Ratcliffe declassified Russian intelligence assessment that claims Hillary was setting up a plan to connect Trump campaign to Russian hacking

[lil devils x]

Was that the server that was allegedly setup inside a house with bog standard locks and stuck in a cupboard?

Because if it was, that server had fuck all protection at both the virtual and physical level.

The server was physically protected by the secret service due to it being in Bill Clinton's home, which he is one of the Presidents still protected by secret service for life, and Hillary also has secret service protection for life as his wife. Secret Service doesn't just leave the home unprotected while they are away, the home is STILL protected to ensure no one breaks in to put bombs or access protected records or anything else for that matter whether they are home or away. So it was under 24hr surveillance.

Also, although there was a crap ton of speculation and rumor this still remains true:

"No public evidence has emerged to indicate that hackers compromised Clinton’s private server, although the FBI did determine that some of the messages she sent from the server were exposed when someone hacked her aides’ personal email accounts. "

DOJ watchdog slams Comey for claiming Clinton’s server could have been hacked

No public evidence has emerged to indicate that hackers compromised Clinton’s private server.

www.politico.com

There was never any evidence her server was ever compromised by anyone. There was an absurd about of misinformation going around about it though. The Former President and his family's home will be under Secret Service protection for life.

 

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[Seanchaidh]

What truth was that?

That Neera Tanden wanted to make Libya pay for the excellent service of invading them by taking their oil is one of them, I think.

 

[Gordon_4]

The server was physically protected by the secret service due to it being in Bill Clinton's home, which he is one of the Presidents still protected by secret service for life, and Hillary also has secret service protection for life as his wife. Secret Service doesn't just leave the home unprotected while they are away, the home is STILL protected to ensure no one breaks in to put bombs or access protected records or anything else for that matter whether they are home or away. So it was under 24hr surveillance.

Also, although there was a crap ton of speculation and rumor this still remains true:

"No public evidence has emerged to indicate that hackers compromised Clinton’s private server, although the FBI did determine that some of the messages she sent from the server were exposed when someone hacked her aides’ personal email accounts. "

DOJ watchdog slams Comey for claiming Clinton’s server could have been hacked

No public evidence has emerged to indicate that hackers compromised Clinton’s private server.

www.politico.com

There was never any evidence her server was ever compromised by anyone. There was an absurd about of misinformation going around about it though. The Former President and his family's home will be under Secret Service protection for life.

I would still consider that to be insufficent to be considered secure. It was a bad idea to set it up in a private residence.

 

[tstorm823]

What truth was that?

Primary sources are true in a sense, regardless of what they say. If you have Hillary's emails, you know the truth of what Hillary emailed. It doesn't really matter what is said in them, the source material is still accurate.

 

[CaitSeith]

I would still consider that to be insufficent to be considered secure. It was a bad idea to set it up in a private residence.

It is bad to set it up in a private residence; it is bad to set it up in a government building. There is no win...

 

[Trunkage]

Primary sources are true in a sense, regardless of what they say. If you have Hillary's emails, you know the truth of what Hillary emailed. It doesn't really matter what is said in them, the source material is still accurate.

That's great. Was there is truth is Trump's accusation? We were told that Hillary is evil and needs to go to jail and this would prove it

 

[Gordon_4]

It is bad to set it up in a private residence; it is bad to set it up in a government building. There is no win...

Inside a government building there would be several more layers of access control between bad actors and the server. Both at the physical level and the virtual one. The Clintons are wealthy enough that they could have rented a domain from a reputable company with security protocols in place for both.

 

[lil devils x]

Inside a government building there would be several more layers of access control between bad actors and the server. Both at the physical level and the virtual one. The Clintons are wealthy enough that they could have rented a domain from a reputable company with security protocols in place for both.

The government servers WERE hacked however. The same hacking group had hacked the department of defense that was trying to hack Clinton, so it actually NOT being there may have been what saved her because it wasn't where they were looking for it. The same group was who was hacking all these things, including hospital systems.

Russian hackers are targeting U.S. Senate email accounts | TechCrunch

According to a new report, the same group that hacked the Democratic National Committee actively targeted the U.S. Senate through the latter half of 2017. The revelation comes out of a new report from Trend Micro, a Japanese firm that has revealed similar phishing schemes taking aim at foreign...

techcrunch.com

Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees

The 2015 attack on Pentagon computers was not spying, but a full-on assault with the only apparent purpose to cause damage

www.cbsnews.com

Russian Hackers Are Still Probing the US Power Grid

Researchers warn that utilities hackers don't need to cause blackouts to do damage.

www.wired.com

Russia's GRU Hackers Hit US Government and Energy Targets

A previously unreported Fancy Bear campaign persisted for well over a year—and indicates that the notorious group has broadened its focus.

www.wired.com

U.S. Accuses Russian Military Hackers of Attack on Email Servers (Published 2020)

The unusually public complaint showed that American spy agencies are becoming more aggressive in calling out Moscow’s interference as the presidential election approaches.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Gordon_4]

The government servers WERE hacked however. The same hacking group had hacked the department of defense that was trying to hack Clinton, so it actually NOT being there may have been what saved her because it wasn't where they were looking for it. The same group was who was hacking all these things, including hospital systems.

Russian hackers are targeting U.S. Senate email accounts | TechCrunch

According to a new report, the same group that hacked the Democratic National Committee actively targeted the U.S. Senate through the latter half of 2017. The revelation comes out of a new report from Trend Micro, a Japanese firm that has revealed similar phishing schemes taking aim at foreign...

techcrunch.com

Russian hack almost brought the U.S. military to its knees

The 2015 attack on Pentagon computers was not spying, but a full-on assault with the only apparent purpose to cause damage

www.cbsnews.com

Russian Hackers Are Still Probing the US Power Grid

Researchers warn that utilities hackers don't need to cause blackouts to do damage.

www.wired.com

Russia's GRU Hackers Hit US Government and Energy Targets

A previously unreported Fancy Bear campaign persisted for well over a year—and indicates that the notorious group has broadened its focus.

www.wired.com

U.S. Accuses Russian Military Hackers of Attack on Email Servers (Published 2020)

The unusually public complaint showed that American spy agencies are becoming more aggressive in calling out Moscow’s interference as the presidential election approaches.

www.nytimes.com

Yeah and beyond the captured data being vomited onto the Internet, they would know the private one had been compromised how, exactly?

 

[lil devils x]

Yeah and beyond the captured data being vomited onto the Internet, they would know the private one had been compromised how, exactly?

They said there was no evidence the server had been wiped as well:

Report: No Evidence Hillary Clinton’s Email Server Was Wiped | Gephardt Daily

Platte River Networks, the company that managed former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's email server, said there is no indication the servers were wiped.

gephardtdaily.com

Technically they could recall all the data on the server if they wanted to.

 

[ralfy]

DNI declassifies Brennan notes, CIA memo on Hillary Clinton 'stirring up' scandal between Trump, Russia

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified documents that revealed former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s purported “plan” to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use...

www.foxnews.com

 

[lil devils x]

DNI declassifies Brennan notes, CIA memo on Hillary Clinton 'stirring up' scandal between Trump, Russia

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Tuesday declassified documents that revealed former CIA Director John Brennan briefed former President Obama on Hillary Clinton’s purported “plan” to tie then-candidate Donald Trump to Russia as “a means of distracting the public from her use...

www.foxnews.com

This is apparently AFTER what Trump had just done in June and July, so it really isn't Hillary trying to " stir up", She was simply RESPONDING to Trumps previous actions. Trump stirred it up and Clinton finally started to call him on it is what this looks like here.
Here is the full timeline here just to put this in perspective:

Timeline - The Moscow Project

A timeline of known incidents before and after the election demonstrating the many intersections between Trump, his campaign, Russian officials, and entities owned by elite Russians, many of whom closely align with the Kremlin.

themoscowproject.org

 

[ralfy]

This is apparently AFTER what Trump had just done in June and July, so it really isn't Hillary trying to " stir up", She was simply RESPONDING to Trumps previous actions. Trump stirred it up and Clinton finally started to call him on it is what this looks like here.
Here is the full timeline here just to put this in perspective:

Timeline - The Moscow Project

A timeline of known incidents before and after the election demonstrating the many intersections between Trump, his campaign, Russian officials, and entities owned by elite Russians, many of whom closely align with the Kremlin.

themoscowproject.org

The memo doesn't counter that. Rather, Clinton did more than just respond.

 

[lil devils x]

The memo doesn't counter that. Rather, Clinton did more than just respond.

After what Trump did she didn't do enough to respond.... Look at the timeline there from the beginning. What Clinton did here in response was not only called for at that pint but she didn't go nearly far enough. She really needed more private investigators on this so they would have had some of the evidence the houses didn't find out about until after they impeached him. What they found out after the fact could have been discovered by her team before the election and the house voting if Clinton had done a better job of this.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Wtf. Have i just unwittingly fell into a time machine? Guys, she lost the election years ago...you won it, remember? And are doing absolutely terrible in power too! Wait, waaiit. Ohhh...lol. Now this makes sense!

 

[gorfias]

This is what the future is guys: politicised releases of rumours from the intelligence services to serve party politics.

G-d help us everyone when Deep Fakes are used

 

[Thaluikhain]

G-d help us everyone when Deep Fakes are used

Eh, no biggie.

Almost feel sorry for the shadowy conspiracy types coming up with elaborate deceptions, putting the work in and all, and then some other group of space lizards does a half-arsed job but people fall for it anyway.

Less flippantly, people still believe Trump (for example), despite the mountain of evidence about his lies, because people who want to believe him are going to find ways to do so. He and his don't have to go to too much effort, the people he's lying to make up much of the lie themselves.

 

[gorfias]

Eh, no biggie.

Almost feel sorry for the shadowy conspiracy types coming up with elaborate deceptions, putting the work in and all, and then some other group of space lizards does a half-arsed job but people fall for it anyway.

Less flippantly, people still believe Trump (for example), despite the mountain of evidence about his lies, because people who want to believe him are going to find ways to do so. He and his don't have to go to too much effort, the people he's lying to make up much of the lie themselves.

Can you give me an example of a material lie? Something that really matters? And it cannot be puffery (something intentionally un quantifiable like saying something is the most beautiful ever). Example: Biden tells us he will repeal the Trump tax cuts on day 1. He will not raise taxes on anyone making less than $400K a year. Trump tax cuts went to some people making less than $400K a year. Their taxes would go up with the repeal.
What would you say Trump has done on par with that sort of thing?

 

[Dalisclock]

Pfft. That's nothing! I heard Trump tried to frame Obama for trying to frame Russia for trying to frame Hilary for trying to frame Biden for trying to frame Russia for trying to frame Trump for trying to frame Hilary for trying to frame Obama for trying to frame Biden for trying to frame Russia for trying to frame Russia for colluding with Russia.

At this point its been so long and so many fingers have edited, omitted, destroyed, rewritten and falsified evidence I don't think we'll ever know what happened. Worse I don't think Americans care anymore.

Clearly it's the La li lu le lo.