Actually, the version I remember best, from my youth, is the rather more uptempo and angry cover by Adeva. But anyway.
Joe Biden announces Kamala Harris as running mate.
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Actually, the version I remember best, from my youth, is the rather more uptempo and angry cover by Adeva. But anyway.
Doesn't even have to die - just get half the Cabinet to agree with Harris that he's no longer capable and 25th amendment him.
Why, because it's an event that happened decades ago, described in a way that omits most details that could be used to corroborate it and the few present that potentially could don't? Because I could be describing the accusations against Biden or Kavanaugh equally there.
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No you couldn't, I already linked to a good article about this, I don't feel like getting into this again.
Probably because they have to balance a lot more factors. The more left wing needs to be kept on board but the more sizable center right faction can't be given excuses to flee to the Republicans. There's also wealthy donors to consider.
For the Republicans its so much simpler. Fuck the poor and convince the poor that those eeeevil liberals are the real danger so we can con them into voting for us.
Greetings, sweet summer child. I hope your name suits your character, given how discussions go here.
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They had much better candidates. I have the feeling they're running this to lose. Kamala got BTFO'd in the debates on her history with weed and prisons by the girl with the army record.
It's easy; the democrats can put up token resistance to Trump in the office and be declared heroes for it. Don't worry about fighting for Healthcare or Police Reform or Environment Issues or anything that will make their Corporate Donors unhappy; just tear up a speech every once in a while and you'll be hailed as a God for it.
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Ahh, the lefty, so dedicated to never winning anything and being the most pure being that ever pured a being. I understand being the voice of the opposition is fun, but winning is more fun and it lets you get a lot more done.
Those much better candidate aren't on the ticket because people didn't vote for them in the primary. Anyone can vote in the primary, if people didn't feel like voting for them in the primary, why would you think running any of the other candidate would have given the democrat a better chance when they couldn't even convince democrat to vote for them?
The election is won in purple state, most people understand that you need to pick someone whose going to win those state, winning New York with 51% of the vote or 95% of the vote is literally the same thing under the current election system. Doubling down on where you're already strong (and where the voter have the least political power/vote) is beyond stupid. Look at 2018 election and where democrat made gain (especially in state that Trump won in 2016), most of the candidate are closer to Biden/Harris than other candidate in the primary.
Because the Corporate Democrat tactic worked so well in 2016 that y'all decided to try it again.
But hey, VBNW, am I right? Even if they're a Republican with a D next to their name.
When we said that the bar was low to be better than Trump, that wasn't something the DNC was supposed to say "Challenge Accepted" to...
I feel like those two things are related, yeah democrats lost in 2016, but there's no reason to believe any other candidate would have won. Like you said, it's really easy to lose but claim that it's because <insert conspiracy> and that you'd totally have won the real election. Clinton lost 2016, Sanders would have lost 2016. The last UK election was practically a trial run of what a Sanders x Trump election would have looked like and the left got humiliated.
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The more you say stuff like that, the less I'm convinced you know what a republican is.
Harris is from California, though.
DNC is disgusting, I wouldn't judge the merits of candidates through their success in the DNC. I'd wager there's an inverse correlation.
To be fair Republicans don't even know what Republicans is...are. They change their cult creed and savior figure every 8 years
Not that I have any evidence against that argument, but you have no evidence for it, either. It's very possible a different candidate, Bernie or otherwise, could have won the 2016 election. Strategically, Hillary's loss was down to a couple hundred thousand votes distributed across several swing states. There are many, many factors that could have been different to have won that small a proportion of the vote in those states. Even Hillary could still have won it if she hadn't run a pretty bad campaign.
Well I guess we'll find out in November because The DNC is running the same exact playbook now as they did in 2016
Losing to a guy like Trump the first go around can be seen as a weird fluke. Maybe people bit on his "I'm an outsider, drain the swamp" bit. Maybe people liked that he wasn't a proper politician so maybe he could shake things up. Maybe it was people who have felt completely blown off by the democrats and figured "Fuck It, it can't get worse, let's roll the dice".
The DNC is not going to get those excuses this go around. Everyone now knows what a Trump presidency is now. I was kind of hoping losing to Trump in Round 1 was going to wake them up and make them realize they should stop going after Moderate Republicans and instead go after Progressives but clearly they've determined Moderate Republicans is their go-to audience. Half of me wants The Democrats to win because another four years of Trump is not going to be good but half of me also wants The Democrats to fall flat on their face and maybe finally wake the fuck up and realize that being Republican-Lite just isn't going to cut it anymore.
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Not really, they have been about less federal power, reduction of social programs, bringing back a more religious foundation, and less federal intervention in the market. For a good long time. Other aspects have shifted, but those fundamentals have been fairly consistent since the political shift happened.
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