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So, apparently, some newspapers are being blocks so they cant deliver


Which... did anyone tell them they've got online stuff? This is only going to effect really old people who don't know what an interweb is

Not suprisingly, it's over climate change

Anyway, Murdoch is trash. He owns 75% of the media in my country and it shows. I wish he would retire and stop influencing politics so much... but apparently his son is much worse. So buckle up everyone.

I also wish he never met Reagan because apparently he was a nice guy before he met that president
 

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I also wish he never met Reagan because apparently he was a nice guy before he met that president
I don't think he's ever been a nice guy. I think he has ruthlessly pursued power and wealth, with very little care for whether he or the people he has allied with have done the world any good, for lot longer than 40 years. I doubt he believes in a great deal else.
 

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I think the Sun sells like a million copies a day or something.
Isn't that like a tabloid? THAT many people seriously read tabloids? WHY?! What is wrong with these people?!
 

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I don't think he's ever been a nice guy. I think he has ruthlessly pursued power and wealth, with very little care for whether he or the people he has allied with have done the world any good, for lot longer than 40 years. I doubt he believes in a great deal else.
I didn't either believe it either til I heard this


He's a relatively pro-Whitlam guy but worked for Murchdoch before helping Whitlam and Fraiser. Later in the interview he describes the shift Murdoch had during the 70s. He doesn't necessarily disagree that Murdoch wasnt ruthless but it took on a whole new dimension around 1980s
 

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Is that really so different from most internet articles these days?
Many internet articles are more like newspapers

Alot of articles are like the tabloids. Just making shit up. We have dissected the internet yet into usually well sourced and terribly sources articles

But... having Fake News has been a problem for over century. Most people don't want facts
 

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Full context for those not from the UK.

The UK has incredibly weak press regulation laws. The British legal concept of free speech is heavily slanted towards protecting newspapers, and thus there's enormous unwillingness to impose any kind of limitations on what newspapers are allowed to print or say. The body which regulates newspapers, the press complaints commission, is voluntary, has no legal powers and has extremely close ties to media corporations which essentially make it a useless. Everyone knows its a joke. A government report from 10 years ago found that it was a joke, but noone's done anything about it because, again, free speech.

The result is British media is both hugely powerful within UK politics, and infamously unethical. There is no real distinction in UK print media between opinion and factual information. Anonymous sources are used routinely. No institutional changes have been made to prevent newspapers from obtaining information illegally, and in the rare cases newspapers are asked to apologise for things they have said, they are typically allowed to bury the apology. Manufactured stories or "rolling narratives" are a problem in all news media now, but in the UK it's endemic and has clear political consequences.

Additionally, the majority of print news media in the UK is heavily right-leaning.

The result is that there is a very deep counter-cultural resentment in the UK towards the newspaper industry, and particularly towards the Murdoch group which is essentially seen as embodying all the worst tendencies of the UK print media. It's been building for a long time, and I suspect long term it's going to necessitate some kind of press regulation. The problem, again, is that this challenges this quite deeply held idea of free speech as it exists in the UK, which is also I suspect that's why it's taken so long for anyone to go after newspapers directly. But I would anticipate a lot more of this from now on.
 

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The result is British media is both hugely powerful within UK politics, and infamously unethical. There is no real distinction in UK print media between opinion and factual information. Anonymous sources are used routinely. No institutional changes have been made to prevent newspapers from obtaining information illegally, and in the rare cases newspapers are asked to apologise for things they have said, they are typically allowed to bury the apology. Manufactured stories or "rolling narratives" are a problem in all news media now, but in the UK it's endemic and has clear political consequences.
Sounds just like our media outlets in the USA.
 

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So, apparently, some newspapers are being blocks so they cant deliver


Which... did anyone tell them they've got online stuff? This is only going to effect really old people who don't know what an interweb is

Not suprisingly, it's over climate change

Anyway, Murdoch is trash. He owns 75% of the media in my country and it shows. I wish he would retire and stop influencing politics so much... but apparently his son is much worse. So buckle up everyone.

I also wish he never met Reagan because apparently he was a nice guy before he met that president
It's stinky rebellion doing stuff as a stunt again eh? This will only real harm those who are not in a position to have internet for various reasons and rely on such papers.

I'm guessing this will happen a few more times now they know where the stuff gets printed because they can.

At least this time they weren't trying to glue themselves to public transport or an electric powered campaign bus.


I think the Sun sells like a million copies a day or something.
Best news is always on page 3


It's the most tabloid of tabloids. It wasn't that long ago that the Sun had topless models on page 3.
They still do they got rid of them long enough for the storm to blow over of people being angry about it and then brought them right back again.

Sounds just like our media outlets in the USA.
Well other than the UK very left wing publications mostly died out due to awful sales or abandoned print for online due to them instead of becoming clickbait farms like some USA ones seem to have become.
 

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And the point is?

Shutting down the Sun won't stop climate change. At this point, there's not much that can.
 
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If there is only one political goal of mine that could be implemented let it be this. No more Anglo newspapers.