Meh it's not going to be as good as the original, I don't see this coming up with any good lines either. 300 at least had some memorable lines.
I'm aware of that, that's what I meant with ironically though looking back that probably wasn't the best word to use. The Spartan telling it from his viewpoint and thus being an unreliable narrator is interesting but the conquering Persians being depicted as the better folk would be interesting to see as well, more interesting in my opinion.Beliyal said:A lot of people seem to forget that the story from the movie 300 is not an objective story. We hear it as it is told by one of the Spartans who survived the battle. He is a very subjective narrator who, as added weight, tells the story to his comrades before the next battle in the war. He is basically exaggerating a campfire tale to epic proportions about how Greeks are the heroes and the Persians are evil monsters in order to give his combatants reasons to be fierce, unrelenting and brutal in the battle. Of course Persians aren't evil. And of course they are not monsters. But a Spartan who fought them would describe them exactly like that for the purpose of pumping the adrenaline of warriors before the battle. If any of us was there in 5th century BC, listening to a Spartan warrior re-telling that story, we would've heard it exactly like that. Also, I didn't mention that regardless of how much we know about the Persians and their really awesome civilization, the Greeks in 5th century hated them. The Greeks hated pretty much everyone, they were incredibly xenophobic and everyone who wasn't a Greek was a barbarian and they would either tolerate them for trade or outright fight them. That's why I love the movie 300. It tells us a story from a viewpoint of an actual 5th century Spartan warrior, not a viewpoint of some quasi-historical lesson. And I say that as an archaeologist. 300 for me is the best historical movie because it gives us a glimpse of history as it was back then for certain, and not a textbook reading. Sure, the Persians were very advanced and enlightened, but the Greeks never perceived them as such. Why should a Spartan tell us about it? To him, Persians are monsters and he is there to kill them all. Unfortunately, people in the past were sometimes like that. I got more accurate vibes from 300 than from a lot of other historical movies which are pretty much always influenced by modern way of thinking and have the characters talk and think like... well, us, the 21st century modern viewers.Hades said:Wait was that queen Cercei?
I'm not that big on the whole Spartan-freedom and Persian=demonic tyrants, even if its meant ironically. In fact the Persians where by all accounts much more enlightened then the brutal, slaveholding Spartans. I'm fine with ditching historical accuracy if it adds something more interesting then the actual history but I don't find this the case with 300 or its incoming sequel.
I suppose I will go check it out though. I don't expect I will love this film but it should be a decent way to fill an evening.
Needless to say, can't wait for the sequel. I hope the overall feel will remain the same. It certainly looks gorgeous, if nothing else. Also, if anything really bothers me about historical accuracy, it's the way they do the environments. They always look like modern art. Sure, it's pleasing to look at, but that pulls me out of immersion much more easily than the demon Persians.
Historically there was a lot that happened before, during, and after the battle of Thermopylae which you could make a movie out of. Remember how 300 ended? Still, there's a reason they chose to make the original movie about the battle of Thermopylae and not all the stuff that happened before, during, and after it.Tom_green_day said:Yeah, but that new army seemed to be a tad over the 300 mark, more like the 300 thousand mark.Johnny Novgorod said:Well there was that ONE dude played by Faramir that is shown leading a new army in the end.Tom_green_day said:How the hell can they make a sequel? The original 300 was the story of 300 men whoDIED.
But is it stupidly pretty?BeeGeenie said:It's Pretty! It's Stupid! It's... Pretty Stupid!