10 Things Most Americans Don?t Know About America

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jamesbrown

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Vault101 said:
that was really really interesting

and its funny because I'm Australian and TBH I actually would be kind of facinated if I met an American
from which part of america? each state is different, and each city is different; I am sure its the same in australia; if you do come to america I suggest driving top to bottom on the coasts and east to west across; The west coast is beautiful esp. along US-101 and US-395 DONT TAKE THE I-5 unless you want to get from seattle to LA in 2 days

BTW: I am from Los Angeles, CA, USA
 

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Vault101 said:
that was really really interesting

and its funny because I'm Australian and TBH I actually would be kind of facinated if I met an American
Nice to meet you sir, I'm an American. We've disagreed on subjects time to time but I'm a person and you're a person too, crazy right? Well it was nice to meet you. Have fun in your country and I'll try in mine. (Translation: Sup bro.)
 

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yogibbear said:
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You should have seen the congress upheavel over airport security a few years ago, it was crazy; we hate it more because we return to our own country and experience the rediculousness (for that matter airport to airport) also although we have our 300+ pound people; we also (I believe) are one of the only countrys with ultra-marathoning with such large support, my dad is one. Also because I live in Los Angeles I find it werid when people say "I don't drive everywhere" where in LA a car is nesscary; whereas in NY people walk everywhere because the streets are crowed; or seattle where public transportion is a way of life; or concrete, WA where cars are very unnessary

Also thanks for realizing we are extremly diverse; on everything
seriously watch American news sometimes you'll see just how diverse we are examples: MSNBC, CNN, FOX news, CBS, NBC, ABC, Current, Daily show/ colbert, seriously we spend almost 60% of our time talking about our opinons
 

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yogibbear said:
USA = 10-15 minutes
I'm a Canadian with dual citizenship because my father was born in the US, and I always get stuck at US customs. Apparently they think their country is so great that anyone coming to visit has to be planning to stay illegally. That or blow something up.

Trust me when I say that I've visited the US enough to know I don't want to stay longer than I have to.
 
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4. We Are Poor At Expressing Gratitude And Affection

There's a saying about English-speakers. We say "Go fuck yourself," when we really mean "I like you," and we say "I like you," when we really mean "Go fuck yourself."

Outside of getting shit-housed drunk and screaming "I LOVE YOU, MAN!", open displays of affection in American culture are tepid and rare. Latin and some European cultures describe us as "cold" and "passionless" and for good reason. In our social lives we don't say what we mean and we don't mean what we say.

In our culture, appreciation and affection are implied rather than spoken outright. Two guy friends call each other names to reinforce their friendship; men and women tease and make fun of each other to imply interest. Feelings are almost never shared openly and freely. Consumer culture has cheapened our language of gratitude. Something like, "It's so good to see you" is empty now because it's expected and heard from everybody.

In dating, when I find a woman attractive, I almost always walk right up to her and tell her that a) I wanted to meet her, and b) she's beautiful. In America, women usually get incredibly nervous and confused when I do this. They'll make jokes to defuse the situation or sometimes ask me if I'm part of a TV show or something playing a prank. Even when they're interested and go on dates with me, they get a bit disoriented when I'm so blunt with my interest. Whereas, in almost every other culture approaching women this way is met with a confident smile and a "Thank you."
This is probably the most frustrating aspect of the United States. Even as someone who has lived there throughout his life, I still have no clue how to effectively communicate with other people here. Saying what you mean is the WRONG thing to do. And it pisses me off to no end.

And naturally, this works both ways. Multiplying the BS factor. If I gave a compliment to someone, "Thank you" isn't a polite gesture, It's a quick way to dismiss someone.
 

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Yassen said:
Thank you for posting this. This is an article I would have most likely (read:definitely not) not seen. It was quite interesting and I have to agree with most, if not all, of what was observed. So again, thanks for putting this on the Escapist so my comfortably lazy ass can easily find and enjoy its content.
 

neoontime

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Uh, things got ugly in this thread. Bottom line big generalization for the more vocal problems of the US. This articles somewhat a waste of time since many Americans know this but really I guess it does no harm. I mean it can be informant to those few who are the audience the writer speaks, of course assuming their able to finish it with their assumed American pride.
 

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This list ultimately depends on who you ask, where they are from, and a combination of many factors.

I know the world doesn't hate us as some former friends of mine are likely to attest, but... if the world did hate us why should we honestly care? Opinions are opinions. Not every foreigners opinion is worth their weight in gold, nor is everyone else necessarily educated.
 

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I don't honestly believe Americans (on average) are much more arrogant, uninformed or self-deluded about their country than anyone else. Australians, Brits and the Japanese can all be pretty obnoxious too, and that's just in my personal experience.

But unlike everyone else, the US is so supremely visible; US pop culture is basically global pop culture. That means their dirty laundry is hanging in everyone else's yard, and every negative thing about the country is crammed down the world's throat. If Brisbane people got half the coverage LA people did, you'd all think we were ignorant tosspots as well.
 

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That few people hate Americans is true, but the sheer volume of their cultural exports means that half the world has a first impression of them - one usually provided from the Americans themselves, and rarely flattering. I don't think anyone would condemn the US purely over a few subjective cultural traits, but the political and economic trends that they impose on the rest of the world are certainly open for criticism.

I know that in my own country working hours have been getting longer, salaries have been shrinking, job security became non-existent, worker's rights are infringed upon daily, and a few dozen "entrepreneurs" have been reaping millions off of this (and none of them are "ingenious", but merely assertive, aggressive, and opportunistic). Everyone identifies this trend as "becoming more like America," and it's genuinely scary. It feels like the field is being rigged so that the unscrupulous get rich, and the rest are at a disadvantage.

A trend I'm personally freaked out by is the American disdain for the 40-hour work week. It's a sentiment that's slowly creeping all over the globe, essentially associating organized labour and labour rights with "laziness." It also sets up the assumption that everyone's life has to revolve around their jobs, and that everyone dreams to be a millionaire (which is untrue and, frankly, insulting).
 

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DarkRyter said:
Generalisations.

Generalizations as far as the eye can see.

From sea to shining sea.
After reading the article I expected to see some being dismissive, but so quickly and so completely? Bravo!
 

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4. We Are Poor At Expressing Gratitude And Affection

There?s a saying about English-speakers. We say ?Go fuck yourself,? when we really mean ?I like you,? and we say ?I like you,? when we really mean ?Go fuck yourself.?

Outside of getting shit-housed drunk and screaming ?I LOVE YOU, MAN!?, open displays of affection in American culture are tepid and rare. Latin and some European cultures describe us as ?cold? and ?passionless? and for good reason. In our social lives we don?t say what we mean and we don?t mean what we say.

In our culture, appreciation and affection are implied rather than spoken outright. Two guy friends call each other names to reinforce their friendship; men and women tease and make fun of each other to imply interest. Feelings are almost never shared openly and freely. Consumer culture has cheapened our language of gratitude. Something like, ?It?s so good to see you? is empty now because it?s expected and heard from everybody.
As I have been a swiss resident for the past four years, i have to disagree with this one. The swiss are particularly unfreindly and reserved, and find my american attitude uncomfortably affectionate.
 

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Darkmantle said:
Marowit said:
You're right, the 10+ years of medical/surgical training I do after undergrad shouldn't be reimbursed at all. You provide a compelling alternative...?
doctors make quite a lot here in Canada actually, we aren't paying them pennies. Public health care is the government putting aside money for medical care to pay doctors, not just stiffing them on the bill.
Med school also doesn't cost $55,000 in tuition, not including room & board in Canada
 

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Imp Emissary said:
Oh, I certainly didn't take it the wrong way - I enjoy talking about this stuff because I think most people don't realize how complex of a problem it is.

Thanks for the complement, it took m e forever to figure out how to make it a gif...I am terrible at that stuff.
 

IamLEAM1983

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I've traveled a bit and yeah, some of these points are generalizations. Sure, you'll find your average Fox News drone who screams "AMERICA!" with pretty idiotic levels of pride and patriotism - but they're pretty rare, overall. Most Americans are just horribly average people leading horribly average lives.

You know; like the rest of us. I'd always like to work up enough energy to roll my eyes at the more flag-waving types, but the truth is Canada has its own share of excessive patriots. It used to be you had to stay close to Alberta to get the staunch Federalists to come out of the woodwork, but Stephen Harper's vision of Canada is pushing for a more generalized form of pride that does have the disadvantage of leaving folks like me, native French Canadians by birth, feeling more than a little excluded.

Going by his reforms, you're not a red-blooded Canadian if you don't speak English, glorify the image of Canada being a handsomely rugged and uniformly picturesque place to live in, or don't happen to miss the Colonialist days.

Sorry Stephen, but my ancestors all come from France, I speak French as my native language, I don't give two shits about Alberta's oil monopoly and don't think we have any reason to be proud of it, and you won't get me to say we need to start kowtowing to some old crown-wearing English biddy.

We've got our own identity. I'm not intent on being considered as "British by proxy", unlike you.

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