Another Incident in Portland
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Literally every reply to the post you found is Alt-Right dude’s celebrating the guy dying. Account’s a fake.
lel I should have known
Feds got him. This happens when local law enforcement refuses to do their jobs. They caught and released him after the shooting.
I've read the article from 1974. Judging by the fact that you're using it to back up a claim that it doesn't really support, I'm starting to doubt if you have.
The man who has since been executed by cops shared his perspective in an interview with Vice, and here it is in text:
www.vice.com
Man Linked to Killing at a Portland Protest Says He Acted in Self-Defense
"I could have sat there and watched them kill a friend of mine of color. But I wasn't going to do that."
www.vice.com
They are if he was shooting back at them.
Well they're meant to try to subdue him but if that's not possible they go for kill him to stop him harming officers or others.
1) Not Cops, Federal Agents. The Cops had nothing to do with it this timeThe man who has since been executed by cops shared his perspective in an interview with Vice, and here it is in text:
Man Linked to Killing at a Portland Protest Says He Acted in Self-Defense
"I could have sat there and watched them kill a friend of mine of color. But I wasn't going to do that."
2) It's not an execution if he dies in a firefight of his own making. It's an execution if you walk up to a Trump supporter, pull a gun and shoot them in the chest when they're not visibly armed.
3) Either Vice ratted the guy out or his Lawyer did after this interview lol.
I think the "lol" is a little callous. But besides that, I don't think the feds should've rolled up in unmarked SUVs, especially not when dealing with someone who might be paranoid and armed. I do however agree that the man himself should not have initiated a firefight and that his death, while tragic, might have been rendered unavoidable by his own hand.
The interesting thing in the parallel with the other story to me is that this guy didn't surrender himself to the cops. The kid who shot two people did.
Makes you wonder why one of them would not feel like surrendering himself. Maybe because it wasn't self-defense.
But yeah overall it sucks they ended up shooting him. Now we won't know what triggered the shooting from his perspective.
Makes you wonder why one of them would not feel like surrendering himself. Maybe because it wasn't self-defense.
But yeah overall it sucks they ended up shooting him. Now we won't know what triggered the shooting from his perspective.
One believed that police had the right to kill people opposing police brutality, the other didn't. If you operate under the assumption that police is always in the right, regardless of how many people they unlawfully kill, surrendering to them is an obvious choice, if you don't it is another matter entirely.
Ok so since one of them died and the other didn't, I hope now we can see what is the right attitude to have after you've shot people.
It’s entirely possible the lawyer said not to turn himself in since it’d hurt his case, because it would. Any admission of any sort of guilt hurts your chances of winning in court.
That doesn't sound like it makes sense when there's a warrant out for you. Being a literal fugitive hurts your case way more. That would only make sense in some sort of minor dispute.
He wasn’t listed as a person of interest in the case yet and the warrant went out the day they killed him I think (based on a hazy memory of the article at this point).
As Bertrand Russell said about war "It doesn't determine who is right. Only who is left."
I don't know if the Portland fellow was in the wrong, I certainly hope he wasn't. I do believe that the Wisconsin kid was wrong. But in the end only one of the will have the chance to explain his case. What I do know is that you're equivocating someone the police have shown clear support for with someone whom the police have not. The Portland man had no reason to believe that he would receive a fair treatment from the police. And while that does not excuse his actions it might explain them.
He brought a gun to a protest and was “security” for the peace police, he was in the wrong.
My bias is definitely showing, but since I don't know all the facts of the matter I'm just going off of what little information that I do have. I'd need to look more into the peace police before making any actual judgement calls.
USA
SO are these guys like all lives matter or are they like supposed to be some sort of public relations group for the cops or something? I have never heard of this.