Donald and Melania Trump Test Positive for Covid

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No one pointed it out because you were the only one who missed the message.

That 3 days in, someone is already pushing overpriced memorabilia about how he beat covid. In a topic about him having covid.

Those are directly linked concepts, don't blame us if you cant keep up.

Also let's all have a long chuckle at the fact you didn't properly fact check your post which consisted soley of bashing others for inadequate fact checking.
No it's really not relevant here as it's not Trump himself or the Whitehouse itself pushing it.

People jump on on anything to push merchandise hell the snope link I posted showed the same site did Covid coins before any of this happened. It's some-one cashing in as plenty of people try to do nothing more.
 

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Hey, lil devils. What's the medical effect of fear? If you wanted people to approach a virus from the mindset most likely to help their condition, what would you suggest?

Hint: fear hurts the human immune system.
Your comment reads like something from r/iamverysmart.

No need to be so literal. It's not about fear as an emotion. Nobody wants people to feel afraid of the virus. It actually boggles my mind that anyone would take this so literally. It's about taking the virus seriously enough to be cautious, to wear a mask, adhere to social distance rules and wash your hands.

And even if it was, are you honestly suggesting that fear is worse for Covid-19 than wearing a mask? Are you honestly suggesting that immune system vs deadly virus functions simpler than a shallow RPG mechanic? What the actual fuck, man?
 
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Hey, lil devils. What's the medical effect of fear? If you wanted people to approach a virus from the mindset most likely to help their condition, what would you suggest?

Hint: fear hurts the human immune system.
I can quite assure you, if the aim is to avoid catching covid, stress isn't half as bad as not using infection control.
 

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People jump on on anything to push merchandise hell the snope link I posted showed the same site did Covid coins before any of this happened. It's some-one cashing in as plenty of people try to do nothing more.
Yes. Welcome to the point everyone else arrived at pages ago. The point Dalisclock made. Which you told him, and I quote, "Sorry friend, you got had here".

Stop trying to play the victim and rewrite the narrative. Just own that in your zeal to put someone else down, you made a fool of yourself.
 

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Trump doesn't care if his supporters die either, as long as they voted first. He can't run for president again so he doesn't need them after that.
Agree 100%,, simply highlighting the fact they ravenously run to the defense of his actions despite the clear evidence the man couldn't be bothered so much as to piss on them if they were on fire. It's like Stockholm Syndrome on racist steroids.
 

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Out of curiosity, do you still say "hey guys, I'm not saying coronavirus is a bioweapon, BUT *conspiracy conspiracy conspiracy"?
I never said it was a bioweapon, I said it came from a lab in Wuhan. Not the same thing. In fact Im pretty sure I specifically said I did not think it was a bioweapon, merely research that leaked due to malpractice.
 

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Well either it's very auspiciously timed based on a ton of other people testing positive from an event he was at and in his administration or they're all in on it together as a conspiracy. Or he really did just have it and having good medical care helps a lot and he down played the severity
Right because when has anyone in the White House EVER lied for him? When has any single person in that building embarrassed themselves, or shamed their position by quoting the President as if his words are facts, or simply read aloud prepared statements to make Trump seem less crazy.

Remember this is the administration that Day 2 told the American people it wasn't raining in DC when it was. That is the level they're willing to lie. That what's outside the window isn't happening.
When did we develop trust in anything they say and do?
 

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Right because when has anyone in the White House EVER lied for him? When has any single person in that building embarrassed themselves, or shamed their position by quoting the President as if his words are facts, or simply read aloud prepared statements to make Trump seem less crazy.

Remember this is the administration that Day 2 told the American people it wasn't raining in DC when it was. That is the level they're willing to lie. That what's outside the window isn't happening.
When did we develop trust in anything they say and do?
If for a theory to be true it requires for every people assisting to every event to be part of the conspiracy; you need more evidence than just doubt. I don't remember other newspapers saying the it wasn't raining that day; so surely you have similar proof that none of the reported cases are actually true, don't you?
 

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If for a theory to be true it requires for every people assisting to every event to be part of the conspiracy; you need more evidence than just doubt. I don't remember other newspapers saying the it wasn't raining that day; so surely you have similar proof that none of the reported cases are actually true, don't you?
Given the record of everything Trump has said is a lie, and everything his administration has said has been a lie, I'm gonna have to ask you for more evidence than just their word.
They've never not proven their word is at best meaningless, if not the actual opposite of what is true.

If Trump says something is true, the actual response is to assume he's lying until further evidence comes forward. And so far the only evidence has been the same people who have always lied for him in the past agreeing with him. So actually there's more evidence that he didn't have it, based on everyone who is a known liar saying he did.
 

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Given the record of everything Trump has said is a lie, and everything his administration has said has been a lie, I'm gonna have to ask you for more evidence than just their word.
They've never not proven their word is at best meaningless, if not the actual opposite of what is true.

If Trump says something is true, the actual response is to assume he's lying until further evidence comes forward. And so far the only evidence has been the same people who have always lied for him in the past agreeing with him. So actually there's more evidence that he didn't have it, based on everyone who is a known liar saying he did.
That also applies to most recent things he has said. He said he no longer has it; that would mean he still has it. That's also a possibility... a more probably one than 20+ different people feigning to have been infected with COVID (with all and forged medical records) and no one being the wiser.

Such conspiratorial accusation requires more hard evidence. After all, pretending to look better than he actually is is Trump's MO (just look at that artificial tan and the dyed hair!)
 
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Trump isn't doing ANYTHING to stop fear, he is INCREASING fear by ignoring what needs to be done and acting like an idiot about it. EVERYONE is MORE afraid due to Trump's actions, not less. You have less fear when you see that your government is making you safer. He is doing the opposite of that and putting us in danger instead. No one believes him.
Donald Trump is recorded behind closed doors saying how covid is deadly and contagious.
CDC experts are on record saying Trump was matching their rhetoric when he did covid briefings.
Trump downplayed the virus in those briefings, and is now putting on a brave face about the virus he has.

Trump is downplaying covid publicly because doctors and experts told him it's the right things to do. And of course they did, fear and panic lead to more people dying. You have spent 6 months fearmongering about the virus. You'd rather people die than Trump get a single thing right.
 

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I can quite assure you, if the aim is to avoid catching covid, stress isn't half as bad as not using infection control.
Since I'm talking to someone acting like it's a heinous crime to say he feels better, I'd hardly say that's the point.
 

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Since I'm talking to someone acting like it's a heinous crime to say he feels better, I'd hardly say that's the point.
It's still reasonable to weigh the placebo effect against the effect of caution on spreading the disease in the first place. And the placebo effect loses that one hard.
 

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It's still reasonable to weigh the placebo effect against the effect of caution on spreading the disease in the first place. And the placebo effect loses that one hard.
There's little long term gain in caution on spreading. Just about everyone is going to be exposed to the virus in the end. We knew this at the start.
 

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Trump is downplaying covid publicly because doctors and experts told him it's the right things to do. And of course they did, fear and panic lead to more people dying.
You believe he downplayed it on medical advice? Then why haven't medical experts been telling us its nothing to worry about? Why has that approach not been adopted by countries with more success with the virus than the USA?

No, misinforming people about the level of danger is not a beneficial strategy, and isn't in the medical handbook. No medical professional would endorse that approach to a public health emergency, and none have.

If people don't take the threat seriously, they disregard vital behavioural rules: stop wearing masks, stop distancing, stop working from home. And that is far, far more important to public safety than the impact stress has on the immune system.
 
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You believe he downplayed it on medical advice? Then why haven't medical experts been telling us its nothing to worry about? Why has that approach not been adopted by countries with more success with the virus than the USA?
They have. The experts have been saying that. The CDC has been saying most business shutdowns are bad policy. The pediatric groups said that closing schools was worse for the health of children than the virus. Overdoses are up 20-30%. Suicide hotlines had spikes in activity that they don't want to report the rate of. Reports of people avoiding hospitals and dying because of it because they were afraid of the virus. All of this is going on. Nobody is listening unless it suits their politics.
 

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If the President is able to fulfill his presidential duties, then why shouldn't he allowed back in the White House? It's not like CDC recommendations are laws.
Well, technically there are no laws against him defecating on his desk, fingerpainting the Oval Office with it and then signing an executive order demanding it be called "art". But it would be an extraordinarily stupid thing to do, would it not?
 

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Well, technically there are no laws against him defecating on his desk, fingerpainting the Oval Office with it and then signing an executive order demanding it be called "art". But it would be an extraordinarily stupid thing to do, would it not?
Man, the sass level coming off you is high lately

I'm here for it
 
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Overdoses are up 20-30%. Suicide hotlines had spikes in activity that they don't want to report the rate of.
This isn't a result of shutting things down, it's a result of shutting things down in a particular way-- without sufficient financial support.
 

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This isn't a result of shutting things down, it's a result of shutting things down in a particular way-- without sufficient financial support.
You are incorrect. That was the trend at the height of covid stimulus, when people were getting unprecedented support. Giving people money doesn't counteract telling people to hide in their homes perpetually from imminent death.