Another Incident in Portland

[Revnak]

There are 31 dead.

I'm saying 19 can be related to protests. Well 19 and 1 horse but want to take out the guy killed by and alleged (not confirmed yet) Boog then 18. Oh and weird howit was a carjacking just as things turned violent just in the area of the riots isn't it?

Also Chaz was literally supposed to be under protester control so yeh those deaths are on said groups hands as they wanted to control that area their way with no police.

Protester who was hit by a car
Edit- Also, what the fuck does “There are 31 dead, just 19 that are protest related” fucking mean? Who the fuck are the other 12? Twelve dead cancer patients? 12 COVID deaths? Who?

 

[Iron]

Got to say, a lot of those example of "people who died during the protests" is equivalent to saying "Bruce Lee died during the Vietnam War".
Technically true, false in every way that matters.

Like, if we're just counting "people who died prematurely in a city that also had a protest", we're at *way* past 31, *and* it doesn't matter

Same with how people who "died from covid-19" is equivalent to people who "died while there was a covid-19 pandemic"

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Same with how people who "died from covid-19" is equivalent to people who "died while there was a covid-19 pandemic"

Distinctly false. They just started counting COVID deaths kinda like they count flu deaths, except more strictly .

Most people don't actually know how they count flu deaths and were never curious to know why the flu deaths have such a wide spread. Like, if we counted flu deaths like morons want to count COVID deaths, then maybe 1000 people die of flu every year, instead of "between 24,000 and 62,000". Like, if you're counting deaths for a year, how the hell is your accounting so bad you go "43,000, plus or minus 19,000". The answer is "because the flu by itself doesn't kill very many people at all, but if the pneumonia or organ failure you get after kills you, the flu probably caused that"

 

[Revnak]

Same with how people who "died from covid-19" is equivalent to people who "died while there was a covid-19 pandemic"

Excess deaths compared to previous years typically exceeds the number of reported COVID deaths by a fair margin.

 

[Iron]

Excess deaths compared to previous years typically exceeds the number of reported COVID deaths by a fair margin.

I guess it's because of all the people that die in the protests.
For real though, the shutdown was insane. A lot of people killed themselves, became homeless and died because they couldn't get their basic needs.

Distinctly false. They just started counting COVID deaths like they count flu deaths.

Most people don't actually know how they count flu deaths and were never curious to know why the flu deaths have such a wide spread. Like, if we counted flu deaths like morons want to count COVID deaths, then maybe 1000 people die of flu every year, instead of "between 24,000 and 62,000". Like, if you're counting deaths for a year, how the hell is your accounting so bad you go "43,000, plus or minus 19,000". The answer is "because the flu by itself doesn't kill very many people at all, but if the pneumonia or organ failure you get after kills you, the flu probably caused that"

Most of the dead people are boomers 70+, or 50+ with a bad heart, diabetes or some form of bad chronic illness related to the lungs.
I remember before this shit escalated people blamed boomers for everything, now that you get the opportunity to have grandma's inheritance you gasp at the notion.

 

[Trunkage]

Got to say, a lot of those example of "people who died during the protests" is equivalent to saying "Bruce Lee died during the Vietnam War".
Technically true, false in every way that matters.

Like, if we're just counting "people who died prematurely in a city that also had a protest", we're at *way* past 31, *and* it doesn't matter

He seems to be adding everything from the same city and claiming its the protest fault. I see he's gone to the FBI school of counting that worked so well in the 60s

 

[Trunkage]

Excess deaths compared to previous years typically exceeds the number of reported COVID deaths by a fair margin.

I remember when we were told COVID was going to be as bad as the flu. So far, its 3 flus for 2/3 of the year. But, you know, all under control

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Most of the dead people are boomers 70+, or 50+ with a bad heart, diabetes or some form of bad chronic illness related to the lungs.
I remember before this shit escalated people blamed boomers for everything, now that you get the opportunity to have grandma's inheritance you gasp at the notion.

Same as flu deaths, yeah.

Just because edgy jokes are funny doesn't mean I actually want people to die. I'm not a monster. And outside Herman Cain and a handful of preachers, COVID isn't killing the type of boomers that actually have power,

 

[dreng3]

I remember when we were told COVID was going to be as bad as the flu. So far, its 3 flus for 2/3 of the year. But, you know, all under control

3 flus for 2/3 of the year except infections are still rising.

 

[Iron]

Same as flu deaths, yeah.

Just because edgy jokes are funny doesn't mean I actually want people to die. I'm not a monster. And outside Herman Cain and a handful of preachers, COVID isn't killing the type of boomers that actually have power,

I'm under the impression that ambrosia exists.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Protester who was hit by a car
Edit- Also, what the fuck does “There are 31 dead, just 19 that are protest related” fucking mean? Who the fuck are the other 12? Twelve dead cancer patients? 12 COVID deaths? Who?

People shot or killed by those outside of the protest as such where the protests / Riots were the direct cause

He seems to be adding everything from the same city and claiming its the protest fault. I see he's gone to the FBI school of counting that worked so well in the 60s

Oh so the protest happening there at the time and rioting happening has nothing to do with it and history doesn't matter only where the main focus of protests and riots are now?

 

[Trunkage]

3 flus for 2/3 of the year except infections are still rising.

And there was some lockdown. It could have been more

And Cuomo a legit murder of old people. He is responsible for like 20k of them because of his stupid 'put Covid patients into retirement villages'

 

[Revnak]

People shot or killed by those outside of the protest as such where the protests / Riots were the direct cause

Then where are the other 12???

 

[Trunkage]

Oh so the protest happening there at the time and rioting happening has nothing to do with it and history doesn't matter only where the main focus of protests and riots are now?

You legit put on there someone who blew themselves up and a car accident. Forgive me for ignoring some of these deaths. And be exasperated at your exaggerations just to make something look worse than it is

Like, 10(ish) people is pretty bad. Making stuff up just wastes people's time.

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

Then where are the other 12???

Shot by Police
Shot by store owners as they tried to loot the places.
You get the picture.

You legit put on there someone who blew themselves up and a car accident. Forgive me for ignoring some of these deaths. And be exasperated at your exaggerations just to make something look worse than it is

Like, 10(ish) people is pretty bad. Making stuff up just wastes people's time.

During looting as he tried to blow own an ATM with a home made explosive............it's not my fault the rioters and looters are ending up as much a danger to themselves as to other people.

 

[Seanchaidh]

The point it to make a inspiring yet insipid remark and contribute fuck all to the discussion.

Very interesting just how offensive the idea of peaceful revolution is to you. Your posts aren't those of someone interested in understanding history or how it should inform present politics, but rather have a single overriding concern: shutting down any hope of justice for the people who actually do the work that makes society possible.

 

[Iron]

Very interesting just how offensive the idea of peaceful revolution is to you. Your posts aren't those of someone interested in understanding history or how it should inform present politics, but rather have a single overriding concern: shutting down any hope of justice for the people who actually do the work that makes society possible.

Who built your computer? your phone?
Who made the clothes on your back?
Who farmed the food you ate?
The people who actually do the work that makes society possible have had their jobs move overseas. Your ideology is obsolete.

 

[Trunkage]

During looting as he tried to blow own an ATM with a home made explosive............it's not my fault the rioters and looters are ending up as much a danger to themselves as to other people.

I dont disagree with him being an idiot. I was disagree with the notion that he should be counted with the protesters 'kills' and not placed into a category of looter/rioter

 

[lil devils x]

People shot or killed by those outside of the protest as such where the protests / Riots were the direct cause



Oh so the protest happening there at the time and rioting happening has nothing to do with it and history doesn't matter only where the main focus of protests and riots are now?

Protests are not the cause of someone else doing a bad thing at or near them. Protests are a protected right. Blaming the protest is like blaming the concert for people doing bad things at or near the concert. People have died at concerts, that is not the concert's fault.

 

[Iron]

Protests are not the cause of someone else doing a bad thing at or near them. Protests are a protected right. Blaming the protest is like blaming the concert for people doing bad things at or near the concert. People have died at concerts, that is not the concert's fault.

" People have died at concerts, that is not the concert's fault." - Actually it is, they have a legal liability.