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A few thoughts about January 6, 2021
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I think this is more McConnell stabbing Trump in the front, not the back.
I think it's clear that McConnell has not ever liked or respected Trump. I don't think he's had any interest whatsoever in Trump's political agenda. McConnell protected Trump where it was within the interests of the wider Republican party to do so, said the right things at the right times for the best interests of the Republican party, and generally did very little else for Trump. I don't think you could point to any cordiality or detailed co-ordination between Trump and McConnell, just the basic minimum of a working relationship.
One of the marks of Trump's incompetence is that he really did get so little done. High on that list of general failure is how little he passed through the legislature. He barely seems to have had a legislative agenda for all it got results. He got that tax bill through (consistent with Republican agenda), and the criminal justice bill - but originated as a bipartisan Congressional endeavour that Trump had to be persuaded into backing (by Kim Kardashian, of all people). Very little else of note. Trump had plenty of power and plenty of influence, and mostly he just pissed it straight down the drain with empty public boasting.
He's just cutting ties with trump now that it's politically expedient for him to do so. Now that trump has no power, and is actually a liability to his party, it's prudent for him to do this. That's the only reason this happened.
Yeah, that one. The one that's been floating around for years. Written by a retired businessman who worked for Xerox and Mobil among other major corporations, who after finishing that career dedicated his efforts to left-wing politics and business dealings with Russia. Who wrote the list deliberately to go "man, Bush is a fascist, amirite?", not because that list of characteristics is in any way meaningful. Then his list was passed around by libertarians for a while who upgraded him to a Dr., and then passed over to far-lefties who made him a Dr. of political science, and none of these groups playing telephone with propaganda has ever had the permission of the author or journal it came from to spread it this way. They don't even spell "Laurence" correctly.
Sharing that list is the equivalent of mailing your contact list an email telling them to forward to their 10 closest friends or they'll be haunted by ghost fascists.
If whoever you're speaking to doesn't like those, you can also point them to here
Fascism | Definition, Meaning, Characteristics, Examples, & History | Britannica
Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and was characterized by extreme militant nationalism, hatred of communism and socialism, contempt for democracy, and belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites.
www.britannica.com
There's still a lot of overlap.
There's a lot of overlap with anything. You want to go down that list and see how many line items apply to users here?If whoever you're speaking to doesn't like those, you can also point them to here
Fascism | Definition, Meaning, Characteristics, Examples, & History | Britannica
Fascism, political ideology and mass movement that dominated central, southern, and eastern Europe between 1919 and 1945 and was characterized by extreme militant nationalism, hatred of communism and socialism, contempt for democracy, and belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites.
There's still a lot of overlap.
Opposition to parliamentary democracy?
Opposition to political liberalism?
Mass mobilization?
Glorification of youth?
Education as character building?
Populism?
Revolutionary Image?
The whole trick is to find an arbitrary list of claimed commonalities between two things and declare them the same thing based on that. Do I think some users here are fascists because they see themselves as revolutionaries supporting popular movements and cursing the failure of liberalism? No. That's silly. And exactly why that list of 14 points was, at different times, championed by completely opposite political groups, all trying to say the more moderate people were fascists the whole time.
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Well, at least Trump didn't pardon the idiots who stormed the Capitol. Honestly, I didn't expect him to (there's no money in it for him, and all the people who got caught are "losers" and Trump doesn't like losers), but it sure seems like the insurrectionists did.
Well, considering there's some merit to idea that Trump never expected to win in 2016(He was apparently gonna go to Scotland on Election day) and thus didn't have any transition team or plan in place when he did win, there's also the fact he never seemed like he had any real interest in doing the damn job in the first place. He loved the power, he loved the bully pulpit, he loved the privileges' but as to the actual work, that was stupid boring shit to him. Notice a lot of what he did do was sign executive orders(which can now be rescinded the same way by Biden) because that's easy and doesn't require him to actually work with/bully congress.
Which makes Clinton's defeat extra humiliating. Not only did she lose to an openly corrupt and blatantly incompetent businessman, but she also lost to one that didn't even try to beat her.
Oh, he assuredly tried to beat her. He's pathologically incapable of taking defeat well.
I can believe he threw his hat in the ring for the Republican primaries prepared to cause a stir (raise attention and $$$) rather than win, as it was a relatively low stakes gambit where he would be able to walk away rather than go into a final vote and lose. However, once he realised he was the frontrunner, he was in it to win it all the way. That still never translated into interest in governance and putting the work in, though.
Michael Flynn's brother was present on a call discussing the military response to the Capitol siege, despite the Army denying it for days: WaPo
An Army official told The Post on January 12 that Charles Flynn "WAS NOT IN ANY OF THE MEETINGS" discussing the military response to the Capitol siege.
Pipe bombs found near Capitol on January 6 were placed the night before, FBI says
Two pipe bombs near the Democratic and Republican party headquarters discovered on January 6 were planted the night before the insurrection at the Capitol, the FBI said Friday.
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Hard to continue the "We didn't know January 6th was going to de-escalate to that point" when you have more and more proof that it was all premeditated.
That's funny-- I'm surprised you consider a long career in big business and business dealings with Russia to be warning signs.
I'm not suggesting the man was some sort of Russian plant, just that it's a conflict of interest when someone who made their money setting up business deals with Soviets writes a piece suggesting America is fascist.
Like, I have no problem with the suggestion that Trump might have sucked-up to Russia because he wanted to build a hotel in Moscow. Well, other than hindsight telling us Trump didn't do a whole lot of sucking up to Russia. But the suggestion that he was being told what to do by Putin because he was being blackmailed with footage of prostitutes pissing on a hotel bed... that's a dumb thing to believe.
So I'm not saying the author was some tool of Russia working for their interests, I'm saying he stood to make money from diminishing American nationalism.
I know when someone is trying to passive aggressively insult me and I can say with absolute confidence that I do not view the education system as character building in the slightest. I view it as a waste of time. Quite different.
You should look up the last time the capitol was bombed, and look at where those people are today. One of them is on the board of BLM. Another one of them hosted an event for Obama's campaign.
History is written by the victor.
If you're talking about Susan Rosenberg, this isn't quite true.
Also, y’know, she went to jail for it, has renounced her previous actions, and it’s been forty years.
Edit: to echo the earlier post, history is written by the victor and she lost.
Just some random history trivia you happen to have on hand? What hellish sub-reddit did you first hear that referenced?