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So Republicans are now the ones fighting for a functional government that runs smoothly and without corruption....

Pretty sure there's a nice bridge in Alaska for sale currently. You can even see it from Sarah Palin's house! You should look into it.
Always was.
 

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Always was.
So why did Republican voters elect Donald Trump, a businessman widely known for his corrupt dealings and incompetency, to lead the Republican party and be President of the United States? How does electing a corrupt and incompetent leader make an organization run smoothly and be free of corruption? Why do 80+% of Republicans still support Donald Trump after he presided over 4 years of one of the most corrupt and incompetent administrations in the history of the country?
 

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You think Trump fought against corruption? Thought he was a typical democrat. Why did Republicans vote for him then? Is it that you spout nothing but shit all of the time?
Well, I think the basic idea is that Trump did none of that corruption he was accused of, except that because he was a typical Democrat president, he was totally corrupt.
 

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You think Trump fought against corruption? Thought he was a typical democrat. Why did Republicans vote for him then? Is it that you spout nothing but shit all of the time?
No, I dont. But I think the people who supported him wanted to drain the swamp and stop the steal, both of which carry an implication that the system need be saved, not destroyed.
 

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No, I dont. But I think the people who supported him wanted to drain the swamp and stop the steal, both of which carry an implication that the system need be saved, not destroyed.
You know, it’s funny. Democrat supporters say similar things. Stop the Steal is very similar to gerrymandering and electoral collage complaints. Draw the Swamp is very similar to anti-PAC policies of progressives like AOC.

But then, the Tea Party and Occupy Wallstreet were very similar in its criticisms of the system. The difference was the solution. And Koch brother backing
 

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Drain the Swamp is very similar to anti-PAC policies of progressives like AOC.
Except that the guy who wanted to "drain the swamp" held the presidency for four years and did precisely nothing to drain the swamp, which should give everyone an indication of how serious he was about it.

The reality is that most of them couldn't give a shit. It's just a tribal loyalty thing where they'll buy whatever shit the guy their party selects for president tells them.
 

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Except that the guy who wanted to "drain the swamp" held the presidency for four years and did precisely nothing to drain the swamp, which should give everyone an indication of how serious he was about it.

The reality is that most of them couldn't give a shit. It's just a tribal loyalty thing where they'll buy whatever shit the guy their party selects for president tells them.
I thought he "drained" the swamp around Washington to bring it straight into the white house. Wasn't that the tactic?
 
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You know, it’s funny. Democrat supporters say similar things. Stop the Steal is very similar to gerrymandering and electoral collage complaints. Draw the Swamp is very similar to anti-PAC policies of progressives like AOC.

But then, the Tea Party and Occupy Wallstreet were very similar in its criticisms of the system. The difference was the solution. And Koch brother backing
There's not a huge amount of difference between the parties, similarly there's not actually an insurmountable gap between their supporters. The biggest difference is the lies they tell about each other.
 

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There's not a huge amount of difference between the parties, similarly there's not actually an insurmountable gap between their supporters. The biggest difference is the lies they tell about each other.
Seems to me there's quite a significant difference between having private prisons and not having them. Or between arming Saudi Arabia and not arming Saudi Arabia. They'd almost seem to be opposite positions.
 

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Seems to me there's quite a significant difference between having private prisons and not having them. Or between arming Saudi Arabia and not arming Saudi Arabia. They'd almost seem to be opposite positions.
See also mandating family separation for refugees as policy explicitly as a deterrent to immigration. Oh and then "oops" losing hundreds of those children...

 

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Or letting the planet enter a phase of runaway heating while denying it's happening or is even a problem.
 

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I thought he "drained" the swamp around Washington to bring it straight into the white house. Wasn't that the tactic?
My line was gonig to be that the only swamps he would have drained were wetlands that he wanted to build his border wall over.
 

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There was a line in an article in my newsfeed, that by the end of his term with all the appointments given to industry lobbyists, he was practically a wetland conservationist.
(not to be confused with his actual conservation policies which are bad for actual swamps.)