Biden's Tax plan

[Seanchaidh]

Oh, it's much wider that that: companies benefit from a lot of things at a lot of levels. The entire legal framework that companies operate in is the work of the state. They are also defended by the US military. They use transport infrastructure. Health expenditure helps keep their workers alive healthy and public education provides them skilled workers. And so on.

The executive of the modern state is nothing but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole capitalist class. So it ought to be funded entirely by the capitalist class.

 

[tstorm823]

That is not a meaningful argument.

Wat? You claim businesses should pay for the benefits they receive from government action, I list the direct ways they pay the government, and you just say no? Wat?

 

[Kae]

Even the poor have to file a tax return. My brothers are poor and they still do their taxes and understand credits and such. That is how my unemployed brother still gets his healthcare subsidies exempted.

Keep in mind that I'm in México so most of this shit isn't of my concern but it doesn't seem to me that you're taking into account that there are still many poor people that are illiterate. so I don't know the numbers but I'm willing to disclose that I work at a financial agency, we call people mainly in California, Arizona and Nevada and I think, it's mostly low-income people and a seriously high amount of them are very much illiterate and no matter how much I simplify things for them they can't even understand how something seemingly as simple as interest works, these people can't even file taxes if they wanted to, they have to rely on predatory financial agencies that basically scam them out of the majority of the tax return so credits aren't perhaps the best of solutions.
Look, I don't know the statistics, but even if educated poor people can benefit of programs like these ones some of the people that really need it most juts won't, because they simply lack the education to do so.

 

[Agema]

Wat? You claim businesses should pay for the benefits they receive from government action, I list the direct ways they pay the government, and you just say no? Wat?

That entities pay certain taxes bears little relevance to whether they should pay other taxes or not.

 

[lil devils x]

Keep in mind that I'm in México so most of this shit isn't of my concern but it doesn't seem to me that you're taking into account that there are still many poor people that are illiterate. so I don't know the numbers but I'm willing to disclose that I work at a financial agency, we call people mainly in California, Arizona and Nevada and I think, it's mostly low-income people and a seriously high amount of them are very much illiterate and no matter how much I simplify things for them they can't even understand how something seemingly as simple as interest works, these people can't even file taxes if they wanted to, they have to rely on predatory financial agencies that basically scam them out of the majority of the tax return so credits aren't perhaps the best of solutions.
Look, I don't know the statistics, but even if educated poor people can benefit of programs like these ones some of the people that really need it most juts won't, because they simply lack the education to do so.

The IRS doesn't excuse illiteracy. It is actually illegal in the US to not file a tax return. There are civil and criminal penalties for failing to do so.

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If they cannot receive tax credits, they would not be able to receive other benefits as well. That is the reality in the US now and has been for a long time. They either do it or they receive nothing is pretty much how this goes already. Even to receive social security now you have to have a bank account. If they are not capable of filling out forms themselves they can obtain assistance from a social worker who will help. But they do not have other options available anymore these days. They expect financial records, bank accounts and tax returns to be able to receive welfare, Medicaid and food stamps as well.

Though this may also be why I had an IRS building on fire like this on my HO scale train set growing up:

 

[Avnger]

Wat? You claim businesses should pay for the benefits they receive from government action, I list the direct ways they pay the government, and you just say no? Wat?

"I paid sales tax on my gas station burritos, so why should I have to pay property taxes on my house?"

 

[tippy2k2]

"I paid sales tax on my gas station burritos, so why should I have to pay property taxes on my house?"