5 Game Genres in Need of some CPR! STAT!
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Problem being that a)AAA developers aim for the mass consumption, which leads to writing/gameplay/etc being simple enough for 15-year-olds to understand and b) license to use the IP costs money, which can be major deterrent for D&D as an example, since it's one of the best-known as of now.
Project Eternity is closest thing, and possibly Numenera as MCA is writing for both.
As for more relevant topic, point-and-click seems to have nearly died as genre.
I recommend that you look into the Armored Core series.Ruhsey said:
There's some gundam games out there. Journey to Jaburo maybe.
My 5?
RPGs based off tabletop games. The closer to an authentic tabletop game, the better. World of Darkness (whatever version), Pre-4.0 D&D, pathfinder, and such. Heck, I bet there'd be some niche market for a virtual tabletop on Consoles. Sometimes people want to game, but can't find convenient people to play with. yeah, it lacks the personal closeness stuff, or heck it could be played off the couch with pals.
Neverwinter Nights, and baldur's gate were nice.
Dating/romance sim games. I'd dig seeing more Otome games.
Management games, maybe.
Games like Colony Wars.
Survival games like New Vegas's hardcore mode, and minecraft, I'd say.
I can; I was just thinking: what about the tactical FPS? I really miss Rainbow Six (old Rainbow Six that is), with the planning phase and weapon load-outs. I miss the delicacy of hostage crisis scenarios, and dividing my team up to attack the building from several different sides. I miss the careful precision, and feeling of success when you didn't lose a man. The new X-COM (as does Frozen Synapse) kind of fulfills this for me, but not in the same way. I think that should be my honorable mention. I can't think of any tactical FPS left... really... anyone... anyone... Ferris?Rebel_Raven said:
Good call, and I agree with you. There's not many FPSes that require tactics, and finesse, and maybe a slower, more deliberate pace.Ruhsey said:
Tactical shooters! Who wants Raimbow Six, who wants Mass Effect?
Stealth games! (ie, not Hitman, which needs CPR at the moment)
RPGs! (As in, not a crappy COD knock-off where you level up every few shots, even if the level does nothing ever than letting you put stickers on your gun.. actually, that's quite a good idea. But not that.)
Management games that aren't Dwarf Fortress, the Sims, or Bioware crap that isn't really management at all! (Only 10% of Dwarf Fortress players actually know what they're doing, what that thingy is, and why they're controlling circles with beards)
Romance games. I don't think a not-completely-weird-and-disgusting-and-stupid visual novel would miss the target. That is, it is wasn't cheasy, wasn't annoying, and didn't have a bajillion unintentionally awkward sex scenes on every route.
Stealth games! (ie, not Hitman, which needs CPR at the moment)
RPGs! (As in, not a crappy COD knock-off where you level up every few shots, even if the level does nothing ever than letting you put stickers on your gun.. actually, that's quite a good idea. But not that.)
Management games that aren't Dwarf Fortress, the Sims, or Bioware crap that isn't really management at all! (Only 10% of Dwarf Fortress players actually know what they're doing, what that thingy is, and why they're controlling circles with beards)
Romance games. I don't think a not-completely-weird-and-disgusting-and-stupid visual novel would miss the target. That is, it is wasn't cheasy, wasn't annoying, and didn't have a bajillion unintentionally awkward sex scenes on every route.
I was expecting to see "Collect-O-Thon. You know, like Banjo-Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, and Super Mario 64? And let's not forget Gex 64, Toy Story 2, and Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy. I guess Spyro the Dragon probably falls under that category, but I'm not entire familiar with the older games.
At least we're getting this indie game sometime next year, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DmBipY4CCo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqHkvDCQgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYLnPSw87sg
The future of FPS is looking bright, considering the likes of Shadow Warrior, Duke Nukem Forever, and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon. I want some more!
At least we're getting this indie game sometime next year, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DmBipY4CCo
Arena Shooters? I can think of two that came out recently. Serious Sam 3: BFE and Painkiller: Hell and Damnation. Granted, the latter is still a port, but the original game came out in 2005, so it's not that old.Ruhsey said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeqHkvDCQgg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYLnPSw87sg
The future of FPS is looking bright, considering the likes of Shadow Warrior, Duke Nukem Forever, and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon. I want some more!
Now I am not trying to be Mr. Negative, but I really feel folks are jumping the gun at calling it a success. Its a crowdfunding success but the actual game itself has yet to be revealed other than in screenshots. We've no way of knowing if the game itself will live up to the hype or expectations of the interest surrounding it. I'm hopeful for it's success but I'm not going to allow myself to think it will change the industry until it actually happens. Or doesn't.Pohaturon said:
Too many times we've been burned by "genre-changing" games, and while its a noble pursuit, Chris Roberts hasn't done much of note since the WC series, so we will see what happens.
Gods yes to RTS games.
I want to be able to build my own base, seek out and collect resources, and build an army to shake the very foundations of the earth as they march on and destroy all in their path.
While the RTS games with resource points aren't that bad, It's not particularly my style. I prefer having a structure and unit combination that, together, their sole purpose is to seek out resources and bring them back to base, as in the Command and Conquer games before 4. Red Alert 3 did simplify the economy a bit, with ore mines (That simply deposited the ore into your Ore Collector, which took a 2 second drive back to your Refinery) instead of ore fields (Which had ore scattered about on the ground, with a drill that would periodically cause more ore to surface, and your Ore Collector had to go pick it up until it was full, then drive back to your Refinery, wherever that was), but there was still a sense of urgency and accomplishment in securing additional ore mines.
And please, can we just get rid of unit caps altogether? They always frustrate me to no end, because most unit caps are kinda small and so to get a decent force that won't get shot down so easily, it ends up being too small a strike force and gets outnumbered, CnC4 was, in my opinion, one of the worst offenders of this. At the very least, make it a 1:1 ratio, like the Supreme Commander series did. 1 Unit, no matter which unit (Even Experimentals, which were massive, powerful, hulking monstrosities that could single-handedly take down an army of 100 units with little support), takes up 1 point on your Unit Cap (Which usually had a unit cap of a couple hundred, but also counted your structures in with your unit cap)
I want to be able to build my own base, seek out and collect resources, and build an army to shake the very foundations of the earth as they march on and destroy all in their path.
While the RTS games with resource points aren't that bad, It's not particularly my style. I prefer having a structure and unit combination that, together, their sole purpose is to seek out resources and bring them back to base, as in the Command and Conquer games before 4. Red Alert 3 did simplify the economy a bit, with ore mines (That simply deposited the ore into your Ore Collector, which took a 2 second drive back to your Refinery) instead of ore fields (Which had ore scattered about on the ground, with a drill that would periodically cause more ore to surface, and your Ore Collector had to go pick it up until it was full, then drive back to your Refinery, wherever that was), but there was still a sense of urgency and accomplishment in securing additional ore mines.
And please, can we just get rid of unit caps altogether? They always frustrate me to no end, because most unit caps are kinda small and so to get a decent force that won't get shot down so easily, it ends up being too small a strike force and gets outnumbered, CnC4 was, in my opinion, one of the worst offenders of this. At the very least, make it a 1:1 ratio, like the Supreme Commander series did. 1 Unit, no matter which unit (Even Experimentals, which were massive, powerful, hulking monstrosities that could single-handedly take down an army of 100 units with little support), takes up 1 point on your Unit Cap (Which usually had a unit cap of a couple hundred, but also counted your structures in with your unit cap)
Well, there is the hangar module. While it can't be called proper gameplay per se, but it's more than screenshots. Also, we've had the gameplay vids (though after colonial marines, not exactly proof either). Actual gameplay, in the form of pvp dogfighting module will be coming sometime december, so we'll see. Chris' name carries some weight in the industry, and with reason. If nothing else, we know the "flying around in a spaceship" part of it will be good, which is the important part of the game (there will be planetside FPS parts, and rpg-ish player interaction)amaranth_dru said:
I love Planetary Annihilations ambition! I think we are seeing a shift; it's just most of these games aren't really "out" yet. So, we don't know if they'll be successful or not. Therefor I can't really judge them. (I don't believe in calling final judgement on a game in Alpha or Beta phase) Keep your fingers crossed though, the CPR might come soon.gigastar said:
I don't know what genre Hot Wheels Crash falls into, but we need another car game where the objective is to create as much rube goldberg style mayhem as possible with so many explosions that even michael bay would go insane.
Seriously, I want more of this.
Seriously, I want more of this.
Have you played any of the recent, or maybe not so recent Burnout games. I don't think they've all (or any) have come out for PC, but they usually feature a game mode that is pretty much the same as this, in which you attempt to wreck an intersection, watch like a 10 car pile up, and get paid for the amount of damage you did for some reason. They also have better graphics.Racecarlock said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si3Z99YwjRk
Actually I do have Burnout 3 and revenge, both of which were excellent. They both had good crash modes, but burnout paradise went with showtime and got rid of crashbreakers, which sucks. Also I think they toned the car deformation down for reasons which I still have yet to find because turning down the car deformation in burnout is like turning down the blood in mortal combat. It makes no sense.Ruhsey said:
Still, though, while you can destroy cars, what you can't destroy is airport towers, fireworks factories, buildings in general, or most explosive things excluding fuel trucks. Spli Second has some building destruction, but the problem is you're going by at 100 MPH and can't savor any of it. I want another puzzle-like game like this one that just focuses on blowing up EVERYTHING.
I miss the days when 3D platformers were a big genre. I may have been around when the NES was out, and I had a SNES, but I really started growing up with games when I was playing on my N64 and Playstation. I miss things like Banjo-Kazooie and Croc...