2012 ...........the end?

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Novajam

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Apocalypse predections have been around for Millenia.
In the year 1000, The Gauls all thought they were going to die since it had been 1000 years since the death of Jesus.
 

Yassen

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It's funny, Assassins creed made me look this up and the world ending is all garbage. The mayans predicted an age ending and a new one beginning not the end of the world. However, there is merit in their prediction. Turns out on december 21st, 2012 the sun and the Earth aligns with the horizontal disk of our galaxy. last time this happened around 5000 years ago the first major civilisations of humanity showed up. So who knows, maybe something big will happen to advance society.

Frankly, I'm looking forward to it.
 

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KamikazeSailor said:
TheNecroswanson said:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.


Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside.

How is it that people in this forum get put on probation for trying to compare the Jedi and Master Chief, but when someone makes a post insulting an entire culture and an entirely seperate religion based on complete fucking ignorance there is no response?

It's weird, really... and seems to happen a lot... fucking hypocritical is what it is...
This isn't exactly ignorant. I've actually had people try to convert me to christianity because of this.
However, I did know some Germans who believed in the Y2K thing. So it wasn't only Americans.
 

Jon57

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I gotta laugh everytime I see this subject, since the Aztecs didn't predict the end of the world or civilization or anything else, all they did on this subject was create a calendar that ended in 2012.

Based on that evidence, on the wall of my computer "dungeon" (where I spend a plethora of time killing cyber AI enemies) there is a calendar from the supreme being of time (aka the local drug store that sends them out every year) and it ends on December 31, 2008, in light of such overwhelming evidence as a calendar that ends on a particular day, I suggest you play hard, you only have 6 months and about a week before the end of time, after all that is when the great drugstore calendar ends.
 

Gahars

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If you listened to all of the lunatics raving in the streets, you'd see that the world was supposed to end about a hundred times by now.

It's not going to happen.
 

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Anomynous 167 said:
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Well the Aztecs did predict the year there civilization get's demolished
"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."


Btw everyone this is the Maya calender we're talking about.
 

Cousin_IT

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urgh, what is it about some people that makes them leap at the chance to become smug preachy millinarians at the first oppertunity?
 

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I don't see this happenning, a world doens't end like that! If the mayans saw this coming, why can't we? Maybe it was just there predictions, but precdictions can be wrong. 21st dec 2012 will just be another day with kids waiting for Santa. This kind of stuff does put a weight on the mind though.. But in the end (no pun intended) that is just their prediction.
 

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ok the whole thing is it's not the end of the world, it's their calendar ends on that day. i forget which one of their calendars ends because they used a couple, funnily enough more accurate than ours were, we've only just caught up to them.

it's a great tool that ppl use to claim doomsday but the fact is they didn't make a new calendar because their civilization collapsed and was forced to become christian, well the ones that weren't killed by disease or our right slaughtered.

so no the world won't end on that day, maybe some odd and cool celestial event but not the end of the world.

on a funny side note, if you play with the dates a bit, the final battle of the macross (robotech) series is on dec 21 2012
 

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I don't think that the Mayans predicted that this year was the end of the world. i just think that they predicted that there culture would die out by then. i mean if i was making a calendar then ended eventually i would make sure it ended way past when i was gone.
 

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To all those who believe the world will end, i can see 2 problems:
A) How did the Mayan's/Aztec's figure that 2012 will be our doom
B) They based their idea on the fact that this happens every 5000 years, the turnover of the callender and the new begining... they were around over 5000 years ago... i still see a problem
 

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It wasn't the end of their calendar; Dec 21, 2012 is just when the Mayan calendar changes epochs. It's like all those god-botherers who got all fussed over 1999-2000, or 999-1000 looking back in historical records.

However, I'm seriously tempted to start selling end-of-the-world kits to the gullible and pounding the drums over every possible doomday looming. Anybody know when the Chinese calendar gets all inauspicious-like?

-- Steve
 

AlphaWolf13

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Anomynous 167 said:
TheNecroswanson said:
2012? That prediction by Aztecs, which is beleived by Christians, and was first brought up in what, America?
There's everything wrong when it comes to that so called "prediction". Why would Christians beleive what Aztecs predicted? And how would they get the year 2012? Anyone remember Y2K? Wasn't that also only beleived by America? (No? yes?)
Point is, America loves negativity and the idea of the apocolypse, it's tools for making people convert to Christianity.


Edit: Copter, I loves your new avatar. Makes me happy inside.
Well the Aztecs did predict the year there civilization get's demolished

Unfortunately there is more then just one prediction of the worlds end on 2012...
There were several civilizations that couldn't "predict" past this date. There were seers in Rome, the Aztecs, uhhh (this one is wierd) Merlin himself? (don't ask lol), and some other cultures. Most who had no such contact with the other, yet came up with the same exact date.
I don't believe any of them predicted any sort of "The world ends", more or less that a change would come that they could not predict/see past. Oh, and the Mayan calendar is noted for how completely accurate it is, some would say more accurate than our own calendars. Which is why when their calendar mysteriously "ends" on 12/21/12 and they couldn't see past that date, people get worried.

As for the Christians, they just believe some 666 will rise (which several of people named "666" have, and nothing has come) and the world will end. They don't have a "certain date", as far as I remember.


Ughh, that was a bit of a long post. Correct me if I'm wrong about any of that, most of it is coming straight from memory.


Anton P. Nym said:
It wasn't the end of their calendar; Dec 21, 2012 is just when the Mayan calendar changes epochs. It's like all those god-botherers who got all fussed over 1999-2000, or 999-1000 looking back in historical records.

However, I'm seriously tempted to start selling end-of-the-world kits to the gullible and pounding the drums over every possible doomday looming. Anybody know when the Chinese calendar gets all inauspicious-like?

-- Steve
Hmmm, that's actual quite interesting. Know of any web-sites? I'm very very interested in this sort of history.
 

zari

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2012 eh. That sucks, my first long service leave doesn't roll around until 2015.
 

Shintenma

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Y2K was a computer issue. Old computers had only 2 digits hard coded in their memory for the year and when the year rolled over to '00 no one was able to predict how the computers would handle it.

As I understand it, the Mayans not being able to predict past December 12, 2012 had more to do with the limits of their numbering system more than their belief that the end of the world or more expressly, the end of the current age(time). It's more likely that they just started counting again at zero because they couldn't figure out how to count past a certain value in their numbering system.

So rest assured, You're gonna wake up on December 22, 2012 finding yourself looking forward to the holidays and if you don't it'll be too late worry. :)
 

AlphaWolf13

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Shintenma said:
Y2K was a computer issue. Old computers had only 2 digits hard coded in their memory for the year and when the year rolled over to '00 no one was able to predict how the computers would handle it.

As I understand it, the Mayans not being able to predict past December 12, 2012 had more to do with the limits of their numbering system more than their belief that the end of the world or more expressly, the end of the current age(time). It's more likely that they just started counting again at zero because they couldn't figure out how to count past a certain value in their numbering system.

So rest assured, You're gonna wake up on December 22, 2012 finding yourself looking forward to the holidays and if you don't it'll be too late worry. :)
That seems to be more of a possibility then most. Though what about the fact that several different cultures have viewed this date as some sort of "change" more or less? Most, from what I've heard, having little to no connection with the others.
 

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I think "living life to the fullest" becomes somewhat impossible for the working man doing the 9-5 for 5 days of the week. And I have never, ever ever ever... directly or in-directly met anyone who does live life to the 'fullest'. We can hardly be expected to cram as much into our days as possible every single day. We'd simply tire out and end up sleeping it off for a good 14+ hours... and then Uh Oh! You're not living life to the fullest you lazy slob! Wake up and go running, then climb a mountain, then snowboard down it, then eat lunch at a fancy pavement café, then go home to work on a personal project, then go on a date at a fancy joint and end the night with rampant sex.

Sure, there are days like this... but everyday? Fuck off! :p