Trump Administration Seeks To Fast Track Executions and Bring Back Firing Squads Before Biden's Inauguration

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>looks at thread title
>before Biden inauguration
Oh you sweet summer child
Every battleground state has now certified their elections. The only possible path remaining to prevent a Biden presidency would be a literal coup by Republicans which eliminates any pretense at the US having democratic elections.
 

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Being a better person doesn't matter if you're never getting out.
On the contrary, you can be a better person and make the world a better place wherever you are. You could help other prisoners reform, or make prison a better place. You could get more luxuries and improve your quality of life with good behaviour. It's not beyond possibility if you became a real saint, maybe a president might look upon your sterling efforts and offer clemency.

And not only that, but being a better person can be an internal thing: reconciling ourselves to our sins and situation. Finding an inner peace and acceptance, taking joy in what is available to us, even if it is limited.
 

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Okay...so @gorfias, I know you have said before that you are worried about a Biden presidency meaning harm coming to you and your family, yet you always seem to prefer Trump. Why? Especially here, with this new bit to add to the puzzle of Trump. He has constantly called those critical of him and his administration as traitors. His DOJ has toyed with the idea of labeling "violent" protests as seditious acts (and just to nip this one in the bud, I very much doubt you want to give the government unilateral power to declare when protests against it has become "violent" enough to justify rounding them up). And now here we have his administration not only trying to make it easier to execute people, but to do it by a goddamn firing squad ("Just like the old days").
Sounds like bluster. Trump is called a Fascist, but if anything, he has shown deference to local governments that I don't know we can expect from Biden. Will Biden try to lock us down from the national level? I do hear he is already running from the New Green Deal, gun confiscation, who knows what else. But will he achieve the peace initiatives in the middle east Trump has won? If Trump does get a 2nd term, will we really pull our troops out of Afghanistan? Would a Biden do so?
If Trump doesn't get this thing over-turned, I'm thinking Kamala will be the one taking over very quickly. And she's kind of right wing for a Democrat. Really trying not to pay attention till mid December.
 

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Every battleground state has now certified their elections. The only possible path remaining to prevent a Biden presidency would be a literal coup by Republicans which eliminates any pretense at the US having democratic elections.
If the elections were fraudulent it already eliminated it
 

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Sounds like bluster.
Bluster? Deference to states? Man, he already sent unmarked federal agents into Portland earlier this year! Just add in the "protestors are seditious elements" and "quick and easy access to firing squads", and it's quite literally your nightmare taken life, except it's "your" president disappearing you.
 

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If the elections were fraudulent it already eliminated it
If the elections were so fraudulent that their results need to be overturned, it should be easy to prove it in court. Oddly enough, Trump's team and supporters are 0 for 33 in doing just that...
 

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If the elections were so fraudulent that their results need to be overturned, it should be easy to prove it in court.
Yeah, if only the judges would allow the evidence to be presented in court...
See, I don't have you blocked.
 

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If the elections were so fraudulent that their results need to be overturned, it should be easy to prove it in court. Oddly enough, Trump's team and supporters are 0 for 33 in doing just that...
Ah, yes. Perform the world's biggest election fraud, but make it so it's easily proven in court.
 

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Ah, yes. Perform the world's biggest election fraud, but make it so it's easily proven in court.
You do realize conspiracies get easier to prove the larger they are, right? More people in more places with more moving pieces means more weak links and opportunities for slip ups. The "world's biggest election fraud" should be the easiest case of election fraud to prove...

I'll leave it to be summarized by federal appeals court judge Stephanos Bibas (a Trump nominee) from a recent ruling on one of the Pennsylvania cases:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-pennsylvania/in-fresh-blow-to-trump-u-s-court-rejects-pennsylvania-election-case-idUSKBN2872AZ said:
“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so,”
[...]
“Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here,”
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Yeah, if only the judges would allow the evidence to be presented in court...
Because to even get to the evidentiary stage, plaintiffs must prove they have both standing and even the most threadbare of a case. Trump et al can't even manage that despite all their bluster.
 

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Yeah, if only the judges would allow the evidence to be presented in court...
See, I don't have you blocked.
If the evidence doesn’t meet the standard the court requires, out it goes. No judge worth their gavel will waste the time of the court or the people by letting sore losers tie up the court’s already limited time.
 

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Yeah, if only the judges would allow the evidence to be presented in court...
Evidence isn't being blocked; this is a lie.

Ah, yes. Perform the world's biggest election fraud, but make it so it's easily proven in court.
More credibility-defying: perform the world's biggest election fraud, and leave not a single trace that stands up in any court.
 

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Bluster? Deference to states? Man, he already sent unmarked federal agents into Portland earlier this year! Just add in the "protestors are seditious elements" and "quick and easy access to firing squads", and it's quite literally your nightmare taken life, except it's "your" president disappearing you.
I'm sure not one person has "disappeared" while the Portland matter you reference only happened when it became a Federal matter: https://nypost.com/2020/08/21/federal-courthouse-closed-in-portland-after-bomb-threat/
 

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Your timeline’s fucked, feds rolled in in force after the statue shit, which was July not August.
the monument federal law move was a power-play, was it an executive order?
 

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Your timeline’s fucked, feds rolled in in force after the statue shit, which was July not August.
I'm finding accusations that the rioters were threatening Federal property. Example:

" Although the federal courthouse has done nothing to provoke protesters and has been standing at the same spot since 1997, it has been a constant target. Protesters have smashed its glass doors, covered its exterior with graffiti, and repeatedly attempted to light it on fire. This has been happening since at least early July. "

And this is the sort of deference I'm talking about. How many statues were smashed, people terrorized, beaten and sent to the hospital, how many businesses burned because Trump, until there was a Federal issue, left the matter to the local Democrats.... who supported the violence. A lot.
 

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I'm finding accusations that the rioters were threatening Federal property. Example:

" Although the federal courthouse has done nothing to provoke protesters and has been standing at the same spot since 1997, it has been a constant target. Protesters have smashed its glass doors, covered its exterior with graffiti, and repeatedly attempted to light it on fire. This has been happening since at least early July. "

And this is the sort of deference I'm talking about. How many statues were smashed, people terrorized, beaten and sent to the hospital, how many businesses burned because Trump, until there was a Federal issue, left the matter to the local Democrats.... who supported the violence. A lot.
What... like in Hong Kong? China should definitely lock them all up for such behaviour
 

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I'm finding accusations that the rioters were threatening Federal property. Example:

" Although the federal courthouse has done nothing to provoke protesters and has been standing at the same spot since 1997, it has been a constant target. Protesters have smashed its glass doors, covered its exterior with graffiti, and repeatedly attempted to light it on fire. This has been happening since at least early July. "
Graffiti, broken windows, and fireworks (I’m not gonna humor the attempts to light it on fire as a legitimate criticism given the things pure fucking concrete). Yeah, this necessitated federal charges, random kidnapping, inventive methods for deploying experimental teargas, and egregious use of all manners of violence.
And this is the sort of deference I'm talking about. How many statues were smashed, people terrorized, beaten and sent to the hospital, how many businesses burned because Trump, until there was a Federal issue, left the matter to the local Democrats.... who supported the violence. A lot.
No businesses were burned down in Portland, most terrorizing was done by the cops, and fuck statues honestly. Finally, saying the “local Democrats” (which I will interpret as actual officials rather than insurgent candidates because otherwise we’re operating in conspiracy territory) supported the “violence” (the vast majority of the DHS recorded acts of violence were petty vandalism) is woefully inaccurate, given mayor Ted is the police commissioner and at no point did the Portland Police stop beating people every night.
Edit: honestly Gorf, read a fucking word by a Portlander who isn’t Andy Ngo or never say another word about it for the rest of your fucking life.
 
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