125km to the nearest hospital- wait, WHAT!?

[Ninjamedic]

Dare I say I am amazed that the whole ambulance system in Ireland seems to depend on the cars being dispatched from the hospitals. While that may be nice and everything for cities it seems like such a waste of time in the countryside.
What's wrong with a small base in the county where a few ambulances are stationed? At least you'd have something then.

In rural areas the government and councils lack any common sense or motivation into transport, so we now have a neglected labyrinth of small roads. What should be a basic drive to a place 20km away as the crow flies can take up to an hour. That's the most significant problem with the closure.

 

[Ninjamedic]

Why don't they just put a hospital in the middle of Ireland and then EVERYONE is close to a hospital.

They only care about Dublin, if there is ever a public works scheme it has to benefit Dublin. Even public transport is like this, If I decide to use a train to get to Galway I have to go an hour IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION then get a switch.

And I live in the mid-west.

 

[Cyanin]

As someone living in Dublin, I completely agree. For far too long consecutive governments have decided to build up Dublin and what's basically the Pale. Commuters and city people get all the benefits whereas rural areas and particularly fringe counties in Munster, Connacht and Ulster have to rely on local enterprise and tourists who want to see the 'real' Ireland.

I agree Fine Gael have done nothing to reverse a trend kept up by previous parties and committed a cardinal sin by saying they would do one thing and instead doing the other. Unfortunately, the time we had in a boom wasn't used effectively to revitalise rural areas and even the other cities we have in Ireland. Therefore, there's little we can do now to help a struggling economy and the cycle of unemployment blackspots and rural emigration will continue.

I think this idea of closing a rural hospital and opening one in Dublin "for the children" is a bullshit, insulting proposal that should've been put beside the former Roscommon A&E or somewhere in the Midlands.

The main point is the government needs to find ways of getting people out of Dublin, the city itself is overpopulated. Drawing people to different parts of the country will be a limited solution to the disparity of our own "East of the Bann" policy, Protecting the Pale.

 

[Ninjamedic]

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THANK YOU, I thought I had gone raving mad. All this centrist BS is going to do is eventually cripple the country's industries and public services. Busaras is a testament to that.

 

[Quaxar]

Dare I say I am amazed that the whole ambulance system in Ireland seems to depend on the cars being dispatched from the hospitals. While that may be nice and everything for cities it seems like such a waste of time in the countryside.
What's wrong with a small base in the county where a few ambulances are stationed? At least you'd have something then.

In rural areas the government and councils lack any common sense or motivation into transport, so we now have a neglected labyrinth of small roads. What should be a basic drive to a place 20km away as the crow flies can take up to an hour. That's the most significant problem with the closure.

Right then. I guess at least the morgue business will be booming.

 

[Binerexis]

Maybe you should be taking to the streets and rallying protests rather than posting about it on the internet.

 

[Cyanin]

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THANK YOU, I thought I had gone raving mad. All this centrist BS is going to do is eventually cripple the country's industries and public services. Busaras is a testament to that.

It's a serious problem though. The issue is centred on the government wants foreign investment for more jobs. But what's a better way of getting investments? Throwing a load of reasonable locations at an possible investor? Or showing them Dublin, a modern fucking enterprise that's been done up to the nines. Ignore that it's now swelling with people, barely affordable accommodation, crime, estates with something Joan Burton (in Thatcher-esque quality) spoke about earlier in the week, people living off the dole.

It's an amorphous blob of stupid investment and poorly placed cutbacks that shows the ineptness of people in what they thought was an endless boom.

 

[Cyanin]

Maybe you should be taking to the streets and rallying protests rather than posting about it on the internet.

I'm pretty sure that's already being sorted. You can always rely on Irish people to complain, there's a march on the cards, I can feel it. =P

 

[Ninjamedic]

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THANK YOU, I thought I had gone raving mad. All this centrist BS is going to do is eventually cripple the country's industries and public services. Busaras is a testament to that.

It's a serious problem though. The issue is centred on the government wants foreign investment for more jobs. But what's a better way of getting investments? Throwing a load of reasonable locations at an possible investor? Or showing them Dublin, a modern fucking enterprise that's been done up to the nines. Ignore that it's now swelling with people, barely affordable accommodation, crime, estates with something Joan Burton (in Thatcher-esque quality) spoke about earlier in the week, people living off the dole.

It's an amorphous blob of stupid investment and poorly placed cutbacks that shows the ineptness of people in what they thought was an endless boom.

We need a luas in the west, or put the central bus/train station in athlone.

 

[Ninjamedic]

Maybe you should be taking to the streets and rallying protests rather than posting about it on the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OuodYfheis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3zNQXFw2RQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myQSRLXGRqk

I just wanted to add something to discuss.

 

[Cyanin]

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THANK YOU, I thought I had gone raving mad. All this centrist BS is going to do is eventually cripple the country's industries and public services. Busaras is a testament to that.

It's a serious problem though. The issue is centred on the government wants foreign investment for more jobs. But what's a better way of getting investments? Throwing a load of reasonable locations at an possible investor? Or showing them Dublin, a modern fucking enterprise that's been done up to the nines. Ignore that it's now swelling with people, barely affordable accommodation, crime, estates with something Joan Burton (in Thatcher-esque quality) spoke about earlier in the week, people living off the dole.

It's an amorphous blob of stupid investment and poorly placed cutbacks that shows the ineptness of people in what they thought was an endless boom.

We need a luas in the west, or put the central bus/train station in athlone.

That's a simple step to a real bloody solution. But try pitching that to CIE, business is business.. First step to getting investment in a rural area is transport. Then people, then comes all that fluff. It's just for the money to become available. Such a bloody shame.

 

[Ninjamedic]

That's a simple step to a real bloody solution. But try pitching that to CIE, business is business.. First step to getting investment in a rural area is transport. Then people, then comes all that fluff. It's just for the money to become available. Such a bloody shame.

Another good idea would be to sort out the rail links, I'm fed up of having to transfer at Athlone to get a train to Galway.

 

[Ninjamedic]

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And people wonder why I'm insane. You know how fucked a country is when a former IRA commander makes an attempt the become the Taoiseach. Also look at Cyanin's post, sums up why our governments cannot plan public works schemes to save their lives.

 

[imperialus]

And an Air Ambulance could probably cover the distance too and from Dublin in under 2.5 miles, furthermore if it is a serious life threatening emergency they can receive treatment from a non-A&E hospital while waiting for transport, so the move shouldn't be endangering them too much.

You've never seen the Road system in the west, When I said 2.5 hours, i meant galway, dublin could be up to 4 depending on traffic.

Luckily, Air Ambulances don't need roads

They're all being used only for the coastal guard.........

Much as I hate the idea of private charity being forced to provide something that should be a government responsibility, I'm from a pretty empty part of a big country. We have an organization called STARS air ambulance that is an entirely non profit charity relying on volunteer doctors, paramedics, and pilots while doing annual fundraisers and lotteries to maintain their fleet of helicopters. They've operated successfully for over 25 years, and I couldn't even imagine how many lives they've saved.

 

[Zanaxal]

Sucks they closed it down, i find it funny however that people expect hospitals to be everywhere like it was a cornerstore. Our hospitals are usually too sucky when it comes to different fields that they end up just sending people to another one by chopper to get somewhere with relevant equipment. Bigger better funded is better then loads of small ones with no equipment but i guess people want a hospital in their backgarden then moving close to one if your prone to health problems.

 

[Ninjamedic]

Much as I hate the idea of private charity being forced to provide something that should be a government responsibility, I'm from a pretty empty part of a big country. We have an organization called STARS air ambulance that is an entirely non profit charity relying on volunteer doctors, paramedics, and pilots while doing annual fundraisers and lotteries to maintain their fleet of helicopters. They've operated successfully for over 25 years, and I couldn't even imagine how many lives they've saved.

I predict something along the same line may start up here.

 

[Ninjamedic]

Seems to me, as a filthy Brit, that there are still plenty of aspects about the place defined by a hatred of... well, us, really, as well as catholocism. correct me if I'm wrong here, but that's the impression I get.

You honestly have no idea, there are people I know who still prat on about the famine as a war crime committed by the queen. And I'm part-english (Born in Manchester, Irish family, lived here for 11 years).

Also, Taoiseach? How in christ do you pronounce some of your words?

It gets better, An Taoiseach is the term we use for the Irish Prime minister coined during the 1930's when Eamon De Valera (leader of Fianna Fail) had total control for 20 years. It is Irish for "the leader". Directly translated into German it becomes Der Fuhrer. Let that sink in.