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Two people beheaded and third person dead in suspected terror attack in Nice
Three people have been killed after a man shouting "Allahu Akbar" launched a suspected terror attack inside a church in Nice before police shot dead a gunman in Avignonwww.mirror.co.uk
Welp.
But what clamping down happened? Did France ban the Islam? massively close down mosques? Ban Hijabs from the streets? Ban Hallal food?
Never been in? Most of these people still have family in their "country of origin" and go there at least a month during the summer holidays. It's not like they lost all contact with their homeland. Manye even feel more attached to Morocco, Turkey,... than their host European country. And what about their responsibility not to piss off their hosts? Why should we always be the ones trying not to offend them? What about their racism, sexism and homophobia? Their imposition of Islamic values?
If you'd move out of the country you were born in and move to a different country when the economy is not going well then you're a long-term tourist and a guest.
but..but..muh christians!
Yeah. Their superiority complex, complete disregard of western values, hate of liberal democracy, glorification of violence and dream of a worldwide caliphate ofcourse have nothing to do with it. How much does a country have to get punched in the face before it gets the message?
I'm not in favor of "The "go home if it doesn't suit you"-argument". I did say that many of those people would happily "go home" if it was financially beneficial to them and have a tenuous connection with their birth-country. Hence the volunteers to Daesh. Yes, you can blame the host nations for not working harder on assimilation for their citizens of the Umma, that is expected and also justified. I'd like to stress that muslims aren't very happy being ruled by mushrikeen , mostly because it means that their surroundings don't respect Shariah. Imagine you're a practicing Muslim teen, and at your highschool the girls walk around in modern outfits and tempt you, and after school your classmates all drink alchohol, and you can only eat halal food at home from your mum. This is why muslims live in close-knit communities (same with practicing jews). If they were able to, they'd live in a country that follows the laws of Allah, and does so in the public sphere. This is also why the biggest opponents of normalizing homosex or pederasy in public education in the UK are practicing muslims.
I'm not christian.
It was in referral to those who continue to trivialize islamic terrorism is if it is in the same league as whatever the christian equivalent is.
The Christian equivalent is in another league because it is organized and done by states. i.e. Iraq getting pommeled into the stone-age.
I guess you haven't read about the invasion in 1990. That can be considered as worse than 2003 in terms of economic damage, material damage and loss of human lives.
Which was provoked by Saddam occupying Kuwait. Let's not forget Saddam gassing the Kurds a few years before, his aggression to other neighbouring countries and him openly terrorizing his own country and in particular the shia majority for decades on end and you didn't have a country that was exactly flourishing to begin with. Other than it's exports of crude maybe.
That would be true if those people truly consider themselves French. A whole bunch doesn't, they still identify more with their "country of origin".
It depends, who is that person who votes for FN? Is it a French-American who thinks Trump's America is heaven and feels more American than French? Than yes i'd tell them they can go to that promised haven instead of trying to turn France into it. And if they use violence I would go further than just "telling" them. But that isn't really representative of the average FN voter now isn't it? They are usually 100% French with no connection to other nations, one nationality and probably never even travelled outside of the country.
I don't understand the flow of conversation here. Are you justifying the invasions of Iraq?
No, you are the one setting up a disingenuous comparison here with a false argument. What does the U.S. invasion of Iraq have to do with a muslim terrorist beheading a French school teacher or a truck deliberately driving over children? You make comparisons with international conflicts you can't follow through on.
The Christian equivalent to Islamic terrorism is in another league. Christians topple Islamic regimes and plunged those countries into disaster. They're responsible for hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugees.
If the intent was to 'terrorize' as you claim, wouldn't there then be more effective modus of operandi? Why instigate a refugee crisis, heavy military casualties and trillions in losses when you have the most destructive weapons on earth? Your reductionist approach only betrays you know absolutely nothing of foreign policy other than the most basic onedimensional platitudes.
ok dude
Which invasion are we talking about? Because if it's the Gulf War, I'll gladly justify that one (if not our response afterwards which was to try to destroy the country through economic sanctions)
My condolences to the families of the victim. A truly tragic event.Two people beheaded and third person dead in suspected terror attack in Nice
Three people have been killed after a man shouting "Allahu Akbar" launched a suspected terror attack inside a church in Nice before police shot dead a gunman in Avignon
Welp.
