91 year old sentenced to jail for his role in killing Jews.

[6037084]

I just clapped. As in, in real life. Let him spend his last few years in hell. It's a small justice for what he did.

<link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment>Milgram's Experiment

I don't really care why he did it. He did it, and he should be punished.

If you had the choice to either kill other people or get killed by someone else by not obeying orders YOU WOULD KILL THE OTHER PEOPLE basic evolution self preservation, thats why there are wars if men are forced into a situation where their life is in danger they'll do everything possible to not die. He wasn't any different

 

[SinisterGehe]

No, he did the crime, so he deserves the time. 'nuff said.

Your mother was murdered yesterday along with 27,899 others. But it was all in the past, so let it go..

I think that would be bit different. we have had generations that have passed after this event. Not hours.

On topic:
I think they should let them man be. He might drop dead tomorrow by the looks and I am sure he has thought trough hes crimes many times already. When Did the "Don't strike the one whos lying on the ground" go out of fashion? Also, I don't know what the heck is the law over there but, honestly... Comon. At least Scandinavian countries along with other countries have some sense in their heads and regulated a law in which Past acts there were not illegal then can not be sentenced after a new law.

I think this is the type of behavior that prevents people from getting along and prospering. Can we stop ripping open the old wounds, there was great deal of injustice done against other minorities also so why don't we talk about that? Oh yeah, they are minorities so we do not need to.

Humans of all kind disgust me...

 

[emeraldrafael]

Its nice to see the world is continuing to uphold its end of the bargain.

... I dont know, I'm not Jewish, so I cant say its particularly impacted my deeply, but considering that he did do this, He should be lucky he wasnt hanged back in Israel. Cart him off, he'll be going to Germany, and should be made to stand up for his actions.

 

[Tsaba]

so Israel exonerates him... hmmm
exonerate:
1. (esp. of an official body) Absolve (someone) from blame for a fault or wrongdoing, esp. after due consideration of the case.
..... so he was proven innocent of crimes in the country of the people he committed this "offense" against, then 20+ years later is then carted off to Germany to stand trial again.... A US Citizen (He's from the Ukraine originally I'm got that)..... to stand trial for a crime in a country that made him stand as guard at the gates of a death camp with their gun to his back.....

Did I get that right, because, I don't think I missed anything.

 

[CommonSense1013]

Yeah it's like, if you murder people, after fifty years you should be able to get off for it.
We're apparently punishing him for the sake of punishing him not because he committed a crime or something. He's an old dude so we should be nice to him.

[which Past acts there were not illegal then can not be sentenced after a new law.]

I'm pretty sure murder was illegal back then too. "Humans of all kinds disgust me." Statements like that are the pinnacle of idiocy.


[If you had the choice to either kill other people or get killed by someone else by not obeying orders YOU WOULD KILL THE OTHER PEOPLE basic evolution self preservation, thats why there are wars if men are forced into a situation where their life is in danger they'll do everything possible to not die. He wasn't any different]

If you know ANYTHING about history you would know that people were not KILLED for not obeying orders, they were transferred to less favorable positions and backwater outposts. God, the fact that anyone still uses that argument is disturbing.

 

[subtlefuge]

A large percentage of the people responsible have changed their ways, but they still have a debt to society for the role that they played in those atrocities.

Also, no statute of limitations on murder.

 

[Dolos]

I completely agree with their decision to put this man behind bars. it does not matter how long ago he did those crimes, he still needs to be punished. i don' t think we should give criminals a chance to hide out for some odd + years and then get away with their crimes scott free.

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

Dude was a guard. He may have been vehemently pro-Nazi, or he just may have been following orders. It's impossible to know. But did he actually commit any war crimes? It's not like every single German soldier during WW2 was sent to prison. What makes this guy so special?

My gut instinct? Show some mercy.

 

[6037084]

If you know ANYTHING about history you would know that people were not KILLED for not obeying orders, they were transferred to less favorable positions and backwater outposts. God, the fact that anyone still uses that argument is disturbing.

My great grand uncle was killed for not obeying his superior during the Estonian War of Independence ( the battalion he was in didn't wan't to advance so every 10th man was shot) things were a lot different 60 and more years ago especially during greater wars where the people fighting were FORCED into the military -.-

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

...Don't think he would survive the 5 years in jail.

Dude, he's 91. He probably wouldn't survive 5 years in a fucking palace.

This is an odd one, though. I mean, usually we only put people in prison to rehabilitate them or to keep them from doing it again. Obviously, neither of those things are applicable here. On the other hand, it IS the system. You commit a crime, you go to jail. No exceptions. No age limit.

 

[6037084]

I still think I would deserve punishment for that.

You wouldn't if you were actually in that position, you'd feel horrible about what you had done but you wouldn't want to go to jail for a lifetime because of it.

 

[SNIPERFOX ft. Harry P.Ness]

If some people read the damn article it clearly states he was a soviet POW FORCED to be a guard. his rank was the lowest of the low. so no blame goes to the SS?

yeah, like no capable allies soilders were forced to sign up, and were beaten if they refused their orders.

hell, half my family were Soviet soilder who fought in the war, and some were captured & freed.

 

[JasonKaotic]

People are way too soft on these sorts of people. Seriously. He did those awful things and hasn't been punished for it, and just because it's been a while since then, people think we should forgive him.
Time going on doesn't change the past, as cheesy as that probably sounds.
Besides, 7 years is much less than most serial killers would get. And this guy was responsible for the deaths of thousands. He can consider himself extremely lucky he isn't in for longer.
I know he probably won't live through those whole 7 years, but there are some luckier people that make it around 100 years old, remember. So he could end up a free man at some point. Which isn't a good thing.

 

[Chaza]

I'm conflicited in this.
On one hand he was just a lowly prison guard who apparently was a P.O.W so there are most probably other people who we should try to convict and punish.

Buuuut...

He did help in it and he could have been a really nasty guy. If he does get life imprisonment well that won't be for that long. And he might as well be punished for his crimes as though he may have not directly killed any jews he did have a part to play.
But I'd rather see him not go to a average prision as he will get eaten alive.