Biden helps avert railway strike.

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Yeah both parties and the system itself it so deeply rigged against consumers amd workers. This isnt a party defined decision, its one theyre both on board with but one side is trying to work out how to improve the optics.

That's why I said strike/quit and let the country hit the shitter. Nothing short of a massive disaster is going to shift the policies which protect billionaires and corporations, while screwing workers and consumers. America is fundamentally broken in that regard.
 
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They're one of two capitalist political parties and they prioritized crushing the strike.
I would put it that it's just that they're a party in the government, politicians will cave when they themselves suddenly get put in the crossfire, but yes. Neither party look good from how this turned out and I hope everyone remembers what both of them did.
 
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As expected, Biden is signing the bill. Expected but disappointing

Also

"I have long been a supporter of paid sick leave for workers in all industries – not just the rail industry – and my fight for that critical benefit continues."

Fuck ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL the way off Biden. You don't get to say how you're a supporter of paid sick leave in the middle of cutting the legs out from the workers trying to get sick leave.
 

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You actually think some militia of citizens can overthrow the government? The US military that we spend more money on than like the next 7 countries combined can't stop a militia group?
Oh sweet summer child, you have no idea how deep the right wing goes.
Its not just militias. Those militias were in direct contact with the White House and the President. They were organized, working in concert with the Secret Service, the capital police, pentagon officials, members of congress, members of the military. You think they stormed the capitol without assurance from the military that they won't intervene? You think AOC and Nancy Pelosi's emergency buttons in their offices were removed before the riot by accident? You think continuity of government and who controls the nuclear football wasn't already planned out? You think bombs were planted in the capitol office buildings the night before in some completely unrelated event, by someone to this day still not identified?
They control the police, they control the courts, in most states they fully control the state government and the schoolboards and the election offices.
Its not just some militias with hardons for Stonewall Jackson. Its an organized, radicalized, militant tidal wave that is office by office, board by board, state by state, flooding the US.
 
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Oh sweet summer child, you have no idea how deep the right wing goes.
Its not just militias. Those militias were in direct contact with the White House and the President. They were organized, working in concert with the Secret Service, the capital police, pentagon officials, members of congress, members of the military. You think they stormed the capitol without assurance from the military that they won't intervene? You think AOC and Nancy Pelosi's emergency buttons in their offices were removed before the riot by accident? You think continuity of government and who controls the nuclear football wasn't already planned out? You think bombs were planted in the capitol office buildings the night before in some completely unrelated event, by someone to this day still not identified?
They control the police, they control the courts, in most states they fully control the state government and the schoolboards and the election offices.
Its not just some militias with hardons for Stonewall Jackson. Its an organized, radicalized, militant tidal wave that is office by office, board by board, state by state, flooding the US.
Do you have any evidence that the US military okayed the attempted coup? Or that the Right Wing was responsible for those panic buttons being removed?
Can you link to an article or articles that show Pelosi and AOC specifically had their panic buttons removed?
 
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You think AOC and Nancy Pelosi's emergency buttons in their offices were removed before the riot by accident?
They weren't removed from AOC or Pelosi's offices. They were removed from Ayanna Pressley's office. That might be what you're thinking of.
 

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Biden helped avert a railway strike that would have cost the US $2 billion a DAY.

Democrats need to hammer home the point that they're better for the economy in their campaign ads. Inflation and gas prices have gone down thanks to them, and they helped avert a railway strike that would have cost the country $2 billion a day.
So you've been very quiet about the latest developments. What are your thoughts on Biden and The Democrats latest actions to help to avert the railway strike?
 

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Oh no, they might trick people into getting vaccinated against a debilitating and deadly disease, that's just like calling for armed insurrections.

Fucking hell, you have 6 threads about this shit, go whine into one of those
Why are you for limiting information people can acquire and talk about?

Oh sweet summer child, you have no idea how deep the right wing goes.
Its not just militias. Those militias were in direct contact with the White House and the President. They were organized, working in concert with the Secret Service, the capital police, pentagon officials, members of congress, members of the military. You think they stormed the capitol without assurance from the military that they won't intervene? You think AOC and Nancy Pelosi's emergency buttons in their offices were removed before the riot by accident? You think continuity of government and who controls the nuclear football wasn't already planned out? You think bombs were planted in the capitol office buildings the night before in some completely unrelated event, by someone to this day still not identified?
They control the police, they control the courts, in most states they fully control the state government and the schoolboards and the election offices.
Its not just some militias with hardons for Stonewall Jackson. Its an organized, radicalized, militant tidal wave that is office by office, board by board, state by state, flooding the US.
Are you freaking serious? The right-wing people are basically Hydra? Talk about fucking conspiracy theories... May I introduce you to the Great Reset conspiracy?
 
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I mean have you watched any of the Jan 6th hearings? Hydra isn't a bad comparison honestly, its pretty spot on.
So with all these contacts and infiltrations to the very top levels of government and police and military and like the gift shop probably, the best they were able to do was muck around the Capitol building for a bit taking selfies and shit? And you're still worried they could overthrow the government after all these secret agents have been revealed and identified?
 

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So with all these contacts and infiltrations to the very top levels of government and police and military and like the gift shop probably, the best they were able to do was muck around the Capitol building for a bit taking selfies and shit? And you're still worried they could overthrow the government after all these secret agents have been revealed and identified?
Never underestimate the power of fools and lunatics, especially when they team up. I'm less afraid that they'll overthrow the government in a coup and more that they still occupy the halls of power at all.
 

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So with all these contacts and infiltrations to the very top levels of government and police and military and like the gift shop probably, the best they were able to do was muck around the Capitol building for a bit taking selfies and shit? And you're still worried they could overthrow the government after all these secret agents have been revealed and identified?
I think you don't get how close Jan 6th came to succeeding. It basically came down to 3 10-second events. Trump's driver refusing to drive him to the capitol and managing to keep Trump from hijacking his own car. Pence realizing he couldn't trust his own security detail and refusing to leave with them. And Officer Eugene Goodman distracting the mob long enough for Pelosi and a few others to escape.
Imagine if Trump had been leading to coup. Or if Pence was silenced. Or is Pelosi and Schumer were paraded around, hanging from their necks by the rioters.
Any one of those events takes place, Trump enables the Insurrection Act, cancels the election, orders the FBI to seize voting machines, and declares himself President indefinitely.
Like you don't seem to get how the coup barely failed. And don't think for a second they didn't learn from their mistakes.
 
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So with all these contacts and infiltrations to the very top levels of government and police and military and like the gift shop probably, the best they were able to do was muck around the Capitol building for a bit taking selfies and shit?
No: the best they were able to do was to get hundreds of congressional candidates for the midterms be election-deniers.
 

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Welp, the U.S. government has literally just made law which makes it illegal for railway workers to exercise their right to strike. I wonder how long it is before the government makes a law that makes it illegal for employees to strike in any and every industry in the whole of the United States? If this isn't struck down and fast that's exactly what this law has set a precedent for.
 

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Welp, the U.S. government has literally just made law which makes it illegal for railway workers to exercise their right to strike. I wonder how long it is before the government makes a law that makes it illegal for employees to strike in any and every industry in the whole of the United States? If this isn't struck down and fast that's exactly what this law has set a precedent for.
I mean, in fairness this is an old law. Reagan fired half of our air traffic controllers using it way back
 

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filibuster... which is based on the cloture rule which the Senate voluntarily imposes on itself (meaning it would only take a majority to abolish the filibuster if a majority of the Senate wanted to).
Isn't that when someone deliberately holds up the process by rambling on for hours? Who did it?
 

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Isn't that when someone deliberately holds up the process by rambling on for hours? Who did it?
They don't have to do that anymore. If the vote doesn't get to 60, I don't even know if an actual filibuster is even declared anymore or if it's just "assumed" that it's being filibustered. But either way, no one has to actually do work to do a filibuster, it just happens