Burning the Quran in Norway, Sweden - Racism and Islamophobia Rampant in Europe
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Didn't like 85 from the youth camp die in that attack or were the rest adults?
Legally speaking there isn't. That's the double-edge sword of free speech. Anyone can call for peace and love, and anyone else can call them a pussy fag damned to hell. That's just the way of things.
Now this is Europe we're talking about, so I'm sure there are laws, because they don't really have freedom of speech, at least not in the way an American would be familiar with.
Look as much as I find it distasteful to burn any holy book, its their property. If they bought a Quran to use it for kindling for a camping trip, that's their right. Its their property. And I would be very very VERY hesitant to open the can of worms that is letting any group, religious, secular, political or otherwise being able to control someone's property rights, based off what they as a group find offensive.
The only things I grabbed when my apartment building was on fire was my cats, my photo album, my purse and my computer. But that was all I could grab before I had to sit in my neighbors boat across from my apartment in the parkinglot and watch a waterfall coming out of the apartment directly above mine knowing everything in my place was now under water. The fire department was really bad ass though. They took all my stuff and threw it on my couch and tarped it B4 they flooded me, they did the same in the bedroom putting everything on my bed. The furniture was lost but at least they saved all my collectibles and games <3. I brought them food a couple of weeks later to thank them. There is a reason why girls are crazy about firemen. XDMost of what I hold dear is people, who are tangible and ephemeral. So yes, I would object with over the top violence if someone tried to set them on fire. If someone tries to set fire to a copy of a book I like I'm just going to roll my eyes and call them an idiot.
As for sacred personages, well, here's my Holy Trinity
The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit
None of them would approve with rioting because of the burning of a text by a moron who's only goal is to upset me. They would be most disappointed with me indeed.
no worries, I have trouble doing that too when I try to switch between Hopi, English, French and Spanish. Words and grammar start getting all screwed up because they don't mean the same thing. If I get off the phone from talking to my family then try to speak or write it comes out all weird because my brain won't switch. haha!
Maybe he meant to say that he moved TO Sweden FROM a former Soviet country (instead of using "to" both times) which would explain A) His errors with the language, B) the cost of living, C) His use of "former Soviet country" instead of "Eastern Europe"
That one simple change could explain everything, no? Or would it create a greater contradiction somewhere else?
Or was that your (English) mistake in using the word "to" both times instead of "from"?
I've heard a lot about violence and crimes committed by migrants in European countries. What's been your experience on your country? Not necessarily your personal experience, just, what do you see on the news and what do you hear about? Is there a lot of violence? A little? Bombings? Rape?
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I've luckily never had to deal with extremists. I mean, my mom made us go to church every sunday till we were twelve, but that's about as extreme as it got in my household. And every interaction I've had with people of the Islamic faith was always very respectful from their side (and from mine obviously). But that doesn't change that I'm just really not a fan of some of these practices.
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See that is a fine line though due to the fighting words doctrine even in the US. The courts ruled that calling a woman a hussy and a whore was not free speech. Depending on the judge you get it goes back and forth. Honestly though they should just deem behaving that way as fighting words and be done with it because if you are saying something that you deserve to be punched in the nose for then no it should not be legal. Due to too much politicization of the courts though they allowed more than they ever should have. Screaming racial slurrs at people is no more productive than screaming fire in a theatre or in an airport and only serves to incite violence.
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It's fine, I sometimes talk to myself too, I'm also known to talk with food.
But what defines fighting words?
Anti-Abortionists believe its baby murder so in their minds saying you're pro-abortion is saying pro-baby murder. Or what if you're an abortion doctors? To them you're admitting to baby murder - is that fighting words?
Vegans can believe all animal consumption is violent abuse of an animal. What if they define ordering a steak as fighting words?
See what I mean? Lots of people can define 'thems fightin' 'herds' to mean whatever they want, and arguing its discrimination they aren't being legally recognized.
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Well be careful with those, thumbnails are known for being duplicitous.
The Romani people engage in flying planes into skyscrapers then??? You think the reason is just racism right after talking about something the other groups you listed haven't done???
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Was tempted to bring this up myself but I don't know Iron well enough yet to really know what their beliefs are.
What sweet nothings do you whisper into the burrito before you eat it?