[9/11] A short message to my cousins across the pond.

[lacktheknack]

To certain members of this thread:

LEARN TO HAVE AN OUNCE OF RESPECT AND TACT.

The fact that I can no longer enter a thread with a relevant topic, a well written OP and some good old-fashioned warm fuzzies without suddenly reading ridiculous snarky posts that simply DRIP with "look at me, I'm so edgy" and ridiculously callous, nihlistic downer tones is an utter disgrace. You people are incredibly immature, disrespectful and a fine example of what's wrong with humanity. You can't even leave one single thread on good old-fashioned patriotism without sending out anti-conformist pleas for attention. And don't give me that you're trying to level out the patriotism because you don't agree with it, or that you're only showing how most humans react to these threads. Because you aren't. You're attention-whoring.

OT: I was going to be positive and encouraging to my American neighbors, but I just had it drained out of me. Well done, Escapist forum posters. Well done.

 

[Tiger Sora]

I remember the day this happened. I was only 10 and I didn't understand anything other than alot of people died. Afew days latter I really understood the implications of that days actions.
Just last month my mother past away. She was in her early 40's and much to young. I know the horrible pain now of losing a loved one, like the many that did then.
So to all who lost someone 10 years ago this day, and to most on both sides of the foolhardy war in Afghanistan, my thoughts are with you this day.

 

[TheLaofKazi]

*snip*

I really like those two videos you linked to. The second scene was especially chilling, revealing and poetic.

I find so many topics are so complicated and sensitive that I'm honestly not sure what to say, and this is especially true with war. I can't bring myself to jump to one of the simpler sides, but sometimes I find it so hard to expression my thoughts and emotions on the topic that I just end up saying nothing, or stumbling over my words and sending a message that I didn't want to send.

 

[Kolby Jack]

To the TC: Thanks, brother. That was well-said.

To the trolls: I have nothing to say but that I pity all of you.

 

[BanicRhys]

I can still remember the day this happened and how pissed off I was. Not because a bunch of people died, but because my morning cartoons were replaced with the news (I was 8 so save your rage).

Nowadays I still don't really care too much but I'll respect the people who do see significance in this day and not speak my mind.

 

[Kathinka]

iiii don't know...sure, the loss of innocent lifes is always tragic. but firstly, america kind of had it coming, they worked really, really hard to piss large parts of the world off. and secondly, i don't see any mourne for the iraqi civilians slaughtered in their little oil grab, even though it's about fifty times as many as died in the wtc. makes me sick how the poor shmucks how died that day get instrumentalized. and how well it works. they deserve better.

 

[SixWingedAsura]

Bless you and bless the queen. Honestly I'm happy to hear that someone across the pond doesn't think of us as total dipshits. (Although sometimes, I can't blame you, XD)

 

[FamoFunk]

Because whatever you think, those people working in that tower weren't America. They weren't the government. They were just normal citizens trying to earn their daily bread. They deserve every ounce of compassion that even the most (supposedly) cynical of us can muster. God bless.

Spot on, Sir. A lot of people forget this when they keep going on about conspiracies and whatever.
Around 3000 just went about their day not knowing what lied ahead.

Thoughts are with them all today.

 

[Kinguendo]

Technically its 11/9. And personally i think "get over it". It's happened, it's been, it's gone, you have given the terrorist organisation supposedly responsible hell via your military and shot bin laden. Give us all an effing break from your sob story. I really couldn't care less about those towers. Hey guy's we got bombed too, the biggest response was our lamenting of the trains running late the day after. That is all.

Edit: Also terrorising the world with your absurd pre-flight checks like a bunch of paranoid children.

Your being the potty government.

Wow. Your arrogance is astounding. I really hope you're 14, or at least still a teen, because if you get to adulthood with that level of insensitivity and phenomenally nihilistic mentality, then you have just doomed yourself to a horribly unhappy future.

Is it too much to ask for you to hold that sort of rhetoric inside, instead of whipping out the e-peen to show us all what a cool anti-hipster elitist you are? God! Your arrogance offends the very fabric of common decency. You are a sad little man, who wants so desperately to be Ricky Fitts from American Beauty.

You sir, are a fool, and a crass example of freedom gone amok. However, I thank you for your comment, with all my heart. As a person who has spent at least 8 years of his life in the service of his country, sometimes is harsher lands, I love it when any person expresses their freedom of speech. Because I KNOW it was GIVEN to you, no matter how undeserving, by better men and women than yourself. Men and Women like me.

Good day sir.

... You claim he is arrogant and then say you are better than him. You also assume he is from a country that has a Right to Free Speech when the majority of countries dont.

I dont care what he said and I dont care about your rebuttle, I dislike hypocrisy.

 

[garjian]

Im gonna have to agree with Versuvios on this one.

Worse things have been and gone, worse things will come and go, and its simply beyond time to put this one to bed.

I was tired of hearing about it back in 2006. Here in the UK, you couldnt turn your TV without some whiny american woman crying on my shoulder.
Look, im fine with you being upset if you were effected, and i accept that it represents greater problems with global relations and foreign opinions...

but please, can i just get through this day without "9/11 special" this and "I lost my son 10 years ago" that.
is it not true that roughly 150,000 people (sons, daughters, fathers, mothers... whichever method of dramatisation you prefer) die every day? where's their fanfare? ...thats right, its not on my TV, making me feel indignant, its kept at a personal level where it should be.

Youve had your flight analysis, heard everyone's story, tribute album, commemorative plates, dust analysis, cancer scare, everything... so just drop it already.

 

[Vanguard_Ex]

Well once again, I'm disgusted with a vast majority of this communities compulsion to speak against the crowd and voice their ever so valuable opinion, rather than pay a little compassion.
We remember this day the same reason he honour the days of wars past. Every war is a tragedy. This was a tragedy. Over 3000 people set off on their day the same way many of you will leave for work tomorrow, not thinking twice about whether or not they'll ever come home again.
But no, being the cool guy cynic is far too important for that. Fucking children.

 

[iRevanchist]

I wish all of America could read this. You deserve more than just a few Americans thanking you, but its all we here at the Escapist can do, so: thank you.

I'm originally from DC, and I remember that day very clearly. I remember how my mother was crying as she was picking us up in the middle of school to take us somewhere safe. She had to drive past the Pentagon to get to my school. She saw the running, the choking, the screaming, the blood, and the fire. I can't even imagine watching a burning man running as fast as he could... She came anyway, though. Our school was next to the CIA's headquarters. My mother put my sister in the basement with some art projects so she would be too distracted to ask what was going on. She caught on in an hour. She hasn't gone down into that basement in the past 10 years. I remember watching all of us standing outside, staring up at the skies, waiting to see another explosion. It never came.

Our school did't burn, though. Somewhere in the plan to destroy the CIA that day, it all was foiled. I don't know if a TSA officer had caught him, he didn't complete flight training in time, or hell, if he just grew a conscious.

Anyway, I just wanted to give my two cents. Maybe have some people understand why this is such a big deal to us.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I begrudgingly agree. I'm not a massive America fan, but 2977 dead people is 2977 dead people. I'm sort of surprised how much I care; with other tragedies I've felt a little detached, but for some reason 9/11 seems to resonate a bit more. Possibly because I was a kid at the time, and I can't think of many tragedies in my life time that have had the same effect. It might be how it's affected so much that makes me feel a little bit more sad.

 

[The-Epicly-Named-Man]

Technically its 11/9. And personally i think "get over it". It's happened, it's been, it's gone, you have given the terrorist organisation supposedly responsible hell via your military and shot bin laden. Give us all an effing break from your sob story. I really couldn't care less about those towers. Hey guy's we got bombed too, the biggest response was our lamenting of the trains running late the day after. That is all.

Edit: Also terrorising the world with your absurd pre-flight checks like a bunch of paranoid children.

Your being the potty government.

Hell I'm with you dude. I don't mean to be offensive about it or anything, yeah it was a tragic day but people really lack perspective. I just don't see why it warrants more attention and respect than a lot of other tragic days/events.

It wouldn't be so bad if it was just remembered on the day either given it wasn't that long ago but ffs it seems to be dredged up every 5 minutes.

I'm with you two as well. I'm not being a d*ck, it's just that it's a bit annoying when everyone in the media becomes obsessed with one tragedy, forgetting all the sh*t the America has done to Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. 9/11 was a terrible incident, yes, but the fact that it's treated with more respect than the Holocaust seems a bit disrespectful.

 

[Abedeus]

There has been speculation that there may be another attack which is why they have stepped up security in the city for a few days.

I'm just hoping it's just speculation.

Serioulsy? The eleventh is already sad, if another attack happens, we're going to have to cut it out of the calendar.

That's your argument? "It'd be kicking a crippled puppy"?

World doesn't work like a movie, sorry. Frankly, won't be surprised if something happens today.

 

[Bradeck]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say most of the cool edgy tough people here who aren't particularly caring, we're born recently, or recently enough that they were not of an age to properly take in the magnitude of what happened in 2001.

JMHO, but if someone can't understand it, then I guess that's fine. No reason to force understanding of a tragic event. I'm sure you feel the same about any other recent tragedy, or avian flu, or all the starving people that die in the world, or AIDS, or Cancer, because it's all just as pointless.

I just, that's very depressing, that state of mind. And to the people who said we had it coming, I don't know how to respond to that. The people who died in the towers, in the planes, in the pentagon, weren't all American. You know that right? When you say "WE" or "THEY" had it coming, you mean innocent people? Innocent people had been getting by for too long? Needed a wake up?

Of course if you meant AMERICA had it coming, well then, that sucks. I'm not going to debate the veracity of that claim. I will however state that i sick, disgusting, and perverted.

 

[Nigh Invulnerable]

Technically its 11/9. And personally i think "get over it". It's happened, it's been, it's gone, you have given the terrorist organisation supposedly responsible hell via your military and shot bin laden. Give us all an effing break from your sob story. I really couldn't care less about those towers. Hey guy's we got bombed too, the biggest response was our lamenting of the trains running late the day after. That is all.

Edit: Also terrorising the world with your absurd pre-flight checks like a bunch of paranoid children.

Your being the potty government.

Wow. Your arrogance is astounding. I really hope you're 14, or at least still a teen, because if you get to adulthood with that level of insensitivity and phenomenally nihilistic mentality, then you have just doomed yourself to a horribly unhappy future.

Is it too much to ask for you to hold that sort of rhetoric inside, instead of whipping out the e-peen to show us all what a cool anti-hipster elitist you are? God! Your arrogance offends the very fabric of common decency. You are a sad little man, who wants so desperately to be Ricky Fitts from American Beauty.

You sir, are a fool, and a crass example of freedom gone amok. However, I thank you for your comment, with all my heart. As a person who has spent at least 8 years of his life in the service of his country, sometimes is harsher lands, I love it when any person expresses their freedom of speech. Because I KNOW it was GIVEN to you, no matter how undeserving, by better men and women than yourself. Men and Women like me.

Good day sir.

Oh stop looking down on me, and nice job at being passive agressive. I just can't give a damn about people at the other side of the globe. Moreso in all of the conflict in the world, all of that the western world has caused itself in it's pointless wars, this is a mere drop in the ocean. The US army was in foreign lands causing a royal muckup and it came and had a strike back. Casualties of war and all that. People died, people's relatives died. They have my sympathy but thats as far as it goes. A great big whingy hoohah, every year an excuse to cling to the old grudge, renew the axe to grind and get upset again over something a decade old. You know what, the UK was blitzed into oblivion by the germans during the war and we certain as hell don't make a yearly bawww out of it. It is confined to the history books and taught to our children, maybe the US should take on the example. But it won't happen.

You know the old "If you can't say something nice" adage? You could've prevented this.

Also, I'm willing to bet folks in the UK had memorials and services for the blitz for a decade after the war. Give it some time and get your head out of your arse and don't be a dick about it.