This doesn't address what I said. I've not disputed that forced removal happened, and happened en masse. I've repeated that several times now.
Because those remaining are
The performative outrage all-caps doesn't address it either. This is just reiteration of how obscene the situation is, which is not in dispute.
What difference? What I'm watching here is apologia for ethnic cleansing. Downplaying an attempt to forcibly evict people from their land to take it. I'm watching someone try to steer a conversation away from talking about ethnic cleansing. Because it wasn't 160k people threatened, it was the whole of the Gaza strip. The Israeli media and leadership spent the last 15 months telling anyone who'd listen that they're going to steal all the land. They've already been selling parcels of land in the strip. And here you are, running interference. A humanitarian corridor would be ethnic cleansing and you're all here for it because it has that lovely little name and was being perpetrated by Biden/Harris. No, learn to have morals.
This is an outright, tiresome little lie. Absolutely nothing I've written here is downplaying what happened or offering apologia for it. Nothing. You're just flinging that accusation to try to end any discussion about escalation.
90+% of the Gaza strip was subjected to bombing, and 1.9m people were displaced. But I didn't say just 160k people were threatened or affected in some way. Stop rewriting what I'm saying to make it more convenient to respond to.
Yes, it's apologia. "Biden/Harris only killed or displaced 160k! If they opened a humanitarian corridor that's all they would have done!" The hell is wrong with you? The point of a humanitarian corridor would be to let all of them leave, and Israel and the US would be right behind them shoving them out. All 2.2m, that is literally the point. Quit being an apologist for ethnic cleansing, they were all being threatened. You're not worried about the people of Gaza, you're worried about how it looks. Biden/Harris's method of removing the Palestinians would let you keep going to brunch. Stop pretending like you actually care, it's laughable.
And any of this is justification for favoring the people who facilitated the earlier stages of this wave of mass murder and ethnic cleansing because..?
Still making shit up and ascribing it to me, then. I'm not offering speculation on 'counterfactuals' at all, though you seem intent to do so.
You believe the point of those evacuation corridors was to remove the entire population. After over a year, 94% of the population remained inside Gaza, and hundreds of thousands are returning after internal displacement. This isn't credible speculation.
What a bizarre thing to type.
? It's not.
YES. BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT ISRAEL IS TRYING TO DO AND BIDEN WAS RIGHT BEHIND THEM IN DOING IT. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT NOW WITH TRUMP. THIS WAS THE PLAN. THIS WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.
So to get the entire population to leave, America created... one or two small international evac routes that almost all of Gaza didn't/couldn't use?
America tried to create evac routes, but since Jordan and Egypt are smarter than you, they denied Biden's request. Which is good since over 1.9 million Gazans were shoved out of their homes and bombed. ~1.5 million were in Rafah. Imagine if 3/4 of Gazans had been expelled?
"Elect Kamala Harris and remand her and Biden to the Hague" seems a trifle counterintuitive.
Not really.
Whereas it's so much more likely that they'll see justice at the Hague now.
What we know of the proposal was that it involved one small corridor to Egypt, with a pretty low daily cap-- and then they dropped negotiating efforts for it after a month or two. If they planned to remove 2.2million people that way, they woefully underplanned, didn't they?
Yes, that's the scenario I'm afraid of, whereas you seem to be telling me it wouldn't be much of a difference.
That it is-- but let's not forget the role Britain played: making contradictory promises behind closed doors for short-term gain; taking over under authority granted by a distant, defunct organisation; then reneging on their deals and fucking off.
I'm sad we share the same air. I don't know what I can tell you at this point. Most if not all the population of Gaza was against the wall to Egypt with guns and bombs provided by the US in the single largest military action against the Palestinians in decades, and Biden tried to have them forcibly expelled. Those treaty talks were in March iirc, the ceasefire wasn't signed until January. At ~5000 people a day every day they could have drained 1.5 million people.
