360 Gamers: Why have you stopped playing Halo?

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Arnoxthe1

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This is something that's been nagging at me for a while. The player counts for all 3 Halo's that are currently playable online are pretty low. Halo 3, Halo Reach, and Halo 4 are all pretty much at the same player counts.

Halo 3 and Reach I can probably see but considering how recent Halo 4 is, the player counts are pretty darn low for its age.

So what's your reason, 360 gamers? My curiosity is piqued now.

EDIT: Poll didn't go through for some reason. Here's the choices.

I just got tired of Halo.
I'm just taking a break from it.
I think Call of Duty is better now.
The new game(s) I bought stole my attention!
I do still play it. Just offline.
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I stopped playing Halo because I'm out of college now and don't have as many people over at my place, so I play a lot more single player games. Halo was my go to for a long time since you could do 4 player online splitscreen multiplayer, and I still enjoy it every now and then, and it's still fun, but that's my reason for not playing it much anymore, because I just don't have as many people to play splitscreen with all the time.

Also, Halo 4's maps were pretty much terrible. There were like 3 good maps at launch, and I'm not buying DLC from 343 if they couldn't even provide some decent maps at launch.
 

Arnoxthe1

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xshadowscreamx said:
The community levels are hardly worth considering the effort to jump back online,
Wait, are you saying that you stopped playing Halo because there were too few players online? Don't you think that's sort of a self-fulfilling cycle? 'If people don't play this game then I won't either', thus making the player counts even lower which cause even more players to drop the game.
 

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I still enjoy playing the online multiplayer if I don't have much time to play games and I don't want to dive into the campaign of another game or I want to play with friends.

That said, am I fuck buying DLC to play regular Slayer.
Basically everything on it requires DLC now, except for Big Team and a few others and I don't enjoy it enough anymore to pay for that.
I actually played a bit of the Reach multiplayer the other day just for some level of variety.
 

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My xbox is broken and past warrenty so i have to buy a new on, and considering i barely used that thing for the past 2 years i actually dont know if il replace it (probably will tbh, but not for a while)
 

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Well in the case of Halo 3 and Halo Reach it's just because I played them so much, and none of my friends play either of them anymore, so I don't either.

But Halo 4, I just don't like the game at all. It doesn't feel like Halo for me and I don't like most of the changes made in the game. Permanent sprint, getting knocked out of your zoom, no x's on the dead bodies of your team, killstreaks, loadouts, signs over spawned weapons etc. I haven't played the game since maybe January so I don't know if they've changed any of it, but it just wasn't the series I loved to play anymore I guess.
 

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Arnoxthe1 said:
xshadowscreamx said:
The community levels are hardly worth considering the effort to jump back online,
Wait, are you saying that you stopped playing Halo because there were too few players online? Don't you think that's sort of a self-fulfilling cycle? 'If people don't play this game then I won't either', thus making the player counts even lower which cause even more players to drop the game.
Yeah I see your point, but also I only Like to play with friends and that is a rare occasion..... Also the maps are not as good as previous halo's ....
 

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I stopped playing because I left college

I had no one to play with and that was pretty much the only reason I ever played Halo. I don't like arcadey shooters like that (where I can get the drop on someone but because I have the starting weapons, it takes me half a clip to kill them and they take me out because they turned around with the "FUCK YOU" power weapon). I had continued buying Halo because of the campaign but Halo 4's campaign was quite terrible so it's likely that even that mode is now out the door and Halo is out completely for me.

So I took my talents to South Beach Call of Duty instead where I found Hardcore mode gave me the joy I was looking for. However, CoD is about to become the victim of next-gen as my buddies are upgrading and I find getting the Xbox One (or any launch system to be honest) at launch is the biggest waste of money ever. Losing the CoD friends means that CoD has 0 chance of being bought again...
 

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Several reasons. First off, I moved. So my internet is kinda shit right now. Decent enough to play mmos but not online shooters. And I have no one to play local games with. Secondly, I've been bored of the series since Reach. Which I did really enjoy. I bought 4, didn't like it at all.
 

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I stopped after Halo 2 because the assholes at Xbox-Live drove me away. I really didn't feel comfortable being called racist and homophobic slurs by kids and collage-douchebags nonstop, so I gave it up. That is the sole reason. Otherwise I really enjoyed the Halo experience, far more than any Modern Shooter or similar game.
 

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Grew tired of it, only Halo I still occasionally play is 2. Only reason I haven't sold Reach is due to it being a collector's edition.

Sold the rest of the Halo games I had, it started when I bought Halo 4 instead of Dishonored honestly. I had fun with 4 but had the feeling it would've been better spend in Dishonored.
 

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I lost interest (not that I ever really played online anyway, the only time that happened was when I got 1 free month of Gold with Halo 3). I still play it split-screen every now and then with friends, but that's about it, and even that is slowing down. Didn't even finish the campaign for Halo 4, and I probably won't.
 

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1. When Halo 4 launched, the file share and file browsing simply did not work and it took them some months to fix it
2. There were no good Forge maps
3. The multiplayer feels like Call of Duty
4. All the progression with the Elites was wiped, now you're just a super soldier fighting anything that doesn't look like you (whoop-dee-fucking-doo)
5. Custom game settings sucked ass
6. Previous installment had MORE stuff. Just more stuff in general. 343 took that out for no apparent reason.
7. The coop side-story mode just retraces the same maps OOOOOOVER AND OOOOOOOOOVER and isn't worth a shit.

And my biggest one:
It's almost impossible to lose coop. In previous games, your team mate had to either end or escape combat for you to respawn, and if you both died then it was back to the last checkpoint.
Now if you die, you just respawn endlessly.


They've just completely dumbed down such a great game and the only reason I could fathom is for it to "reach a wider audience". News Flash, making a game shit is not going to make more people want to buy it and it's only going to make a majority of the old fans hate you and it.


*wipes foam away from mouth* Well at least it doesn't make me want the Xbone
 

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Because I didn't like the multiplayer in Halo 4 but everyone else left Reach for it. It looked like Halo and played like Halo but it didn't feel like Halo. It's hard to explain. It felt like someone did a study on the original games and then built something based on their results because that's essentially what happened. A lot of my friends didn't notice, but I've sunk over a month in game in Reach and over 3 months in 3 so I know what Halo feels like.

I love that kind of arcade game that doesn't take itself to seriously (I mean, there's a modifier that makes enemy's heads explode) so I just started playing Painkiller: Hell and Damnation, Killing Floor and TF2. Still love playing Reach split-screen through.
 

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I've only ever played Halo One on PC, TF2 seems like a much better game in total.
 

Vrex360

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Well first of all *sniff sniff* my Xbox got stolen early last year and with it all my data from Halo 3 and Halo reach. Then when I got my new Xbox I still haven't been able to get a Live connection back up and combined with the fact that I no longer live at home but on my college campus and study takes up too much time I rarely game anyway.

In addition, Halo 4 in my humble opinion doesn't seem all that good. I admit I haven't played much, only some campaign levels and I've watched gameplay footage and read reviews but really so much has changed and so little for the better. It really is trying to be call of duty with these load outs, ordinance drops replacing weapons on map, permenant sprint, fucking kill cams and so much else including a system that values individual progression based on kills over completing objectives as a team and frankly it TOOK away more of the stuff I liked in the process. No firefight, no 'classic' multiplayer instead only 'infinity', hell half the content REQUIRES an online connection (From what I hear Spartan Ops gameplay wise is incredibly lackluster too) and NO FUCKING ELITES. Seriously for NINE YEARS that was STAPLE and something that gave Halo some much needed VARIETY.
Hang on, I need time to grieve.




Yeah still haven't forgiven 343 for that MASSIVE MIDDLE FINGER they gave me and all others who think like me, still never going to.

And as for the campaign, well I've bitterly ranted about the fact that the Elites were made enemies again so many times I shouldn't need to repeat myself. Just search 'Vrex360 Halo 4 elites' and your set. Honestly I just never saw a point in continuing the story, I thought it concluded fine and a sequel could only diminish the impact of the original trilogy and I was right.
The Arbiter's character arc and the seeming journey of redemption the Sangheili race seemed to be moving towards? Nothing, they are all enemies now and from Halo Reach, Halo 4 Forward unto Dawn, the Glasslands Trilogy, Halo initiation, Halo 4, Spartan Ops, Spartan Assault all combined have done an incredible job of ruining that to the point where it feels like someone at 343 was looking at the ending of Halo 3 and shouted:
"SHIT the elites could be portrayed as sympathetic or humanized and even heroic, this could result in complex stories, new ideas and a creative angle to take our series. This is an actual creative spark.... STAMP IT OUT, STAMP IT RIGHT THE FUCK OUT. KILL IT! KILL IT! WE ONLY WANT BLAND MARKETABILITY GOD DAMN IT, GENERIC EVIL ALIENS TO BE KILLED IN THE THOUSANDS THAT'S IT!''

The impact of the Ark and the Halos? Diminished somewhat by this new Didact guy who played no part in the previous trilogy and his newfound seemingly limitless power just makes the huge epic battle of the ark feel rather small and anti-climactic. Plus the mystery of the forerunners is ruined when we reveal them to just be this omnipotent vampire god race who love to spew out long monologues and get killed by a quick time event.

Humanity just barely escaping extinction, apparently in just four years you can become a galaxy spanning empire in charge of the entire galaxy. Hell at least that means we don't need any themes of diplomacy with those stupid aliens right guys?

Point is I loved Halo for a very specific set of reasons, it had a funny and somewhat charming script with not particularly deep but likeable characters, a deep universe, fun shooty gameplay, nice colorful visuals, kickass music and actually challenged notions of the genre (read: All aliens NOT evil *gasp*) and since then Halo 4 feels like a determined attempt to destroy ALL of that. The mood is now grim and super serious, all the characters I like are either dead or have been pushed out of existence and the new ones are either too damn depressed or serious or fucking obnoxious (Jul Mdama being the only real exception), the music from what I've heard isn't as good and of course, the elites....

Thing is originally Halo was made by a talented team of men and women who above all else seemed like they had FUN. You see the vid-docs and the little jokes and easter eggs and how they engaged with their fanbase and you realize that while Bungie may have been under Microsoft's thumb the whole time they still had at least SOME say in their work. I still remember a quote one of them made about the Arbiter's involvement in Halo 2:
"I'd much rather experiment and do something surprising, and not have everybody appreciate it, than just turn the crank and do another alien war movie with a space marine,''

There WAS a genuine creative spark in this franchise once and it came from people wanting to try new things and above all makes fun games. 343 by contrast are a studio that SOLELY exist to create more Halo games for Microsoft. Like that is their SOLE purpose, to make Halo games as regularly as Call of Duty (there was an article about that once). Halo is now a cash cow for Microsoft more than it has ever been because that is literally all it is, the sole reason Halo as a franchise is getting a 'saga' now is because they want to pump the franchise dry and won't stop until there is absolutely no profit left to be made about it. It's trying to be call of duty, crysis and gears of war with its aesthetics because that's what's popular and it's become so commercialized with its ties to mountain dew and doritos it is actually sad.

I guess what I'm saying is Halo 4 to me looks like an early indication of what is about to become for this franchise, being the flagship for a console that originally tried to herald a new era of anti consumerist b.s and being mass produced with a new game every two years or so with spin offs on hand helds or worse. Constantly trying to change its style to emulate the other competitors and being even more shameless with its marketing campaigns and never trying anything nearly as risky or bold as the Arbiter ever again (case in point there's a new comic ostensibly ABOUT him coming out and he isn't even on the cover of it) because it's all about being marketable.
In essence I may watch this franchise deteroiate into committee approved mass produced marketable sludge way more than any of the other games could ever claim to be and the fact that this is the series I LOVED makes it hurt so much more.

Perhaps I'm jumping the gun here but with everything I've seen, I'm not convinced I'm being too pessimistic. In addition look up a recent 343 panel where they talk about the game's successes and failings and in addition to admitting they didn't do a good job explaining who the villain is they will go on to mention plans to 'appeal to a wider audience' (there's THAT damn catchphrase) and they do this by comparing an AK to a needler and pointing out that to many people the needler doesn't look like a weapon the way the AK is. The vibe I got from that panel really was 'WE WANT TO BE CALL OF DUTY'.
 

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Well, a few things, really. One, I have been very busy playing Diablo, Lego Lord of the Rings, Ascend: The Hand of Kul, trying to wrap up the spec ops on MW3, and a few other things, as well. Also, other than the latest DLC I am only missing a few achievements that require the Castle map pack, and until they put up a durn Castle playlist, it wont happen, because it never fails that someone in your playlist doesnt have the DLC. But I do plan to get back in there and at least get the rest of the achievements.