2 NYPD Officers "Executed" by man claiming revenge for Garner and Brown

[Veylon]

Is this a real issue? A quick check a the National Law Officers Memorial Fund [http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html] shows that the number of officers killed in 2013 was 100. An even hundred.

And while it's tragic that anyone be killed for any reason, it's also the lowest it's been since 1944. Aside from '43 and '44, you have to go back over a century to find a decade where the average number of police killed in a year is below a hundred.

So I have to question whether this is something we need to be yelling and screaming about. It appears to be a shrinking problem, not a growing one. The darkest days for the police - in terms of absolute numbers - were the 70's.

 

[TakerFoxx]

Is this a real issue? A quick check a the National Law Officers Memorial Fund [http://www.nleomf.org/facts/officer-fatalities-data/year.html] shows that the number of officers killed in 2013 was 100. An even hundred.

And while it's tragic that anyone be killed for any reason, it's also the lowest it's been since 1944. Aside from '43 and '44, you have to go back over a century to find a decade where the average number of police killed in a year is below a hundred.

So I have to question whether this is something we need to be yelling and screaming about. It appears to be a shrinking problem, not a growing one. The darkest days for the police - in terms of absolute numbers - were the 70's.

It's more of a case of this killing being a direct response to the whole Brown/Garnier controversy rather than a random incident and thus probably a sign of more violence to come.

 

[madwarper]

How is my post in any way toxic?

Because you're going into a situation with a predisposed notion that the cops are going to be a dick. You treat them as though they were dicks, and it is likely to become a self fulfilling prophecy.

Given the fact

Yeah, let's just cut that bullshit out right now. The *FACT* is that there are two sides to every story. And, that you choose to blindly take your friends version of events as truth without so much as a critical thought. Perhaps, you might want to stop projecting your own sheepishness onto me.

Or, you could, and suggest it to your fiends too, start and and every interaction with the police with kindness and respect, rather than with an attitude.

This does not reflect on the actions of those protesting against police violence. One person claiming to act for a movement does not mean the movement endorses that person's actions.

You know what? You're absolutely correct. The actions of this one deranged asshole doesn't speak for the "protestors".

Though, you know what DOES speak volumes about the "protestors"? Their own words.

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[madwarper]

@madwarper Resorting to victim blaming already are we?Typical of a cop apologist.

No. I don't "victim blame". Because, in order to do that, I'd have to sheepishly believe your friends and their claims of being victims in the first place, like you already do.

However, I'm actually capable of critical thought and question the veracity of the statements of both you and your friends. Though, if I were to hear such one sided stories of from friends mine on the police force, I would, in like manner, question their version of events.

 

[JarinArenos]

It's more of a case of this killing being a direct response to the whole Brown/Garnier controversy rather than a random incident and thus probably a sign of more violence to come.

You mean like the St. Louis KKK calling for "friends who wear the badge" to take revenge for the two dead cops, mere hours before Antonio Martin's murder?

 

[Thaluikhain]

I honestly think the racial thing is almost a minor point. The police are murdering people who clearly didn't need to be murdered, often they weren't even doing anything wrong. That shit needs to stop now.

They happen to be shooting people of certain demographics a lot more than others, so it's not a minor point.

Mind you, not just race, there's problems with how they treat the homeless or mentally ill, for example, which currently aren't getting as much attention.

 

[JarinArenos]

It's more of a case of this killing being a direct response to the whole Brown/Garnier controversy rather than a random incident and thus probably a sign of more violence to come.

You mean like the St. Louis KKK calling for "friends who wear the badge" to take revenge for the two dead cops, mere hours before Antonio Martin's murder?

This is becoming borderline conspiracy level crap now.

I was just responding in kind. Feel free to join the fun.

 

[madwarper]

@madwarper Why would I have any reason not to believe my friends?

Because,_everyone tells stories with biases that favor themselves._And,_as I said,_there are two sides to every story,_while the truth lies somewhere in between._Since you obviously don't bother to go find the cop's versions of events,_you sheepishly accept your friends story with all their biases.

Like I said we're nice to the cops even when some are assholes.

Saying it's the truth and it being the truth are two different things._And,_since I've only got your word to go on,_it inherently comes with your own biases._Which I question,_because I don't have any of the cops,_with which you were supposedly nice towards,_to corroborate your claims.

Or are you implying they're liars simply because it was police officers involved?

Do you know the difference between simply being wrong and being a liar?_If you believe something to be true and report it to be true,_while it being false,_then you're simply wrong._Knowing something to be false,_but reporting it to be true,_makes you a liar.

So,_just because you and your friends believe you have been nice to the cops they've had interactions with,_doesn't necessarily make it true,_and doesn't make them liars.

Always believing police can do no wrong and when the evidence is shoved in their face they make excuses or imply the victims must've done something just like you did before.

Like I said,_if you had read my previous post,_I question the veracity of all one-sided stories._But,_it remains that you have yet to provide any "evidence" whatsoever._Hearsay is not evidence.

 

[madwarper]

So I guess you missed the part where I said one of the cops was suspended?

And,_do you have any proof of your claim?_Or,_am I supposed to believe everything you're saying,_simply because you've said it?

Whatever....

Indeed.

there's no point in even talking to someone who thinks two people who never blatantly lie would even make up some like being assaulted by police officers.

Again,_it's obvious that you didn't bother to actually read my previous post._So,_I don't know you,_and I don't know your friends,_I can't tell whether or not you or they are liars,_it doesn't mean I'm going to sheepishly take your word on anything without the least semblance of actual evidence.

I'm sure that one cop appreciates you jumping to his defense while he's on unpayed suspension for sexual misconduct.

I'm not jumping to anyone's defense._Because,_you haven't proved that this cop exists,_nor that the event happened,_nor that they were suspended._All I have is someone on the internet telling a tall tale.

Spoiler

Also,_space might be at a premium where you live,_but there's plenty of it out here._So, you can borrow some of mine and use it after punctuation.
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