15 year old girl kills herself after persistent bullying

[DugMachine]

Man is this sad. Can't say I enjoy those depressing post card videos on youtube as they all pretty much imply they're going to kill themselves but never do and then this happens.

Wonder how many more kids have to kill themselves before parents raise their kids to not be fucking assholes and bully people to the edge.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

I don't know, does it really count if the one with said pornography is under the age of consent themselves? Not sure, but I can't imagine that it doesn't matter.

I'm sure it impacts the charges, but it certainly doesn't matter in terms of police interest. I can't remember the specifics, but there was a case a while back where a bunch of people filmed some underage sex at a rave and posted it online, and there were pretty swift and punitive legal repercussions.

 

[DoPo]

I like how everyone is seemingly assuming that this bully was a adult and not some teenager hoping to see some more with his/her leverage.

I like how the conclusion you came to was actually a non sequitur. So...meta.

OT: Hindsight is 20/20 and so on but she could have looked for help. Obviously the videos, drugs and alcohol she did were that, but she could have been more...obvious. Maybe then things would have turned out for the better. Now it sucks.
EDIT:

The guy right above my post spoke of the "knocking on his door in the middle of the night".

Teenagers don't commonly have their own doors.

Also, it's how the phrase goes. Beyond that, what's a better way of phrasing it "Knock on the door of their parents house, where he has his own room"? Colloquial usage of "somebody's door" includes the possibility that they don't actually own the door. A tad too pedantic reading here.

There is also:

"I am amazed she didn't black mail the person right back threatening to send them to prison for child pornography."

I don't know, does it really count if the one with said pornography is under the age of consent themselves? Not sure, but I can't imagine that it doesn't matter.

Erm, it's still child pornography, though. Depends on the country, I suppose, but you were the one who didn't acknowledge the possibility in the first place.

Also, it was being spread. Do you really believe that the law would be OK with that?

 

[generals3]

I don't want to be "that guy" but according to the article she was posting explicit videos and photos of herself online and got upset when some guy shared them with "everyone". Something tells me alot this could of been avoided if she wasn't an attention whore and kept her clothes on.

She was what...12 or so at the time? Did you make a lot of intelligent decisions at that age?

If a girl does seek attention, does that mean she merits constant hounding and abuse until she's dead?

While such bullying is never acceptable one could use your argument in favor of the bullies. Obviously they were also "young" and as such they obviously make stupid decisions. Like using one's stupid decision as a mean to bully him/her.

Weird captcha.... please pick "which one does not belong" , only option "emo kid"......

 

[BloatedGuppy]

While such bullying is never acceptable one could use your argument in favor of the bullies. Obviously they were also "young" and as such they obviously make stupid decisions. Like using one's stupid decision as a mean to bully him/her.

Yeah, the problem here is your analogue. You're attempting to collate showing your breasts to a stranger, once, with tormenting someone for months/years until that person kills themselves.

I'm sure I don't need to explain to you why one of them very easily falls under the umbrella of understandable poor decisions, and another does not.

 

[mlbslugger06]

While it is a sad thing that a young woman would view suicide as her only option to find peace, people cannot put the blame on these bullies. They did not make her commit suicide, nor did they give her that idea. She decided, she reacted, and she died. There is no one forcing her.

 

[Yopaz]

I don't want to be "that guy" but according to the article she was posting explicit videos and photos of herself online and got upset when some guy shared them with "everyone". Something tells me alot this could of been avoided if she wasn't an attention whore and kept her clothes on.

She was what...12 or so at the time? Did you make a lot of intelligent decisions at that age?

If a girl does seek attention, does that mean she merits constant hounding and abuse until she's dead?

While such bullying is never acceptable one could use your argument in favor of the bullies. Obviously they were also "young" and as such they obviously make stupid decisions. Like using one's stupid decision as a mean to bully him/her.

Weird captcha.... please pick "which one does not belong" , only option "emo kid"......

Sure, kids bully because they don't know how much it hurts the other person. However when someone says he got an explicit picture and threatens to show it to everyone she knows unless she puts on a show for him then he clearly knows that showing this picture will hurt her. He might not have been aware of the chance that she would commit suicide, but he clearly knew what he was doing.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

While it is a sad thing that a young woman would view suicide as her only option to find peace, people cannot put the blame on these bullies. They did not make her commit suicide, nor did they give her that idea. She decided, she reacted, and she died. There is no one forcing her.

Actually the taunting/bullying continued long after her first suicide attempt, with entreaties for her to try again.

I'm a big advocate of personal responsibility, but there is an element of culpability there. Most particularly on the part of the original culprit, who was breaking laws all over the place when he distributed her picture.

 

[Fappy]

While it is a sad thing that a young woman would view suicide as her only option to find peace, people cannot put the blame on these bullies. They did not make her commit suicide, nor did they give her that idea. She decided, she reacted, and she died. There is no one forcing her.

Except many did give her the idea. Did you watch the video? She explicitly "says" that people were saying they hoped she died.

 

[DrunkOnEstus]

I hope there isn't a major backlash, but there's a lot to learn here about the ramifications involved when children aged 11-14 can carry around cell phones with cameras, access facebook and similar things at every minute of the day, and how damaging people can be when they think they're doing it "for the lulz". I can't fathom what joy one would get out of following someone from city to city, raking up their past and shoving it in their face on a daily basis.

Maybe I'm just old and some younger people who have had this kind of technology essentially their whole life won't understand me, but there are bad youthful judgement calls that are way too easy to make that are permanent and extremely damaging. This whole thing makes me ask where the parents were in all this. After having to change schools multiple times, the bleach drinking, the cutting...how do you not notice? How does someone post a video the way she did and it not set off an alarm for anyone?

 

[icythepenguin]

I don't know, does it really count if the one with said pornography is under the age of consent themselves? Not sure, but I can't imagine that it doesn't matter.

I'm sure it impacts the charges, but it certainly doesn't matter in terms of police interest. I can't remember the specifics, but there was a case a while back where a bunch of people filmed some underage sex at a rave and posted it online, and there were pretty swift and punitive legal repercussions.

There was a case a few years ago where two teenagers were charged with possession of child pornography after sexting each other. It doesn't matter the age of the person who has the image, it is child pornography if the person in the image is under 18.

I read this story on the CBC website and it stated that the police informed the girl about the picture being sent to everyone but didn't mention anything about the police arresting/charging the sender. So the police were involved when it came to picture but no mention of child porn charges regarding it. Hopefully they did actually charge the person for at least distributing if not for possession of the image.

 

[Overusedname]

While it is a sad thing that a young woman would view suicide as her only option to find peace, people cannot put the blame on these bullies. They did not make her commit suicide, nor did they give her that idea. She decided, she reacted, and she died. There is no one forcing her.

Except many did give her the idea. Did you watch the video? She explicitly "says" that people were saying they hoped she died.

^What he said.

I wish I grew up in the magical land of the privileged and the lucky where bullying apparently doesn't happen.

 

[Lucem712]

Sometimes threads like this can show how cold we've become. Regardless, this is very sad, as is any situation where someone decides that taking their life a better option.

Reminds me of a student, when I was in 5th grade, he was as well. He committed suicide with a shotgun
It was hard to fathom, especially at that age, how depressed he was.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

So yes, I'd say the whole "young person doing something stupid" defense works for the bully too.

Your impassioned defense of bullying is duly noted.