Trump admits to Bob Woodward that He Knew How Deadly Covid-19 was back in February of this Year.

[Nick Calandra]

Yea, I have to wonder if it would have made those people storming the court house protesting masks would have maybe rethought doing so, but then again, Trump encouraged them and cheered them on KNOWING the actual risks involved. We did have leaks early on though coming out that said that Trump was aware of how dangerous it was and I wonder if those didn't actually come from Woodward since they were anonymous. That wasn't as effective as actual recordings, but it was being leaked to the public at the time, people just are not really listening to any of the leaks, or anything that his own staff are telling us and pretending it isn't real or something. "Willful ignorance" is difficult to cure.

It would have been better if Woodward would have released them when he was actually finished gathering information from Trump then let his book release whenever they were done separately. Sales would have been the same. I have a feeling this is part of " the parade of officials speaking out " that Trump's former Chief of Staff for the Department of Homeland Security, Miles Taylor, told everyone that was coming in " coming weeks" . This may just be one of many they chose to wait until right before the election to release. With how many of Trumps own " best people" who have spoken up though, is it really going to make a difference? So many people defend him regardless of what his own people say he is doing, even when they hear him say it or see him do it themselves.

I live in a pretty evenly spread right / left county in Missouri right outside of Kansas City. Hell, there's people in my apartment complex that are conservative that I've talked to quite a bit about a myriad of political subjects and even they are fed up with Trump. I think people's minds are changing.

Want evidence of that? Look at Iowa. A derecho just ravaged the state and nobody batted an eye. They have gotten very little support and that thing was basically a Cat 2 hurricane that ripped through the state and did so much damage to crops you can see it from space. What did Trump do to help? He flew there, talked to someone in an aircraft hanger for 30 minutes and then left. He didn't even go survey the damage. That was it, and I know a lot of people in Iowa, especially farmers, and they are NOT happy about it.

He's basically screwed farmers at every turn, especially with the stuff going on in China. I used to see Trump signs all the time driving from my house in Nebraska back to college in Missouri. These days, not so much.

 

[lil devils x]

I live in a pretty evenly spread right / left county in Missouri right outside of Kansas City. Hell, there's people in my apartment complex that are conservative that I've talked to quite a bit about a myriad of political subjects and even they are fed up with Trump. I think people's minds are changing.

Want evidence of that? Look at Iowa. A derecho just ravaged the state and nobody batted an eye. They have gotten very little support and that thing was basically a Cat 2 hurricane that ripped through the state and did so much damage to crops you can see it from space. What did Trump do to help? He flew there, talked to someone in an aircraft hanger for 30 minutes and then left. He didn't even go survey the damage. That was it, and I know a lot of people in Iowa, especially farmers, and they are NOT happy about it.

He's basically screwed farmers at every turn, especially with the stuff going on in China. I used to see Trump signs all the time driving from my house in Nebraska back to college in Missouri. These days, not so much.

I hope you're right. The thought of 4 more years of this* is well beyond worrisome, as I know far too many who will not even survive his policy plans for that length of time. *Actually much worse than "this" because Trump won't even have to pretend he is going through the motions of fake helping anymore by that point since he will no longer be worried about losing votes, and will just go full blown attack on those already struggling with his promised "shock and Awe" his own staff says is coming second term. From the sound of his plans for second term from his staff, it looks like a full blown attack on the lower and middle class that are already struggling right now and that is terrifying. How some of these guys are actually happy about cuts to food, housing, medicaid, social security, healthcare and more is beyond baffling to me.

 

[Eacaraxe]

Want evidence of that? Look at Iowa. A derecho just ravaged the state and nobody batted an eye. They have gotten very little support and that thing was basically a Cat 2 hurricane that ripped through the state and did so much damage to crops you can see it from space. What did Trump do to help? He flew there, talked to someone in an aircraft hanger for 30 minutes and then left. He didn't even go survey the damage. That was it, and I know a lot of people in Iowa, especially farmers, and they are NOT happy about it.

Because it's dumbass back-and-forth gotcha crap that represents a no-win scenario for presidents that's been around since...what, hurricane Hugo? It's more kayfabe crap, who gives a shit, let alone when the press couldn't be arsed to give two shits about the derecho to raise public awareness of it in the first place. But that's what happens when you live in flyover state corn land.

President does visit. President's hit in opposition press for making photo ops and taking attention and money away from search, rescue, and relief. President's defended in friendly press for demonstrating leadership or whatever.

President doesn't visit. President's hit in opposition press for hiding, failing to show leadership, and not caring about people. President's defended in friendly press for taking a step back and ensuring search, rescue, and relief takes center stage.

It's the same script, the only difference each and every time is which dumbass talking heads are playing which role this time. For the last four years, it's just been MSNBC and CNN talking heads' turn to say the same shit Fox News talking heads said for the eight previous.

 

[Tsun Tzu]

As somebody who was actively warning friends and family about this becoming a thing and to prepare accordingly with extra food/supply purchases back in November to early December-

People seem to have really short memories, because everybody downplayed it.

The CCP was willfully suppressing information and prosecuting doctors while meddling with figures and quarantining entire cities, then regions.

Media kept putting out shit about the flu being more deadly and more of a concern, harping on about conspiracies or racism against China.

Democrats, along with Biden, were busy calling people/Trump sinophobes while actively promoting big social gatherings on into February at the least.

Republicans were...shit, I don't even know what they were doing outside some senators proposing travel bans. Otherwise they were utterly useless.

And Trump was doing this backroom shit.

Politicians the world over were slow on this, save for a few very prominent exceptions. And they're dealing with their own issues now.

The response, from damned near everyone, was ridiculously lacking, and now they're all busy pointing fingers at one another instead of getting their collective shit together for the inevitable, and potentially much much much worse, next pandemic.

Frankly, I'm AMAZED we're at "only" 180k deaths.

From the early numbers and info leaking out of China, I fully believed we'd be at over a million by now. Shit, at the previously reported 3-8% death rate and how quickly it was spreading, I thought we were on track for a few million at the very least. So, you know what? As horrific as this has been? It could be so, so much worse that it genuinely beggars belief.

 

[lil devils x]

Because it's dumbass back-and-forth gotcha crap that represents a no-win scenario for presidents that's been around since...what, hurricane Hugo? It's more kayfabe crap, who gives a shit, let alone when the press couldn't be arsed to give two shits about the derecho to raise public awareness of it in the first place. But that's what happens when you live in flyover state corn land.

President does visit. President's hit in opposition press for making photo ops and taking attention and money away from search, rescue, and relief. President's defended in friendly press for demonstrating leadership or whatever.

President doesn't visit. President's hit in opposition press for hiding, failing to show leadership, and not caring about people. President's defended in friendly press for taking a step back and ensuring search, rescue, and relief takes center stage.

It's the same script, the only difference each and every time is which dumbass talking heads are playing which role this time. For the last four years, it's just been MSNBC and CNN talking heads' turn to say the same shit Fox News talking heads said for the eight previous.

I'm sorry, that is nonsense. You know what politicians did here that came when tornadoes hit? They rolled up their sleeves and help bring and organize more volunteers and relief for the people here. They helped with search and rescue, they set up food tents where they were feeding the volunteers working, and brought help for the victims. A Good politician doesn't come there to get in the way, THEY ACTUALLY HELP. They bring help, and roll up their sleeves and get to work so if it took away from those working just to accommodate their arrival, they make up for it by bringing enough help to more than compensate for the time they took away. It would kill trump to do something for others though because he doesn't understand why people help others at all.

A good leader comes and helps and shows others how to help and encourages others to do what they can as well. Trump doesn't understand what it takes to be a leader. If he isn't going to help, don't do a photo op at all. The leader is supposed to show them HOW to pick up the pieces by leading by example. He is supposed to come and reassure them they are not alone and that he is going to make sure they are not forgotten and keep his promises. He doesn't do that at all.

 

[lil devils x]

As somebody who was actively warning friends and family about this becoming a thing and to prepare accordingly with extra food/supply purchases back in November to early December-

People seem to have really short memories, because everybody downplayed it.

The CCP was willfully suppressing information and prosecuting doctors while meddling with figures and quarantining entire cities, then regions.

Media kept putting out shit about the flu being more deadly and more of a concern, harping on about conspiracies or racism against China.

Democrats, along with Biden, were busy calling people/Trump sinophobes while actively promoting big social gatherings on into February at the least.

Republicans were...shit, I don't even know what they were doing outside some senators proposing travel bans. Otherwise they were utterly useless.

And Trump was doing this backroom shit.

Politicians the world over were slow on this, save for a few very prominent exceptions. And they're dealing with their own issues now.

The response, from damned near everyone, was ridiculously lacking, and now they're all busy pointing fingers at one another instead of getting their collective shit together for the inevitable, and potentially much much much worse, next pandemic.

Frankly, I'm AMAZED we're at "only" 180k deaths.

From the early numbers and info leaking out of China, I fully believed we'd be at over a million by now. Shit, at the previously reported 3-8% death rate and how quickly it was spreading, I thought we were on track for a few million at the very least. So, you know what? As horrific as this has been? It could be so, so much worse that it genuinely beggars belief.

We're over 191,000 deaths now. Flu season is coming and we still can't buy Lysol in the store because Trump didn't think that was a big enough problem to do something about. He could have used the defense production act to ensure we had no shortages. He chose not to.

 

[Eacaraxe]

Completely ignoring the point and going off about bad orange man, again.

I'm talking about how the press reacts. What part of me grouching about cable news, and how the derecho has been ignored in the press, and how the press treats natural disasters as kayfabe, are you not understanding here? If you're going to respond to my posts, respond to the point I'm making and don't just hit the "reply" button to fart off about whatever you were going to talk about anyways.

Clearly the ignore button isn't enough, can we just get a straight block?

 

[ObsidianJones]

As somebody who was actively warning friends and family about this becoming a thing and to prepare accordingly with extra food/supply purchases back in November to early December-

People seem to have really short memories, because everybody downplayed it.

The CCP was willfully suppressing information and prosecuting doctors while meddling with figures and quarantining entire cities, then regions.

Media kept putting out shit about the flu being more deadly and more of a concern, harping on about conspiracies or racism against China.

Democrats, along with Biden, were busy calling people/Trump sinophobes while actively promoting big social gatherings on into February at the least.

Republicans were...shit, I don't even know what they were doing outside some senators proposing travel bans. Otherwise they were utterly useless.

And Trump was doing this backroom shit.

Politicians the world over were slow on this, save for a few very prominent exceptions. And they're dealing with their own issues now.

The response, from damned near everyone, was ridiculously lacking, and now they're all busy pointing fingers at one another instead of getting their collective shit together for the inevitable, and potentially much much much worse, next pandemic.

Frankly, I'm AMAZED we're at "only" 180k deaths.

From the early numbers and info leaking out of China, I fully believed we'd be at over a million by now. Shit, at the previously reported 3-8% death rate and how quickly it was spreading, I thought we were on track for a few million at the very least. So, you know what? As horrific as this has been? It could be so, so much worse that it genuinely beggars belief.

Out of everyone you mentioned, who was the leader of the free world and actively fired people for saying the truth and hired people who would say what he wanted?

Your best friend could have been yelling from the rooftops and plastered all over social media the exact correct way to handle it. Who's your best friend? Why should people listen to him or her?

The president supposedly has the 'best people' and the cdc informing him. Out of the two, even if your best friend is correct, who are people more apt to listen to?

Everything you say can be true. That does not erode the "Leader" of our nation's importance as the final say.

 

[lil devils x]

I'm talking about how the press reacts. What part of me grouching about cable news, and how the derecho has been ignored in the press, and how the press treats natural disasters as kayfabe, are you not understanding here? If you're going to respond to my posts, respond to the point I'm making and don't just hit the "reply" button to fart off about whatever you were going to talk about anyways.

Clearly the ignore button isn't enough, can we just get a straight block?

How the press reacts is because of his actions. You can't just look at what the press says unless you take into account what his actions are. The press is going to be great when they see him covered in sweat and dirt with his sleeves rolled up digging through debris pulling out and saving the victims photographs into a box, like the mayor did here. They report what he does. It is what he does that is the problem, not just the reporting. We can't just blame reporters when his actions are actually worse than what is reported when you think about what he should be doing instead. The derecho would be all over the news if Trump had done that instead.

I get it, you don't like being told the truth. You don't have to respond.

 

[lil devils x]

Out of everyone you mentioned, who was the leader of the free world and actively fired people for saying the truth and hired people who would say what he wanted?

Your best friend could have been yelling from the rooftops and plastered all over social media the exact correct way to handle it. Who's your best friend? Why should people listen to him or her?

The president supposedly has the 'best people' and the cdc informing him. Out of the two, even if your best friend is correct, who are people more apt to listen to?

Everything you say can be true. That does not erode the "Leader" of our nation's importance as the final say.

That is what people have to remember. It was actually Trump's job to protect the people, we swore an oath to do so. It was his job to make sure the US wasn't experiencing shortages. It was his job to make sure that people took precautions. He had the power of the entire US in his hands to protect his people and still refused.

 

[Eacaraxe]

How the press reacts is because of his actions.

Was Trump president during Hurricane Hugo? Because I called that out specifically by name. Was Trump president between 2009-2016 when Fox was dropping the dumbfuck hot takes about presidential visits to disaster areas? Was Trump president between 2001-2009 when it was MSNBC and CNN dropping the dumbfuck hot takes about presidential visits to disaster areas before Obama?

I'm sorry you no longer apparently seem to have the capacity to entertain conversation on any level other than "orange man bad", but like it or not there were 44 presidents before him that screwed the pooch at some time and in some way, who all had to deal with natural disasters and hostile, overly partisan, press eager to make political hay out of trifling bullshit in the middle of much greater crises to sell copy.

And seriously, you think Trump controls the press? After four years of stupid, distracting, go-nowhere do-nothing airwave diarrhea like Russiagate, you think Trump has that level of precise power over what the press does and does not report?

 

[Gergar12]

He plays dumb, but he knew and downplayed it. I am surprised his advisors let him do this. They are more addicted to power, then serving the public. Only Dr. Fauci has the excuse of I am doing more good than harm by staying.

If I were Faucii by November 2nd I would immediately resign.

And if Trump loses it just means the same idiots in my region would rather worship the cult of the president then admit his honeyed words which are honeyed don't help them. They are still losing jobs to globalization which Trump didn't slow down, dying due to drug overdoses, and now are dying due to COVID. What a bunch of suckers.

 

[lil devils x]

Was Trump president during Hurricane Hugo? Because I called that out specifically by name. Was Trump president between 2009-2016 when Fox was dropping the dumbfuck hot takes about presidential visits to disaster areas? Was Trump president between 2001-2009 when it was MSNBC and CNN dropping the dumbfuck hot takes about presidential visits to disaster areas before Obama?

I'm sorry you no longer apparently seem to have the capacity to entertain conversation on any level other than "orange man bad", but like it or not there were 44 presidents before him that screwed the pooch at some time and in some way, who all had to deal with natural disasters and hostile, overly partisan, press eager to make political hay out of trifling bullshit in the middle of much greater crises to sell copy.

And seriously, you think Trump controls the press? After four years of stupid, distracting, go-nowhere do-nothing airwave diarrhea like Russiagate, you think Trump has that level of precise power over what the press does and does not report?

The press reported positively and negatively on all our recent presidents, Bush jr was reemed over Katrina worse than Bush sr over Hugo. I think the reason why Obama performed better than others on Natural disasters is due to not wanting to be in Bush's shoes after Katrina so he actually put an effort in to make sure people received abundant help quickly for the most part, he likely did better due to him actually having community organizer experience. Obama DID have food tents set up in disaster areas and volunteer forces on the ground and such and it made him look good for it. People tend to forget about Obama bringing an army of volunteers everywhere he went. He was know for his massive " volunteer army" in campaigning, but that wasn't all he organized a volunteer army for, he had them show up for disasters as well.
Fox put out negative press no matter what Obama did, but we are talking about Fox here. The man couldn't tie his shoes without fox accusing him of something. While at the same time, they didn't call him out for the things he should have been called out for like the whole executive order on being able to carry out military actions in allied nations without their knowledge or consent and having the french ambassador resign over it. Trump is different because of what he actually does, and most of the time the mainstream media doesn't even bother to report most of the bad things Trump is actually doing either because they don't care about poor people either. They focus on stupid things that don't even matter while the things that do and are getting people killed get no press.

Trump doesn't control the press, he Manipulates the press. There is a difference. Even with the Russia investigation, Trump would do things in a timely manner to change the subject. Trump likes to do things like say something stupid on twitter to take attention away from something more important he did wrong and fire someone on the weekend so everyone forgot about it by Monday news cycle. He has been in Television a while now, he knows how to manipulate the press. The problem for him with things like Natural disasters though, they are real, he can't just fake his way through it.

 

[lil devils x]

He plays dumb, but he knew and downplayed it. I am surprised his advisors let him do this. They are more addicted to power, then serving the public. Only Dr. Fauci has the excuse of I am doing more good than harm by staying.

If I were Faucii by November 2nd I would immediately resign.

And if Trump loses it just means the same idiots in my region would rather worship the cult of the president then admit his honeyed words which are honeyed don't help them. They are still losing jobs to globalization which Trump didn't slow down, dying due to drug overdoses, and now are dying due to COVID. What a bunch of suckers.

Yea I hope Dr. Fauci doesn't resign in November, we NEED him until after the transition even if Trump loses. He could be beneficial to the new administration, and they would actually be able to give him his office back and a team he deserves so that this can be better addressed in the future. Can you imagine what a relief it would be to him to actually have an administration that backs him up instead of what he has been dealing with? The amount of stress he must be under right now through all of this is more than many could even handle I am sure. Hell if anything any new administration coming in should give him a paid vacation to paradise then hope he comes back and helps them too.

 

[Eacaraxe]

The press reported positively and negatively on all our recent presidents,

That, and coverage is determined by the outlet's partisan bias, is my whole ass point.

I think the reason why Obama performed better than others on Natural disasters is due to not wanting to be in Bush's shoes after Katrina...

He also didn't have to deal with a cascading series of fuck-ups wrought by decades' of mismanagement across multiple levels of government all brought to a head by a single natural disaster, on the scope or scale of Katrina. The closest he came to that was Deepwater Horizon, which was no natural disaster at all. Now he came within a hair's width of it, but luckily for the country the EF-5 that hit Limestone County, AL, in 2011 crossed the Tennessee River two miles east of Browns Ferry.

Fox put out negative press no matter what Obama did, but we are talking about Fox here.

Yes, this would be my point.

...and most of the time the mainstream media doesn't even bother to report...because they don't care about poor people either...

Trump doesn't control the press, he Manipulates the press.

I've been the person here saying this for years, and you're so close but no cigar. These two statements aren't compatible, Trump doesn't "manipulate" a damn thing, and he doesn't have to fake anything. Trump's position vis-a-vis the press is mutually beneficial; not only is Trump wildly profitable to the press, he's also brought unprecedented deregulation and tax breaks to the MNC's that own the media outlets. He's the most lucrative president for the media in American history.

 

[lil devils x]

When we compare the press coverage of the presidents, where are the pictures of Trump working a homeless shelter?

Rebuilding a home?

Rebuilding homes
Helping the Homeless
It isn't " orange man bad" .. It is everyone else at least tries to do something to help and he just doesn't even try. Worse than that , he actually does harmful things instead of trying to help making everything worse instead. The press can't cover him doing good things when he doesn't do good things for them to cover.

 

[lil devils x]

That, and coverage is determined by the outlet's partisan bias, is my whole ass point.


He also didn't have to deal with a cascading series of fuck-ups wrought by decades' of mismanagement across multiple levels of government all brought to a head by a single natural disaster, on the scope or scale of Katrina. The closest he came to that was Deepwater Horizon, which was no natural disaster at all. Now he came within a hair's width of it, but luckily for the country the EF-5 that hit Limestone County, AL, in 2011 crossed the Tennessee River two miles east of Browns Ferry.


Yes, this would be my point.


I've been the person here saying this for years, and you're so close but no cigar. These two statements aren't compatible, Trump doesn't "manipulate" a damn thing, and he doesn't have to fake anything. Trump's position vis-a-vis the press is mutually beneficial; not only is Trump wildly profitable to the press, he's also brought unprecedented deregulation and tax breaks to the MNC's that own the media outlets. He's the most lucrative president for the media in American history.

Obama had Hurricane Sandy, which which was like $50 billion in damage and Katrina was like $80 billion, but Katrina had a lot more complications, the problem though was the initial response was horrible and they were nowhere near prepared to deal with it. Sandy OTOH Obama came in full force pretty quick.

https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/ken-walshs-washington/2012/10/31/a-tale-of-two-storms-comparing-bush-and-obamas-hurricane-response

But I have to say that if Bush had not done such a bad job at handling Katrina, Obama likely would not have been as well prepared. Katrina was one that future presidents will use as an example of what not to do, pretty much like they will use how Trump handled the pandemic as an example of what not to do. SO anyone who does better from now on will be seen as a hero.

Trump DOES manipulate the media, that is why he has Friday night news dumps due to the weekend news cycles:

Trump’s pointless Friday-night news dumps

Late on Friday, April 3, Trump fired Michael Atkinson, the intelligence community’s inspector general. Atkinson had handled the whistleblower complaint that led to Trump’s impeachment. Late on Friday, May 1, Trump removed Christi Grimm as the acting inspector general at the Department of Health...

www.cjr.org

Also when you look at the timing of some of his twitter tirades, they come immediately after something non related that is worse comes out in the news. Then he starts doing a bunch of crazy stuff so the media forgets about the important things and just focus on his insanity instead. It has happened so frequently, by this point we just expect it to happen when he goes on a rant that means it is time to go look at what he wanted everyone to ignore.

Plain Talk: Trump distracts from the real damage with tweets and scandals

Trump and Fox News have done an excellent job convincing a lot of Americans that all is well with their country today despite a botched response to a world pandemic

madison.com

Trump's TikTok Drama Is a Distraction

As the White House zeroes in on a single app, some experts say more pressing issues are going by the wayside.

www.wired.com

I'm not the only one who has come to expect this now due to how frequent it happens. Why do you think people on here didn't even know about The whole doctors and nurses crying on TV begging for PPE and Trump not delivering? While that was happening he was out encouraging people to protest masks. Media paid attention to the anti mask hillbillies at the court house that trump was encouraging and ignored the problem getting people killed. That is how this works.

 

[SupahEwok]

I'm talking about how the press reacts. What part of me grouching about cable news, and how the derecho has been ignored in the press, and how the press treats natural disasters as kayfabe, are you not understanding here?

Could be the word "kayfabe".

 

[tstorm823]

I'm only responding to this bit, specifically because the only fact you need is that he absolutely refused to wear a mask, even symbolically, until his officials were practically begging him. I get your point about the media, but he did downplay it again and again through his words and actions. You just can't overlook that.

He didn't refuse to wear a mask even symbolically. He refused to wear a mask only symbolically. He wore masks in situations where people weren't taking pictures of him, and didn't wear a mask in front of the press (until they eventually caught him), suggesting it'd be unpresidential to appear that way. That's something that can be agreed or disagreed with, but it's a relatively minor point, because once they started making the mask wearing into a partisan conflict, he started putting on masks in front of cameras and touting their goodness. Sure, it's because people told him to, but that's why Trump does literally anything. He listens to people telling him what to do. It's one of his very few redeeming qualities as a person, he listens to smarter people.

Is it possible that that "media caricature" is just your seeing the reality you've been willfully blind to all along?

Could I trust Fauci on this one?

Fauci denies hearing Trump distort facts on coronavirus

The nation’s top infectious disease expert defended the president after recordings revealed that Trump wanted to downplay the severity of the pandemic.

www.politico.com

Fauci Defends Trump, Who Says He Has No Plans to Dismiss Him (Published 2020)

The president had reposted a message on Twitter on Sunday calling for Dr. Fauci’s firing.

www.nytimes.com

The figurehead expert has said time and again that Trump follows their advice. Why would I believe the media, who I can frequently disprove with just the information available to regular people like me, and not the experts?

Might have something to do with the words, "Does anybody die of flu? I didnt know people died of flu".

I believe your past justification for this was that he was... speaking about something a hypothetical version of himself would have said if he hadn't known?

If you already know why you're quoting it out of context, why are you doing so? He only said the part you quoted after saying "I would have said."

would: (expressing the conditional mood) indicating the consequence of an imagined event or situation.

When someone says they would have done something, you can correctly deduce that they didn't actually do it. That is the purpose of "would".

 

[Eacaraxe]

...but Katrina had a lot more complications...

Exactly.

Trump DOES manipulate the media, that is why he has Friday night news dumps due to the weekend news cycles:

Literally every politician does this across every level of government, and has since the genesis of the 24-hour news cycle. It's not even a "politics" thing, that's an "anything newsworthy" thing. Obama fucking did that too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-storied-friday-night-media-dump-now-proven-real/2011/11/10/gIQAiHYo9M_story.html

This is why I give you shit about "orange man bad", you're singling out that Trump does something universal and trying to act like it's some unique, unprecedented, especially dangerous, or even noteworthy at all, thing. That's BEC level shit right there. If Trump dropped a toilet-clogger in Mar-a-Lago, would you be in here talking about how Trump's trying to single-handedly destroy Palm Beach's sewage treatment system?

At some point you just gotta realize, that's how politics works in the age of the 24-hour news cycle, and let it the fuck go. That's not manipulating the media, that's everyday operation.

Also when you look at the timing of some of his twitter tirades, they come immediately after something non related that is worse comes out in the news. Then he starts doing a bunch of crazy stuff so the media forgets about the important things and just focus on his insanity instead.

That's not Trump manipulating the media, that's the media manipulating you. Most of these stories are about alphabet agency deregulation in which the MNC's that own the media -- and their advertisers -- have a vested interest in not reporting. Between Comcast, AT&T, and the FANG's which collectively control over half all news media consumed by Americans, do you think they were gonna report on net neutrality deregulation when they could have instead distracted the public with "covfefe"?

And even if they did report it, it's mostly boring administrative law shit that doesn't drive ratings, when "lol orange man bad" topical/fluff bullshit brings in the stupids in record numbers. These are for-profit companies, what do you think's going to be the bigger crowd-pleaser: an investigative story about Chevron deference in the Trump era and its impact on juridical relief from EPA deregulation, or goddamn Maddow yowling like a cat in heat about whether or not borscht is detectable in Trump's stool samples?

Goes right back to Woodward dropping this shit in September, seven months after it might have saved lives in the earliest parts of the pandemic. He's not trying to inform the public or advance the cause of public health, he's trying to sell a goddamn book. Because the news media isn't a poor, innocent, bystander led about the nose by Trump in all this as you would claim, they're an active participant and beneficiary of it.

Why do you think people on here didn't even know about The whole doctors and nurses crying on TV begging for PPE and Trump not delivering?

Same reason people think the Obama admin replenished SNS PPE supplies (most notably N95 masks) during his terms in office. He didn't, the media openly lied about it to pin it on Trump.

Fact check: Did the Obama administration deplete the federal stockpile of N95 masks?

During the presidency of Barack Obama, the national stockpile was seriously taxed as the administration addressed multiple crises over eight years.

www.usatoday.com

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/hs.2016.0129

How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus

Fiscal restraints imposed by Republicans in Congress in the early years of the Obama administration left the U.S. less prepared to respond to the coronavirus pandemic today.

www.propublica.org

Same reason they think the tea party were who consistently cut CDC, NIH, and HHS funding for the duration of Obama's administration. They didn't, those budget proposals came from the White House, the media lied about it to pin it on Trump and the tea party.

Obama administration sought to cut PPE stockpile, but Biden team points to GOP-led 'budget squeeze'

The Obama administration sought several cuts in funding for the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS) of personal protective equipment (PPE) and other critical medical supplies -- although some of the reductions were relatively small, and most came after Republicans implemented a new law to...

www.foxnews.com

Same reason they seem to have memory holed that China, during the early months of the pandemic, bought out global PPE supplies en masse for import, then price gouged once the virus spread globally. They did, the media openly distracted from that trying to pin PPE shortages on Trump, and shifted blame for trying to bring attention to it by making accusations of racism.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Coronavirus: medical association warns Australia must protect medical supplies amid reports of stockpiling by China-backed firm in February

AMA’s call follows report Sydney staff were instructed to source bulk medical items to send to China as virus took hold in Wuhan

www.theguardian.com

China Covered Up Coronavirus To Hoard Medical Supplies, DHS Report Finds

The report by the Department of Homeland Security, seen by the Associated Press, concluded that China downplayed how serious the novel coronavirus outbreak was, in order to import more medical supplies and export less.

www.forbes.com

DHS report: China hid virus' severity to hoard supplies

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials believe China covered up the extent of the coronavirus outbreak — and how contagious the disease is — to stock up on medical supplies needed to respond to it, intelligence documents show.

apnews.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-sent-millions-of-face-masks-to-china-early-this-year-ignoring-pandemic-warning-signs/2020/04/18/aaccf54a-7ff5-11ea-8013-1b6da0e4a2b7_story.html

Media paid attention to the anti mask hillbillies at the court house that trump was encouraging and ignored the problem getting people killed.

Which they did because it made them a shitload of money. That's how "this" works.