California Wildfires - Thanks 2020

[Iron]

The 4chan response.

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Then grow a thicker skin.

I'm ok with this nonsense. BTW you're proving me right with the whole "woman's weapon" thing. Your tongue is dripping with venom.

 

[Buyetyen]

The 4chan response.

Yes, that was his response to other people in the thread disapproving of his boorishness. Since he complains while telling other people to grow a thicker skin, turning that reply back on him is meant to explicitly highlight the irony, nay hypocrisy of his situation.

 

[Agema]

I sense a thread locking a-coming.

 

[Buyetyen]

I'm ok with this nonsense. BTW you're proving me right with the whole "woman's weapon" thing. Your tongue is dripping with venom.

And you're proving us right that you're a thin-skinned misogynist who can't handle pushback.

 

[Aegix Drakan]

What's a hot take? This is something I read. It's a common trope, and repeats itself a lot. I see it as symbolic as well, since women can be very dangerous with "mental" poison. Women can't really threaten men physically so they found other ways to "level the playing field". There had been many examples of women puppeteering men to get their goals, whether it's their husbands or sons, throughout history. A couple of cool examples are Wu Zeitan from the far east and Julia (of the severan dynasty) from ancient Rome.
***https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marybeth_Tinning
This kind of stuff makes you question the validity of SIDS. Absolutely heart wrenching.

OOOOOKAY WOW.

Alright, you know, I feel like the best way to explain why this is a problematic thing to say (regardless of any historical accuracy) when talking about a person's attitude or argument, is to use a counter-example with the male gender.

Content warning for this counter-example: Violent sexual assault

Spoiler

So, say, for example, that someone compared an attitude you displayed or an argument you used, and then said it "reminded them of rape, a uniquely male weapon frequently used across all of history by men to forcibly dominate and assimilate other tribes, cities or points of view into their own by forcibly revoking their right to independence and by forcibly turning their victims into THEM to genocide their opponents out of existence without needing to win them over with the better argument.

Would you find it problematic to see your argument/attitude compared to that?

Would you feel like it is an attack specifically against men, designed to make it seem like men in general are all/mostly guilty of doing this?

If so, congrats, you understand why your take of comparing an argument/attitude to the crime of murder by poison is equally problametic

 

[Iron]

OOOOOKAY WOW.

Alright, you know, I feel like the best way to explain why this is a problematic thing to say (regardless of any historical accuracy) when talking about a person's attitude or argument, is to use a counter-example with the male gender.

Content warning for this counter-example: Violent sexual assault

Spoiler

So, say, for example, that someone compared an attitude you displayed or an argument you used, and then said it "reminded them of rape, a uniquely male weapon frequently used across all of history by men to forcibly dominate and assimilate other tribes, cities or points of view into their own by forcibly revoking their right to independence and by forcibly turning their victims into THEM.

Would you find it problematic to see your argument/attitude compared to that?

Would you feel like it is an attack specifically against men, designed to make it seem like men in general are all/mostly guilty of doing this?

If so, congrats, you understand why your take of comparing an argument/attitude to the crime of murder by poison is equally problametic

I don't find it problematic.
I didn't know B was a woman, nor did I attack B because she was a woman. I work under this assumption - Rule 29: On the internet men are men, women are also men, and kids are undercover FBI agents.

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***BTW only men can be rapists, since that's how rape is defined. Unless you take into account phallic objects, in which case, I'm wrong, and also, ew.

 

[Buyetyen]

I didn't know B was a woman, nor did I attack B because she was a woman.

No, we know. You said it because you're a misogynist. That's been established.

 

[Iron]

No, we know. You said it because you're a misogynist. That's been established.

I love women, women are beautiful, kind and loving.

 

[Buyetyen]

I love women, women are beautiful, kind and loving.

Those things are not mutually exclusive with misogyny. Lots of dudes who beat their wives also talk about how much they appreciate women's looks and expect them to raise the kids because manly men can't be kind and loving.

 

[Aegix Drakan]

I don't find it problematic.

Well, I find myself VERY taken aback and more than a little suspicious that you would actually be ok with it if someone actually and literally directly compared you or your argument to that.

***BTW only men can be rapists, since that's how rape is defined. Unless you take into account phallic objects, in which case, I'm wrong, and also, ew.

As a WEAPON, used to "breed out/genocide out" an opposing tribe, it really IS exclusively male.

Dildos can't be used to replace an entire generation with people just like you.

 

[Buyetyen]

Dildos can't be used to replace an entire generation with people just like you.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people walking around who could be charitably described as ambulatory dildos, but that's another conversation.

 

[Iron]

Those things are not mutually exclusive with misogyny. Lots of dudes who beat their wives also talk about how much they appreciate women's looks and expect them to raise the kids because manly men can't be kind and loving.

Men can be kind and loving. My father is very kind. I never hit a woman, and I don't plan on doing it.

Well, I find myself VERY taken aback and more than a little suspicious that you would actually be ok with it if someone actually and literally directly compared you or your argument to that.



As a WEAPON, used to "breed out/genocide out" an opposing tribe, it really IS exclusively male.

Dildos can't be used to replace an entire generation with people just like you.

You know you've used "raped and pillaged" at least once without noticing while thinking or talking about vikings and didn't stop to think about the use of the word "rape".
Oh I didn't think of that definition. True, dildos can't do that. If they did, women wouldn't need men.

 

[Buyetyen]

I never hit a woman, and I don't plan on doing it.

Didn't say you did. Just pointing out that misogyny is not inherently 1-dimensional.

 

[Aegix Drakan]

On the other hand, there are a lot of people walking around who could be charitably described as ambulatory dildos, but that's another conversation.

I mean...Yeah?

You know you've used "raped and pillaged" at least once without noticing while thinking or talking about vikings and didn't stop to think about the use of the word "rape".

Pretty sure I haven't done so ever since becoming adult enough to start employing critical thinking and understanding how vile and nasty rape is. Which was weeellllll over ten years ago at the very least?

Oh I didn't think of that definition. True, dildos can't do that. If they did, women wouldn't need men.

Speaking as an Asexual who only wants to date women for the cutesey romantic hand-holdy cuddly stuff? I would be totally ok with that.

 

[Eacaraxe]

I sense a thread locking a-coming.

Should I just go ahead and start a new thread debating the ethics of drone striking oligarchs? Because frankly, after I said my piece about wildfires being part of the ecosystem that's the only reason I came back.

 

[Gordon_4]

......Okay so back to the topic of said wild fires, is there any additional support incoming for the Californian fire services? I mean if we can’t send our lads again, what about other local teams?

 

[SupahEwok]

The 4chan response.

He's just trying to make Iron feel at home in his visit to our land.

 

[Mister Mumbler]

Well if it's any consolation, AZ has been burning pretty regularly since about the start of the pandemic, so there's that.

 

[Thaluikhain]

Shouldn't outright misogyny be against the forum rules or something? No?

There is such a thing as satellites with geosynchronous orbits, which means that their orbit matches the Earth's rotation and therefore remain in the same spot relative to the surface (for example, always over California).

Think you've equated geostationary with geosynchronous there (although geostationary is a form of geosynchronous, I guess)

 

[Agema]

Should I just go ahead and start a new thread debating the ethics of drone striking oligarchs? Because frankly, after I said my piece about wildfires being part of the ecosystem that's the only reason I came back.

Might need to go in the Off-Topic section unless you can find a recent source to back it up as "current events", but why the heck not?

Sometimes I think the world could do with a little bit of "targetted killing" of powerful people.