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Considering how big their egos are, why do the Californians and the rest of the west coast not secede from the union? Questions, questions, questions.
Because seceding talk is for dumbass rednecks. United We Stand, Divide We Fall. Isn't that how it is supposed to go here?

It is ironic though that the seceding talk always comes from the side that claims to be "patriotic". They claim their opposition "hate" this country when in reality their opposition are the ones who love the people in their nation enough to actually try and fix it and take care of the nations people, rather than try to cut and run. A Nation is nothing without it's people.

A president willing to cause harm to his nations own people is violating his duty of office to protect and uphold the welfare of the people, ALL people, even the ones who didn't vote for him. A president that fails to do so is unfit for office.
 

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Considering how big their egos are, why do the Californians and the rest of the west coast not secede from the union? Questions, questions, questions.
Spector be better than that. Don't fall into the hole of "stupid elitest west coast libruhl" and if you are in their deep I will give your a a rope.

Also seceding is stupid. And why ware you willfully ignoring that a president is cutting funding on threat of political affiliation. If this was a "leftist" or a democrat I bet you would be appalled but guess you drew your line in the sand without saying out loud to deny your self plausibility.
 

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Spector be better than that. Don't fall into the hole of "stupid elitest west coast libruhl" and if you are in their deep I will give your a a rope.

Also seceding is stupid. And why ware you willfully ignoring that a president is cutting funding on threat of political affiliation. If this was a "leftist" or a democrat I bet you would be appalled but guess you drew your line in the sand without saying out loud to deny your self plausibility.
You're right. I've been getting far too aggravated lately. The debates over the last week have really gotten to me. I need to take a break from the Current Events forum for a while.
 

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Eh, high speed mag lev trains are cooler.
High speed rail typically cannot cover its own operating expenses and pay off its initial investment. I used to be a fan, and did some research for my capstone project, which was developing a suitability model for a high speed rail line route. Long story short, a network doesn't really attract long-distance passengers outside of the 2-5 hour car ride range: going further, air travel is more cost efficient and quicker, and going closer, people prefer to drive, although note that this is about long distance travel and not in-city.

So a national network for something the size of the US isn't really economically viable. Regional networks look to be the best opportunity for high speed rail lines, and several such projects have been proposed in the US and mothballed from various political pressures and undercuts. Texas still has a project ongoing for a line between Houston and Dallas; it was held up for a while in court (there were legal arguments about whether the project had the right of eminent domain to secure land for the line through private property), but it looks like an appellate court ruled in the line's favor back in May, and the environmental review went through, so it should be clear for construction.

The Texas project can be a proof-of-concept to inspire other projects in the US, perhaps for the Northeast, California, and Florida (all of which have had such projects in the recent past, which went... off the rails).
But your point was whether it was free or not. It's not. Someone's paying for it.
And your point was that they provide government like services, and are therefore just as deserving as government bucks as government entities are.

Quid pro quo, habeus corpus, ergo proctor sum, etcetera.
 
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High speed rail typically cannot cover its own operating expenses and pay off its initial investment. I used to be a fan, and did some research for my capstone project, which was developing a suitability model for a high speed rail line route. Long story short, a network doesn't really attract long-distance passengers outside of the 2-5 hour car ride range: going further, air travel is more cost efficient and quicker, and going closer, people prefer to drive, although note that this is about long distance travel and not in-city.

So a national network for something the size of the US isn't really economically viable. Regional networks look to be the best opportunity for high speed rail lines, and several such projects have been proposed in the US and mothballed from various political pressures and undercuts. Texas still has a project ongoing for a line between Houston and Dallas; it was held up for a while in court (there were legal arguments about whether the project had the right of eminent domain to secure land for the line through private property), but it looks like an appellate court ruled in the line's favor back in May, and the environmental review went through, so it should be clear for construction.
Fuck you I love trains.
 

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I think we all could, or at least cut down on certain topics a bit.
I think I'm going to focus on the Rittenhouse shooting and just back out of all the other topics, at least any in depth discussion. My comment about California is clearly me just being nasty and petty for no good reason. I've been burning myself out on this for too long.

 

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Another example of how Trump can only see the world in terms of transactions. "You want me to do my job? Do me a favor first."
 

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That one seems like a legal mess with no clear end in sight and no conclusions to be drawn. I'd hold off on him until we get some legal experts on the case.
FWIW, legal experts are going to fall on all sides of anything because lawyers have political and legal ideologies too. I'd be shocked if I came across a lawyer who didn't have a particular case or legal doctrine they vehemently disagreed with (my big one is a lack of strict liability for damages due to firearms). When your job is being able to see all sides of a situation and pick your strongest path to victory in litigation (or need to make consequences as predictable as possible in the case of transactions), being able to argue what can appear ludicrous to some is just part of the profession.

Now, good lawyers can usually guess what the outcomes are based on probability, past cases, law, and a bit of gut, but even then they can be wrong.
 

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FWIW, legal experts are going to fall on all sides of anything because lawyers have political and legal ideologies too. I'd be shocked if I came across a lawyer who didn't have a particular case or legal doctrine they vehemently disagreed with (my big one is a lack of strict liability for damages due to firearms). When your job is being able to see all sides of a situation and pick your strongest path to victory in litigation (or need to make consequences as predictable as possible in the case of transactions), being able to argue what can appear ludicrous to some is just part of the profession.

Now, good lawyers can usually guess what the outcomes are based on probability, past cases, law, and a bit of gut, but even then they can be wrong.
I guess that's why it is easier being a defense lawyer than a prosecutor, reasonable doubt is easier when you just need to poke holes and sow doubt.

Still, my recommendation to avoid the case until the defense and prosecution presents their arguments is something I will stand by. Playing amateur lawyer is far too easy these days, but since we lack the knowledge of precedent and interconnectivity of the law we often fall into the trap of absolute certainty.
I can easily make a case for why the young man should be charged with murder, but I have no evidence that such a thing would hold up in court, however it seems an entirely rational interpretation of the law to me. (Lending or selling a firearm to a minor is a felony in Wisconsin, which makes the young man an accomplice which in turn opens him up to the felony murder rule).

And then there are those who think they know the system, I had to read a fair bit before it became clear to me that possessing a firearm while under age is not a felony in Wisconsin, it is a misdemeanour. That confused me because it seems like something that should be treated much worse. Of course it doesn't help that the US changes laws on a state by state basis and what is a felony or crime in one state might not be in another.
 
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I guess that's why it is easier being a defense lawyer than a prosecutor, reasonable doubt is easier when you just need to poke holes and sow doubt.
It's not helpful that the US justice system fetishizes debate and narrative. Anatomy of a Murder skewered the whole system by making it explicit that the lawyers weren't concerned with right and wrong, they were competing to tell a better narrative.
 

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It's not helpful that the US justice system fetishizes debate and narrative. Anatomy of a Murder skewered the whole system by making it explicit that the lawyers weren't concerned with right and wrong, they were competing to tell a better narrative.
I mean... this isn't a new thing for America. Britain and Rome also have/had this issue. This is yet another unfortunate example of human nature.