of attitude, people who think that can go fuck themselves.
Sure, but that's just how people work. It's a matter of optics, and a lot of times people will treat this as these girls and boys making onlyfans content "Getting knocked down a peg" or "Being brought back to reality."
It's not a healthy viewpoint, but that's what's happening. Plus sometimes watching someone flounder in a mess they made themselves is funny to people.
This dude has dived deep into investigating what has been going on over at Onlyfans. And I think they are worth a watch if you are interested for some people.
We aren't second wave radfems, generally speaking
Yeah, and that's shitty. It would also be shitty if Twitch decided that playing other people's video games for money was a breach of copyright law or counted as "public viewing" or something and cut off monetization, and I'd bet you'd fall on the other side of the "watching somebody flounder in a mess they made themselves" argument.
"Anti-trafficking organizations" that go after legit sex workers are evangelicals in disguise
Actually, no. I wouldn't. If Twitch shutdown tomorrow, I wouldn't feel bad for any of the "creators" that would suddenly be caught with their pants down.
I've said before that i think crowdfunding as your only source of income is a bad long term plan, because fanbases are fickle as fuck and while you might be okay for a couple of years eventually you will be a fart in the wind as that fanbase moves on for any number of reasons. So any of these streamers, onlyfans-ers, youtubers, whatever if they aren't diversifying their revenue, then they are gonna be fucked eventually.
With the exception of those that made millions and millions. Your Pewdiepie's, Ninja's, DrDisrespect's, Amouranth's, etc etc.
Speaking of Amouranth, despite the hit she will take by losing Onlyfans, she still makes shitloads of money on Twitch, and since she is rather smart and slick with how she makes money. Likely she'll move content to another site like Loyalfans or whatever and done deal.
I will also note, that Amouranth is not really complaining about the onlyfans changes, she doesn't complain about the twitch stuff either. When a policy changes she adapts and overcomes and that's what makes her the queen of the t.....nevermind. Where ever she ends up, many many will follow.
Ah, so it's only the smaller, low earners you're laughing at
I don't really laugh at anybody unless I see them making the same mistakes over and over again and expecting shit to change. Like DarksydePhil.
But I also wouldn't feel that sorry for anybody who got banned from Twitch for whatever reason, and then tried to cry about it. I'd just shrug and move on. Sucks to loose a job, but at the end of the day all you can do is go get a different job. Crying about it doesn't bring the job back does it?
How dare people publicly have emotions.
If only they complained about something worthwhile, like the body types on videogame characters.
I mean crying about breaking the rules is like crying about getting zapped when you stuck a fork into a light socket. So i dunno what to tell you.
I have no problem with people that did actual porn on that website. It was their business and there's a loan to do what jobs they wanted. As long as it wasn't a gray area situation or one of those cases where they're intentionally harming others or trying to hurt others, I don't care. With that said, it does come off as hypocritical for the website to be doing this. They are killing what made the huge money in the first place. That is where a lot of the problems lie for a lot of people. They're trying to please their mainstream corporate overlord investors. It stinks to high heaven.
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I'm just a live and let live kind of guy. It only becomes a problem when you're out to harm and kill others, or act like a big shit hole a to others for petty reasons.
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I'm glad this is getting more exposure, because it's sadly true, and people die because of it.
Because life is not black and white.
Broadly, I'd like to think that perhaps people would not feel the need to sell themselves with naked pics, and there are unhealthy aspects to it for creators and consumers alike. On the other hand there are unhealthy aspects to alcohol, fast food and being employed by Amazon - such is life. More to the point, as a liberal, I don't think prohibition is terribly useful or the right thing to do. So whilst I might in many ways regret aspects of pornography, the freedom of the creators and consumers to complete their "transaction" is a more important principle.
So accepting it is what it is and that people do have a right to sell themselves for other people's sexual gratification, I'd prefer they were able to do so in the least exploitative and safest manner possible. If a website such as OnlyFans is one of those least exploitative and dangerous ways then it should not be suppressed because the most likely result is more exploitation and harm.
omg, oh and thanks for the name...she hella hot
