Biden helps avert railway strike.

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Push may be coming to shove soon as the Senate rejects the "sick time" amendment. I have not seen yet at least if the Senate approved the unamended bill to force the workers to accept the initial deal.
 

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Push may be coming to shove soon as the Senate rejects the "sick time" amendment. I have not seen yet at least if the Senate approved the unamended bill to force the workers to accept the initial deal.
Several Rs voted in favor. Notably Manchin voted against. Cruz and Hawley are to the left of Manchin.
 
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and the update


So now to see how Pro-Worker Biden, who has said he would sign this to force the workers to not be allowed to strike, truly is

I'm gonna go ahead and guess Biden is gonna say "Fuck them workers" but I guess he could still surprise me
 
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So now to see how Pro-Worker Biden, who has said he would sign this to force the workers to not be allowed to strike, truly is

I'm gonna go ahead and guess Biden is gonna say "Fuck them workers" but I guess he could still surprise me
Didn't he already say "I'm pro-worker, but we must subdue the unruly peasants for the prosperity of the nation" or words to that effect in regards to this?
 

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Didn't he already say "I'm pro-worker, but we must subdue the unruly peasants for the prosperity of the nation" or words to that effect in regards to this?
Yes, he's already said he's Pro-Union but fuck these people because it would hurt the economy too much (since as we all know, the most effective strikes are the ones that don't inconvenience people)


Seanchaidh posted about it a few pages ago with The White House's statement
 
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To inspire more shocked pikachu faces:

The Senate has defeated the separate bill that would have added 7 sick days into the agreement dictatorially imposed working conditions.
 

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Do you not actually see the roadblocks between "Biden demands Congress give workers all their demands" and "the workers get all their demands met"? Big hint, it starts with a capital C.
Once again,

If Biden was really a "pro-labor president", then the way he would square the demands of workers with the unacceptability of a strike is by demanding Congress legislate that railway companies capitulate to every worker demand on pain of nationalization if the railway companies don't comply.
he would square the demands of workers with the unacceptability of a strike is by demanding Congress legislate
is by demanding Congress legislate
If Congress refused to legislate in such a manner, then counterfactual pro-labor Joe Biden would simply let the strike proceed until they did. Because doing anything else is not pro-labor.
 

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If Congress refused to legislate in such a manner, then counterfactual pro-labor Joe Biden would simply let the strike proceed until they did.
Fun fact: strikes can end without the laborers getting every demand.
 

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Fun fact: strikes can end without the laborers getting every demand.
Out of curiousity, are you trying to defend Biden here? Ok, in my timezone it's a friday, but I didn't know we were doing a freaky friday thing were people swap roles.
 
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Out of curiousity, are you trying to defend Biden here? Ok, in my timezone it's a friday, but I didn't know we were doing a freaky friday thing were people swap roles.
Not specifically defend Biden, though I certainly have less objection here than a communist does. I'm more intrigued by the level of delusion it takes to think "if Biden was pro-labor, the workers would get anything they wanted and there's no other possible end state."
 

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What the entire fuck are you complaining about? The "far left" in the USA doesn't have the power to organize a boycott of Chik Fil A let alone anything of actual value. The closest thing to "far left" we have in government is quibbling over giving rail workers a whole 7 sick days. It's pathetic.
Have you not fucking seen things getting branded as conspiracy theories and people being banned from speaking about them on several major platforms (Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, etc.) and then finding out those conspiracy theories are actually true 6 months or so later? You are still literally not allowed to say vaccines don't stop covid transmission when there's not a single study that says they do. Who do you think is coercing big tech to do this? Maybe the party that put together a Disinformation Governance Board...


Easily, watch. The far left is not insane, factually.
And no. Violence is the major threat to democracy. Whatever conspiracies you have about the "far left" being against free speech and stopping people from having an opinion are just that - conspiracies.
Meanwhile the far right is actually happening.
Its the difference between wildfires being caused by Jewish space lasers, and the founder of the Oath Keepers being found guiltily of sedition. One is real, the other is a Fox News talking point to get old people to panic buy survival seeds and donate to Ted Cruz.
You actually think some militia of citizens can overthrow the government? The US military that we spend more money on than like the next 7 countries combined can't stop a militia group?

Have you not been around the last few years where things deemed as conspiracy theories are being banned from being discussed on just about all major platforms, then find out like 6 months later that the "conspiracy theory" was true? To this very day, you can't say on Youtube that vaccines don't stop the transmission of covid even though not a single study says that they do. Also, why are people bitching about Russia interfering with US elections when information is not dangerous at all? Where was this Russian act of violence that allowed them to interfere with a US election (since only violence is dangerous)? There's several real world examples of how controlling information to the public greatly alters what people think and do, there's governments that do this. Since we're on a video game forum, have you not played Metal Gear Solid 2? The game literally predicted much of the state of today.
 

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Have you not fucking seen things getting branded as conspiracy theories and people being banned from speaking about them on several major platforms (Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, etc.) and then finding out those conspiracy theories are actually true 6 months or so later? You are still literally not allowed to say vaccines don't stop covid transmission when there's not a single study that says they do. Who do you think is coercing big tech to do this? Maybe the party that put together a Disinformation Governance Board...
Oh no, they might trick people into getting vaccinated against a debilitating and deadly disease, that's just like calling for armed insurrections.

Fucking hell, you have 6 threads about this shit, go whine into one of those
 

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Push may be coming to shove soon as the Senate rejects the "sick time" amendment. I have not seen yet at least if the Senate approved the unamended bill to force the workers to accept the initial deal.
How does it fail if the senate majority vote yes?
 

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How does it fail if the senate majority vote yes?
filibuster... which is based on the cloture rule which the Senate voluntarily imposes on itself (meaning it would only take a majority to abolish the filibuster if a majority of the Senate wanted to).
 
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Question. It has been a well known action of the Democratic party to staple various bills into one before bringing them for a vote. We've talked about this before numerous times, its been a talking point over and over again that people ask why the Dems couldn't split a bill up to get what they can passed.

Why did they suddenly change their MO here? And if your answer is "Because it would have been a disaster" then I'd like for everyone to go back and look at all the other bills that were not divided into parts and the times they argued that it was what they should do because it was "the only way to possibly get it through", or whatever, and then tell me if those other times just weren't "important enough".