Contentment with current levels of white supremacy in the US vs desire for higher levels of white supremacy in the US.
Proud boys are done with the pretense. Going full Nazi
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He has also expressed nothing but negative opinions toward people of color and Jewish people. He has defended Holocaust deniers. He referred to Cory Booker as, "kind of like Sambo." He has said of black South Africans that they never had any right to the land they live on and have lived on long before Whitey showed up. He's an open misogynist and sexist, saying that women would be happier as housewives. He is quoted as saying, "No means no is Puritanism."
Every bigot makes an exception here and there, of course. It's how they maintain the cognitive dissonance and use it as a deniability shield.
So yeah, he's a fucking bigot. And if you defend all the shit he's said, so are you.
So wrong and polarizing in every imaginable way.
Good people can say ignorant things... ESPECIALLY if they are comedians, which McInnes is. Comedy is hard. I think, for instance, Kathy Griffin was wrong in that Al Queda pose but she is very funny and should not have been canceled.
And speaking of bigotry, why did you include the statement, "women would be happier as housewives". That isn't about race, and given that under Feminism, women are reportedly record breaking un-happy and that is worthy of investigation an example of white supremacy? To simply slap hostile labels on those who think your position is indefensible is part of the problems we are having in the West. Or are men just supposed to, in the words of Senator Mazie Hirono (D-HI) "shut up and step up" ?
It is correct to say that misogyny is separate to white supremacy, yes. It's certainly an example of bigotry, though.
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It was in jest like 'dried up old fruit' and not intended as insult. Apologies if it came across as such.
I did not say any of that. Go back to the first page.
Those are my words. @gorfias was the one you were trying to quote.
No, I'm just refusing to go along with your delusions.
No he isn't.
Because it illustrates that he's a fucking bigot.
My first inclination would’ve been that they’re being smart asses and that “goy” is slang for “goyim”, which is the negative connotation Jews historically gave to non-Jews.
Proud Boys Infighting Sees Leading Member Form Breakaway Neo-Nazi Group
Kyle "Based Stickman" Chapman announced Proud Goys while attacking chairman Enrique Tarrio on Telegram.www.newsweek.com
I know it may surprise you guys but these guys were actually racist. Or at least throwing away any pretense about it.
Also they're thinking of changing their name to Proud Goys. Fun fact about the word Goy in Brazil it's a term for self-identify as men who are attracted to men, but not as homosexual or bisexual.
That name is almost too perfect.
Goy - Wikipedia
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No worries.
In terms of marriage, people get married for all sorts of reasons. Nowadays procreation is just one of many. And sure, I might not want to get married personally, but if the option exists for others to do so purely as a symbolic commitment or expression to one another, then there's no good reason it should be restricted to opposite-sex couples.
More that your responses illustrate in neon your own issues and inability to contenance anyone who will not kneel before your intollerant and authoritarian world view.
Oy vey, I did Nazi that coming.
Supposedly that is the idea, calling themselves that as a signifier of how totally not jewish they are. I I'm willing to believe they would think that very clever. Alas, racial supremacists trend heavily towards not being paragons of their favored race, neither physically, nor mentally.
I mean I'm more surprised they got a few black men to claim to be Proud Boys in the first place. Say what you want, that must have been a hell of a sale's pitch.
No, it really is true that the "small government" movement in the USA includes a great deal of social conservatives, of which a subset are also evangelical Christians. Many are not really "libertarian" in a certain sense, that sense being that they're just people who don't want to pay taxes: the social liberty thing interests them barely at all. Well, they like their liberty, just they don't care about anybody else's.
Is he though? Or is comedy just a vehicle to express socially unpalatable views? I think the alt right generally has taken up irony and comedy so strongly as a tactic to allow them to say things they couldn't otherwise get away with. Anyone objects, they invoke the plausible deniability that the other person doesn't "get the joke" or "have a sense of humour". Except it's not a joke to all the people who think the same things.
I think it's entirely possible McInnes is just someone for whom the only serious thing is provoking people: it is all a joke, a performance. Ironically the Proud Boys might actually be the biggest fools of the jest: how much stupid shit might they do at the urging of someone who doesn't really believe in any of it? I can see why some people might really amuse themselves that way.
God I hate that you were right and I hate everything that makes it so.
I don't know. I saw him jesting about the creation of the Proud Boys, openly stating it was a joke and his shock that so many took it seriously. It seemed comic to me.
But the "joke" obviously sprang from some real world views of his. Outrage and disgust with political correctness, that Westerners are sensing that people want us shamed for being Westerners and that we should not be so shamed.
And I've seen a wild range of people blending stand up with political world view. Sometimes, it really is funny. But can you write you don't know what George Carlin's politics where listening to his stand up? OTOH, I saw a Feminist, doing a stand up the consisted of her recounting her rage at having been raped. The style was stand up. Yet, at no time did she say anything even mildly amusing. Not a little bit. And everything in between.
Agreed. I guess the equivalent of eye rolling is an argument now.
Though, does this guy want to splinter away from that group, or take it over?
Dude, just say white people. And to repeat, he's not a comedian. Using that is nothing more than a coward's excuse to absolve McInnes of whatever filthy bigotry comes out of his mouth.
