239: For the Horde!

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Zydrate

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Nice to see my home realm of "Moon Guard" getting some love.

Sachita, Horde Troll
Jeniv, Alliance human

See you all there. Rar.
 

WNxSajuukCor

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I joined Horde back during launch because of the lore perspective of the Undead and all the other races in general.

Plus anyone who chose Alliance for PvP back in the day just needs to mention the Alterac Valley battleground. That damn bridge as Horde was rough to get across, while the Alliance just ran through our base to the aid station and general XD
 

Mikri Shogun

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Very nice article! I play Horde and I'll always do.I was fascinated by the Orcs from the WoW st games and their story from WoW mythology.Generally, Horde is a more warrior-like faction with great epic story , from each clan and that suits me most.Also I agree completely with Flaareon's statement about Orc racials,the best for PvP in all game.
For The Hord!!! \m/
 
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I actually stayed away from playing WoW because I wanted to play the Alliance.. and all my friends told me not to. I asked why, so they brought up their Alliance and Horde characters.

Either they rolled their alliance horribly, or they just picked the right stats for the Horde... But MAN, were the Horde horribly overpowered compared to the Alliance characters. I've been told time and time again that the Horde does seem to have more powerful abilities than the Alliance. I played as both their Alliance and Horde, and I felt like a wuss with Alliance and like the game had no challenge with Horde.

So if that's true, why isn't that taken in account with the stat that was quoted (75% of the rank of top PvP players were Horde) instead of just "Alliance doesn't know how to play"?

In Fighting Game terms, You have to be an amazing player to take a Joke Tier and beat a Top Tier consistently. Not everyone is going to be an amazing player. That's why you have balance.
 

Dexiro

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If you wanted a balanced view it'd be much better to ask average horde players and not high-end raiders - i tend to imagine them as antisocial competitive types.

Personally joined horde because i was looking for something a bit different.
My first choice was alliance but i switched to try out the blood elf when they were brand new.
I stuck with that character though and realized that the horde weren't the angry violent types I'd imagined, if anything they seemed like the underdogs and suddenly alliances flaws started showing.

Give em a try anyway if you haven't already, alliance isn't that bad but i had a lot better memories from horde :p
 

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I've been playing since 2005, and I originally chose horde because a friend was playing horde. Every once and a while I'll try to play an alliance character, but most of their quests are just not as fun to level. I also enjoy the lore of the horde more.

Taurens are a peaceful race that loves nature and the land. Before they joined the horde they were constantly being plagued by the kolkar. Tauren quests are generally about bringing balance to the land, even if you need to kill some critters because they have become too aggresive to the rest. They are also the only horde race that can choose druid, which is pretty cool, but you get tired of cow druids after a while. Cairne Bloodhoof has been the mature leader of these gentle giants and a constant voice of reason in the horde. You generally don't see alot of hostile tauren. There are a few in Stonetalon mountains and in Thousand Needles, as well as a rogue tribe in the marsh to the north. The Taunka of Northrend are a simular race that recently joined the horde, but they remain non player characters.

Trolls are an odd bunch. If you were to ask me what their best class would be from the lore of playing trolls, I would tell you shaman. From their racials alone, it becomes apparent that they were designed to be warriors and hunters. Only one tribe of trolls joined the horde. No matter who you play, you are gonna be killing trolls a whole lot during the game. Hostile trolls are everywhere. Trolls get compared to gnomes because they don't have a main city, they are just sharing orgrimmar. They also lack a real leader and many later quests involving them require you to trek back to the lvl 5 noob village for answers. Quests involving them are witchdoctor type voodoo stuff. Sometimes they touch on darker paths of hexes and stuff like that (seriously, I collected all those animal parts so you could cast a hex that killed your prisoners? Use a knife you lazy bum!).

Blood elves are the 'pretty' race of the horde. If anyone has a right to hate the alliance, it's these guys. The alliance used them, then imprisoned them and tried to kill them. And WHY? Because they lost their homeland. Arthas defiled their homeland, and the survivors don't get aid from their allies, they get imprisoned. Talk about betrayals. Most of their stuff is about dealing with their addiction to magic. There is some lore about being twisted into monsters by the magic too. A good chunk of Burning Crusade outlands quests deal with killing blood elves. They have a great starting area that gives you some awesome caster gear by the time you complete the ghostlands. Only horde race that can be paladin, and also one of the best caster races out there.

I've never really gotten into orcs much. They have some decent abilities and their mounts are pretty cool, but in many ways are the least interesting of the horde races. Hostile orcs are pretty much isolated to the eastern kingdoms, with the exceptions of certain cult members, but those are generally a mix of all races. There are also the fel orcs of the outlands that you get to kill. Thrall has done a pretty good job making sure that things don't get out of control on kalimdor. There is great story in the Maghar outland quest line involving him.

The forsaken are, for pretty much all intensive purposes, the 'evil' race of the horde. If you wanna play a bad guy, it's either these guys or a human. Dealing with constant discrimination with the scarlet crusade coming in and trying to re-kill them and their own deaths has made them rather bitter. Sylvanas is a pretty cool leader. Free willed forsaken are never really hostile, but the scourge are, so there are plenty of undead you get to kill in various areas of the game. Wrath of the Lich King brought us an awesome developement when we got the phased area 'Siege of the Undercity' where we finally get to purge the undercity of all the truely wicked forsaken and demons. Many quests for forsaken involve gathering materials for poison and/or distributing poison (often to prisoners).

The fiction that you are playing the 'bad guys' when you choose the horde is exactly that, fiction. I generally find that there are alot more mature players on the horde side, but that might be because who I surround myself personally with while I play. My guild has a few kids in it, but most of us are in the thirties, some in the fourties. I would say that the average age of our guild of 200 is somewhere around 29 (counting all the death knights). I am on a PvE server, which may have something to do with the maturity of players. In the end, it's all about finding people who have fun playing with.
 

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For anyone who played Warcraft 3, the Alliance are not good. It was the humans who messed everything up, becoming corrupted and evil through Arthas. Meanwhile, the Horde embodies the always-appealing conception of the "Noble Savage" in their Tauren, Orcs, and Trolls, while the Forsaken embody the idea of redemption. Thrall and Sylvanas were good, compelling characters that were generally lacking in the Alliance campaigns.

Also, the Horde female models have hips. Strangely, Alliance do not.
 

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PVP numbers are skewed because the undead racials used to be very overpowered in arena, and once they allowed race/faction changes, a lot of hardcore pvpers, which are the ones at the top of the charts, changed specifically for that.
 

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When I started playing World of Warcraft, I picked Night Elves for purely cosmetic reasons. I played up to level 55, and the only thing that I seriously disliked about WoW was the community. People were immature and stupid, calling everyone else in the game "fags" and "retards," and nobody ever knew how to work in a group. I don't just mean PvP; they couldn't even keep a damn dungeon group organized.

At around level 55, I decided to try out a new class, and so decided to pick my second favorite race, Tauren. Trying to troll Durotar's general channel, I made an tame joke in our discussion about the fact that I'm gay. Nobody had any negative response. They pretty much all typed "lol," and went on with the humorous discussion we were already having. I was astounded.

I played that Tauren to level 20, and discovered that this general sense of acceptance and maturity was pretty much a constant. People on Horde were people that I could actually communicate with. I left for a year to get the shit in my life straight, and when I came back, I started a Tauren Druid. It's been about a month since I started again, and I've never loved the Horde more. I even bought a damn t-shirt.

For the Horde!
 

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Why do I play Horde?

In my experience (those are key words there) during my time playing WoW since 2005, every Alliance player I've dealt with has been an absolute prick. Even during my time as an Alliance player myself, I hated it. So I switched to Horde and never looked back.

On the occasions that I take another look at the Alliance, I always end up disappointed in the players.

Lore-wise, King Varian Wrynn is a close-minded prick, compared to Thrall who's the living definition of all-round good guy despite being the leader of the Orcs. Wrynn, on the other hand, is a xenophobic bastard with an unforgiving and unforgivable attitude toward the Horde races even though it's been proven that the Horde is not a threat. One example is during the Battle for the Undercity, in which he and several of his Knights attempted to kill Thrall after the bad guys were killed, his reason for this being that he wanted to end the Horde threat now and forever by cutting the beast off at the head, so to speak. He utterly refuses to understand that the Horde wasn't responsible for the atrocities committed by the rebel Forsaken who had allied with Varimathras. He can't seem to tell the difference between Horde, Scourge and Burning Legion. He is not an effective leader. The Horde equivalent of him is Garrosh Hellscream, the only Horde character I'm not too happy with.

Also, throughout Warcraft history it has been shown that the Alliance is no longer as noble or heroic as it once was. The Humans seem to have ironically taken on the xenophobic tendencies of their progenitors, the Vrykul.

Overall, I prefer the Horde due to (again, in my experience) more maturity and more interesting lore. Yeah, you get some idiots on the Horde side but overall there just hasn't been that many I've had to deal with, compared to the sheer number of Alliance idiots I've put up with during my time as both an Alliance and a Horde player.
 

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I can explain the PvP thing. There's probably quite a few PvP players from back in the early days of WoW, long before there were Battlegrounds or Arenas, where the primary scenes of world PvP action were either captial cities or the makeshift "arena" of Tarren Mill and Southshore. And since on almost every World of Warcraft server, the Alliance outnumbers the Horde from 3-1 to an astounding 7-1 ratio (at least in regards to total character numbers; I don't know about player numbers), the Alliance could simply "zerg rush" their way to victory, relying on overwhelming numbers rather than tactics and strategy.

To counter this, the Horde adapted. Communication, strategizing, the maturity needed to take orders as well as give them- they sprung up out of necessity. Eventually, the Horde began beating back the "lol, lets just rush em" players of the Alliance, giving equal battle with inferior numbers. When Battlegrounds, Arenas and places like Wintergrasp came to be, where either numbers were equalized or any imbalances were addressed elsewise, the Horde's tendency to fight as an outnumbered foe led to higher victories. While there are plenty of Alliance players who now use the same stratagems, the higher population simply means they get more of the "screw you guys, I want my honor kills" types who won't go along with the plan and therefore make it fall apart.

Now, as someone with two 80 Horde characters and no one Alliance side over 61 (and that one's a Death Knight), why did I choose the Horde? Because the Alliance is flat-out BORING. They're all buddy-buddy, with no real internal strife or issues to speak of. The Horde is a melting pot of wildly different people who may have no more than the goal of survival in common- and there's conflict a-plenty, with a demon-worshipping cult literally under Thrall's feet, a city full of dead people who either fear or hate the living, and a how-the-mighty-have-fallen race who hide their addiction to dangerous magic while still raising their noses at the "barbaric savages" they've allied with.

I hope for the sake of the Alliance that Cataclysm introduces some honest-to-the-Earth-Mother internal strife. Maybe Varian Wrynn will finally go completely off the deep end and cause a schism in the Alliance leadership, forcing people to take real sides and deal with their choices. Because really, I don't know how they can tolerate the whole "let's all hold hands and frolic in the park, la la la" mentality.
 

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I have been playing Warcraft games since I was little.
Always played the Horde side. The Noble, Shamanistic, and Warlike Orcs and trolls were always more interesting than the humans in Warcrat games.

Really, the only 'alliance' race I like, are the dwaves, Warcraft Dwarves are awesome.
Tanks and guns. Mmmm.
 

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John Funk said:
I firmly believe that there is no essential difference between those who play Alliance and those who play Horde. We all THINK that "Oh, X tends to be Y while A tends to be B, and Alliance players are whiny kids while Horde are all mature brothers in arms," but really, it's bullshit.

The only real standout is the PvP thing, and that's because A.) Horde racials are better for this sort of thing, and B.) it's kind of self-fulfilling. Serious PvPers roll Horde because DUH, everyone knows that Horde is for PvP.
I'm not sure. Alliance have usually been the ones taking land and such.

I rolled horde because I loved Orcs in Warcraft 3 and that I wanted to be the good guys.
 

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First I rolled Alliance. Horde toons were always ganking me, and Alliance toons were always picking on me about my crappy armor. Trade chat was full of idiots.

Then I rolled Horde. Alliance toons were always ganking me, and Horde toons were always picking on me about my crappy armor. Trade chat was full of idiots. Barrens chat was full of Chuck Norris.

I didn't see a difference in the quality of player on either side.

Either way, I didn't feel like I was role playing at all. So I rolled nothing and have been happy ever since. Maybe I should try this Moon Guard realm. But do I really want to spend the rest of the night watching the game update?
 

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I rolled Alliance at first because A, I wanted to play my customary Paladin and I didn't get BC right from the get go and B, I like the lore for the Alliance better. Not the Night Elves, but the Humans.

The Humans just saw the loss of one of their major kingdoms to the Scourge. The sole Human homeland in the Alliance is in tatters, with ineffective politicians taking the place of the Child king, while his father is left for dead. There is rampant xenophobia against their old allies, the elves, who have turned to demonic powers after their homeland was eradicated. Their race is on the downfall, while their old enemies, the Orcs and Trolls of the Horde, are steadily on the rise.There are no heroes left of the likes of Lother, Uther, and Khadgar. The Silver Hand is no more. The Kirin Tor are little more than glorified scholars. Their kingdoms are isolationist and full of rot. The de facto ruler of Stormwind turns out to be a Black Dragon. But, out of nowhere, the King returns to replace humanitys' lost glories, to turn back the Horde. His hate for them has been forged through slavery and bloodshed. My Paladin was disillusioned rather quickly at the state of the world, and the feebleness of the Order of the Silver Hand to stop it. He threw all he had left into the Light to save humanity, and it was with that grim faith he set out into the world to purge its evils with his holy wrath.

I think that the Horde gets a lot more attention than the Alliance *cough*favouritism*cough* but hey, it's just how you take it. The guild I was with had nary a griefer, with the sad few that appeared on our doorstep quickly thrown our. Trade was full of idiots, sure, but it's the internet. I made a Belf pally when I finally got BC, but I found it just too much of a change from the Blood Elves of WC3 for me to keep going.

Alliance for me.
 

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My brother and I shared an account. He went unsuprisingly for a human Paladin.

I looked at the Alliance and found it boring to tears. I called it "variation on the theme of humans"- since basically you had the choice between: humans, small bearded humans, even smaller funky-colored bearded humans, and tall, funky-colored pointy-eared humans.
(there was no BE or Dranei at the time)

*yawwnn*

But the Horde! Past the underdog and cool backstory everyone already spoke about... What interesting character concepts! And the Tauren, Trolls and Forsaken- and even Orcs- are not found in your average fantasy MMO with their usual humans and elves and dwarves...
And, the Tauren.

Holy mother of jesus on rocket-propelled rollerskates, guys!

You can play an 8 feet tall armored battle cow! That eats meat! And that manages to look all soft and cuddly and deadly at the same time?
How is that NOT awesome?!?!?

And actually, I found the Horde races to also have an interesting characterization of the female gender toons.
Screw those stupid night elves in undies that will "dance 4 gold": what best for a player like me that happens to be of the female sex and likes the depiction of the latter in videogames to be as badass as the males and not overly sexualized?
F-ing Tauren that is.
I'm actually taller than any of the guy sprites 'cept male Taurens (and the occasional Troll doing their idle animation and strech to his full height), I look like a big, tall, horned ball of armor doom and my shield is so big an entire family of gnomes could use it as a raft.

Female Orcs are also very neat, badass, and they do look like actual orcs. I'm less keen on the she-Trolls that look a bit too much like a recolor of an human supermodel body shape with funky hair and feet, but at least they change from humans and elves chicks.

Now there are the BE, but at least the BE males are also very... so it's like a fanservicey race in all.
Draenei are finally really cool addition to the boring Alliance but the sexual dismorphism between the males and females keeps frightening me...
(how. can. they. mate. without. snapping the girl. in two? *shudders*)

On the alliance side, I did roll a she-dwarf and a she-gnome (A pink-haired ponytailed lil' thing I named Bubblegummie (Destroyer of Worlds). Cue in two swords three times her height :) Liked her a lot, actually.)
But despite having all the good scenery (since Horde lands now are "Variation on the theme of "wasteland"), I found it a bit more boring, and maybe I just had some bad luck but people on the alliance side were less friendly and they didn't do battlegrounds at all (and that's what I like the more!)

So... for the Horde! And /moo !