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Hking0036 said:
Stryc9 said:
I would like to think that the justices are all intelligent people who will see that this law violates the First Amendment and is unconstitutional.
I completely agree with you and i hope they should realize it that way.
Yeah all of the Justices are big fans of the constituion. But I also agree that people have to use "unconstitutional" less. I mean here its fine but on alcohol taxes? C'mon you guys have half a brain right?
 

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archvile93 said:
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So? That just means they'll most likely do what the president wants. So what's the president's take on this then?
The current Justices weren't all appointed by Obama, at least one was appointed by Bush Jr. and Clinton and Bush Sr. and so on. They will not, and do not have to do what the President says.

It's like Starke and MaxPowers666 have said, there's no telling what decision they're gonna come up with and we probably won't know tomorrow. I'll say that it's up in the air what they'll do but I'm thinking they'll come down on the side of the Constitution here and not what the idiot scare-mongering watchdog groups want.
 

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archvile93 said:
Stryc9 said:
I would like to think that the justices are all intelligent people who will see that this law violates the First Amendment and is unconstitutional.
Politicians? intelligent? HAHAHAHAHA!

Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I wish I knew how to embed things right now.

OT: I hope they come to the right decision, but I'm not placing any bets on it.
It's the USSC, not "politicians". There's a difference.
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ProfessorLayton said:
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I hope it passes. Theres a reason it says 17+
There's also a reason it says 13+. But, if I remember correctly, those games would be banned as well.

The ratings system is weird, anyway. The fact that a game like Halo is grouped on the same level as Heavy Rain is messed up indeed.
Is it banned outright or just banned to those who don't meet the age requirements?
Theoretically just for those who don't meet the age requirements, but, in that case there would be a "chilling effect" on the industry. So, it would effectivly expand into being an outright ban.
 

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It's idiotic. Minors have to have their parents with them to get M rated games, why would you ban the selling of any game? It's stupid and it does violate my constitutional rights. If we are going to annoy the game industry with this bullshit, then why not annoy the movies industry? I'm sixteen and the theaters let me into R rated movies without an adult.

I did a speech for my Speech class oddly enough about the effect of video games on minors and if it actually causes violence. Oddly enough, statistics prove it does not. They do these violence tests on little kids, six year olds, and if I remember correctly, when I was that age I was pretending to be the Men in Black. Six year olds are impressionable. So if you keep the current system and let parents have a better grasp of how video games are rated and all that kind of stuff, then maybe we wouldn't have to worry about this stupidity.
 

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Stryc9 said:
archvile93 said:
*snip*
So? That just means they'll most likely do what the president wants. So what's the president's take on this then?
The current Justices weren't all appointed by Obama, at least one was appointed by Bush Jr. and Clinton and Bush Sr. and so on. They will not, and do not have to do what the President says.

It's like Starke and MaxPowers666 have said, there's no telling what decision they're gonna come up with and we probably won't know tomorrow. I'll say that it's up in the air what they'll do but I'm thinking they'll come down on the side of the Constitution here and not what the idiot scare-mongering watchdog groups want.
It looks like the 9th circuit ruling will be upheld. In part because California decided not to appeal their least restrictive alternative (which the 9th also struck down).

The biggest danger here is a split ruling, where both sides get some of the things they want, but my recollection is that that kind of ruling hasn't been in vogue for over a century.

What is disappointing (to me) is that neither side seems to have really done a good job with their cases. California never managed to shake the issue with films or the vagueness of the definition, and the EMA never manged to get the debate off children buying video games.

EDIT: ...or that the best solution in this case would be through more support from non-state actors.

There's some really funny stuff in the transcript if you have the hour to burn reading it, and enough familiarity with constitutional law to follow it.
 

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archvile93 said:
Stryc9 said:
I would like to think that the justices are all intelligent people who will see that this law violates the First Amendment and is unconstitutional.
Politicians? intelligent? HAHAHAHAHA!

Oh wait, you're serious. Let me laugh harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I wish I knew how to embed things right now.

OT: I hope they come to the right decision, but I'm not placing any bets on it.
Supreme Court judges aren't politicians. They actually went to college and earned legit degrees. And they also (usually) understand the Constitution.
 

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Umm decisions for SCOTUS don't come until March through June. That's a long wait.

It should also be noted that Leeland Yee (the guy who wrote the law) has stated that if he looses he will use the opinion of the judges to help him craft a new law. I voted for this Jackass and now I'm sorry I did. There are more important things out there then this for our legislators to address.