4.4 Billion Year Old Piece of Earth's Crust, Oldest Yet, Found

[Mossberg Shotty]

Except that noone was preaching about acceptance. unless you mean their other posts outside of this topic, which i cannot comment on.

Yea, outside this thread.

Yeah, i think your in the wrong thread, noone called them Jesus Freaks here.

I love the fact that Fox News is the source of this story. The absurdly obnoxious Jesus Freaks reporting that something is older than 6000 years.

Guess I need my eyes checked?

 

[elvor0]

The amount of arrogance in this thread is nauseating.

1. Fox News is a legitmate news source and they are generally pretty accurate with actual news. It's their commentators that everyone refers to with the "super right wing propaganda" thing and every news station has those. So stop with "I can't believe it's Fox News!" bullshit.

2. Most of you cannot even begin to describe the science behind dating of this type so stop acting like you're so much better than the "Young Earthers." Unless you can adequately explain the ACTUAL SCIENCE then you are no better than the "Young Earthers" and all you are doing is regurgitating information from vague sources because it fits your world view. There is indeed actual scientific evidence that goes into this subject, but unless you know what you're talking about, shut the fuck up.

1. When Fox News is constantly blaming me and my hobbies for mass murdering psycopaths, you're damn right I'll fire a shot at them when the opportunity arises.

2. No, I can't explain the science as well as the professionals, but that doesn't make my views on the same level as Young Earthers, who sit just above "Flat Earthers". Young Earthers ignore easily viewable evidance that the earth is older that 6000 years. We know this. I mean fuck me, modern Humans have been around longer than 6000 years, let alone the planet.

Fossils exist. Oil exists. We know for a fact that Evolution is a thing. We know evolution takes a very very very long time. Ergo, nothing the Young Earthers believe has any place in reality. It's not the same thing, they have nothing in terms of evidence aside from belief in some book that has most of it's ideas ripped off from the religions that came before it, in a time where we'd only recently stopped believing that a beetle pushed the sun across the sky in order to bring about day, which of course no one believes now. And even then there's absoloutely bugger all evidence for anything in that book.

Hell the ancient Egyptians were knocking about 3000 years ago, no one questions their existance and is integral to the Christian and Jewish faiths existing in the first place, that's 5000 years accounted for right off the bat, let alone the civilizations that came before them, which again no one questions. And no I don't just read something and take it as red, I do like to do my research, because I like learning about it, however science as an agenda of knowledge and discovery, Young Earthers are just insane, ingorant and subscribe to an antiquated notion, who handwave anything that disproves their beliefs with the idea that the magic man in the sky put them there to trick us.

 

[CriticalMiss]

Its fine to call people "Jesus freaks" for what they believe in, but if I tried to shoehorn the word 'freak' into any term that applies to you, I would be bludgeoned to death with political correctness Bible.

Except that if anyone called me a 'lesbian freak' I'd just laugh, not call for an inquisition.

 

[The Apple BOOM]

This whole thread is why I've been thinking about switching my main news source to Polygon. I feel like I can't be a Christian here without being jumped on. Sure none of those comments were directed at me, but how do you think a homosexual would feel if one of their favorite news sites was filled with comments about "The Gays".

First I wouldn't call this site a very good source for news other than gaming.

That is pretty lousy of us to make you feel that way, I think the only way you would get jumped on is if you were insisting the earth was only 6000 years old, science be damned. Too many people here are logical thinkers that just cant wrap their heads around that thought, myself included. As some say, you are entitled to your own opinion but that does not change the fact that it's wrong.

There are apparently quite a few LGBT people here so oil and water there for the most part. The only thing left of my faith in Christianity, (I went through confirmation) are Jesus's basic teachings which to me translate simply as
Be excellent to one another, (gross oversimplification) guess I should work on that some more.

I meant gaming news, but anyway. You're still missing the point. For one, even if I believed in that stuff, "I'm sorry you were offended, but I didn't do anything wrong" isn't an apology. Even then, you assert that all creationists are illogical. That was debunked almost immediately during the Ham/Nye debate with Ham pointing to examples of people working on spacecraft being creationists. Even the guy who made the MRI is. But at the end of the day, you're lumping together all Christians into the creationist camp. I feel like it's the equivalent, although at a much much less extreme level, of calling all Muslims terrorists or calling all gays incestuous.

 

[Two-A]

I love the fact that Fox News is the source of this story. The absurdly obnoxious Jesus Freaks reporting that something is older than 6000 years.

They say even a broken clock is right twice a day.

I imagine this was one of the interns that has not been indoctrinated yet.

 

[Mossberg Shotty]

Its fine to call people "Jesus freaks" for what they believe in, but if I tried to shoehorn the word 'freak' into any term that applies to you, I would be bludgeoned to death with political correctness Bible.

Except that if anyone called me a 'lesbian freak' I'd just laugh, not call for an inquisition.

You can't tell, but I am laughing. I almost can't stop laughing. I don't remember calling for an inquisition though, just pointing out a nice bit of hypocrisy.

 

[Strazdas]

This whole thread is why I've been thinking about switching my main news source to Polygon. I feel like I can't be a Christian here without being jumped on. Sure none of those comments were directed at me, but how do you think a homosexual would feel if one of their favorite news sites was filled with comments about "The Gays".

nothing to do with being a christian here but rather than watching Fox as legitimate soruce of news is like Reading Kotaku for its info about japanese games. Sure they will report facts, but they will always put their biased spin on it too.

Close, though both quotes are a bit off. Here's the original:

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon - it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory."

thank you. Today i learned the origins of that quote.

Yeah, i think your in the wrong thread, noone called them Jesus Freaks here.

I love the fact that Fox News is the source of this story. The absurdly obnoxious Jesus Freaks reporting that something is older than 6000 years.

Guess I need my eyes checked?

well i got to apologize here. i missed that one.

For one, even if I believed in that stuff, "I'm sorry you were offended, but I didn't do anything wrong" isn't an apology. Even then, you assert that all creationists are illogical. That was debunked almost immediately during the Ham/Nye debate with Ham pointing to examples of people working on spacecraft being creationists. Even the guy who made the MRI is. But at the end of the day, you're lumping together all Christians into the creationist camp. I feel like it's the equivalent, although at a much much less extreme level, of calling all Muslims terrorists or calling all gays incestuous.

its not meant to be. you being offended is not something anyone should apologize for. you being offended means aboslutely nothing. i can be offended that escapist forum uses grey-blue theme but that does not mean they should apologize. being offended is meaningless and should never be brought up in a rational discussion, let alone academic one. A person can be illogical in some aspects and logical in others. as you example points out - the persons belief regarding human history is illogical meanwhile his scientific knowledge is logical (well that or the spaceship will be bonkers).
Oh, and noone lumped christians in one group. in fact they specifically said "young earthers" and not "Christians". it is you who made that association and took it unpon yourself to set it right when there is nothing done to begin with.

 

[jklinders]

It's nice to have physical evidence that the Earth has been around that long but I have a nit to pick here.

Aside from debris from meteor strikes, the planet has been here that long. The majority of the matter on earth has been there over 4 billion years. It's just that this particular piece has remained unaltered in it's environment that long. I know the article is a bit of a fluff piece but some more insight into why rock is aged the way it is could do wonders to dispel the "mysteries" of how scientists comes to these conclusions in the first place.

As for the Captcha, seriously , fuck off Montana's

 

[Serinanth]

This whole thread is why I've been thinking about switching my main news source to Polygon. I feel like I can't be a Christian here without being jumped on. Sure none of those comments were directed at me, but how do you think a homosexual would feel if one of their favorite news sites was filled with comments about "The Gays".

First I wouldn't call this site a very good source for news other than gaming.

That is pretty lousy of us to make you feel that way, I think the only way you would get jumped on is if you were insisting the earth was only 6000 years old, science be damned. Too many people here are logical thinkers that just cant wrap their heads around that thought, myself included. As some say, you are entitled to your own opinion but that does not change the fact that it's wrong.

There are apparently quite a few LGBT people here so oil and water there for the most part. The only thing left of my faith in Christianity, (I went through confirmation) are Jesus's basic teachings which to me translate simply as
Be excellent to one another, (gross oversimplification) guess I should work on that some more.

I meant gaming news, but anyway. You're still missing the point. For one, even if I believed in that stuff, "I'm sorry you were offended, but I didn't do anything wrong" isn't an apology. Even then, you assert that all creationists are illogical. That was debunked almost immediately during the Ham/Nye debate with Ham pointing to examples of people working on spacecraft being creationists. Even the guy who made the MRI is. But at the end of the day, you're lumping together all Christians into the creationist camp. I feel like it's the equivalent, although at a much much less extreme level, of calling all Muslims terrorists or calling all gays incestuous.

Damn that's not what I was trying to convey, the exact opposite actually. I was thinking about just saying that there are Christians and then there are creationists but I must have seen a shiney. So those examples are of people who can apply science and logic to everyday situations, however it does not change the fact that creationism is Illogical.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

Awesome Now in order to truly celebrate this, I think we should place the crstal in a booby-trapped satellite and send it into outer space (along with a copy of the internet) or we could strap it on a rocket and launch it at the sun.

The entire internet? How much would that weigh?

 

[Evil Smurf]

What a time to be alive, we're sciencing so hard it's good.

I can't wait for the young Earth creationists try to explain this one away with their pseudo science.

They'll call the sensible people communists or something.

 

[Rag Doll]

I love the fact that Fox News is the source of this story. The absurdly obnoxious Jesus Freaks reporting that something is older than 6000 years.

Lovely, good to see the Escapist community hasn't stopped hating Christians since I've been away. Honestly, where do so many people get the idea that creationists don't believe in science?

And yet somehow I don't think any of their viewers will believe it. It's not in the bible after all!

Aww I was just about to post that! But totally, it's irony in a nutshell, ladies and gents! I'm unsurprised about the person leading the study being from UW Madison, however. That's where most of the smarter people in this fucking state wind up.

I've been here a long time, I understand the general attitude towards religious people, but this is getting ridiculous. Not every Christian (or even the majority) is some kind of living stereotype that disputes science at every opportunity. For two people who are constantly preaching about acceptance, you can be pretty fucking intolerant.

Its fine to call people "Jesus freaks" for what they believe in, but if I tried to shoehorn the word 'freak' into any term that applies to you, I would be bludgeoned to death with political correctness Bible.

Ok, we let's get our terminology straight here.

There are people from all around the world posting here on escapist, but I'm assuming most of us come from predominantly Christian countries. Because of the nature of discussions here, most of the people here may be pretty secular, but that's not why we make fun of creationists.

If you are a christian, that means you believe, or at least were brought up in a culture that believes in the teachings of Jesus, believes in God/ a god, knows their commandments, their golden rules etc. etc. People in general don't have a problem with Christianity.

"Jesus Freaks" on the otherhand, I would classify as people who put their religious beliefs ahead of their common sense, ignoring all information that contradicts their beliefs of how the world is and who often either blame others for persecuting them, or persecute against others with even greater fervor. Jesus Freaks have, for over a hundred years now, tirelessly stated that among other things, the Earth is over 6000 years old, despite the gigantic ammount of contradictory evidence. And because it has been proven that they are wrong, and they refuse to accept this, it makes them seem backwards, comedic and quite dumb.

Now, Jesus Freaks keep insisting they are christians, quite loudly I might add, but I think we can all agree that there are a lot more christians than Jesus Freaks.

 

[mrdude2010]

Actually, the original quote is the creationist one, an elitist linux/windows user adopted it for their agenda, not the other way around.

i can find no reference to arguing with creationists quote that is like this.

also, you are aware that you just praised the guy fotr adopting it to arguing against mac, right?

Eh, Mac isn't the worst thing in the world. The hardware is ridiculously overpriced, but the operating system itself is alright.

 

[Strazdas]

Actually, the original quote is the creationist one, an elitist linux/windows user adopted it for their agenda, not the other way around.

i can find no reference to arguing with creationists quote that is like this.

also, you are aware that you just praised the guy fotr adopting it to arguing against mac, right?

Eh, Mac isn't the worst thing in the world. The hardware is ridiculously overpriced, but the operating system itself is alright.

I agree with that, but that is unrelated to what your quoting.
Let me rephrase it to make it a bit more clear. You praised the person for changing the quote to fit MAC users instead of creationists. I was asking are you sure you want to praise him for that.

Oh, and you can run OsX on any hardware, you can build your own and make it run on your regualr desktop. yes there are some tinkering with finding drivers to run for some because Apples likes to put server hardware in theirs rather than user hardware so they usually make drivers for that only. I woudl disagree with it being a good OS but thats offtopic now.