92 year old WWII vet bootlegs 300,000 DVDs and sends them to American soldiers in Afghanastan

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Samantha Burt

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ToTaL LoLiGe said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
ToTaL LoLiGe said:
People don't argue with Mortai Gravesend you won't win, he's an argument machine.
You have some kind of problem with me? Then deal with me, don't go trying to spread it to other people like that.
It was a joke, and I've been reading on the forums long enough to know that you argue with people quite a lot.
You get more of a conversation going playing Devil's Advocate. Of course some people do so to win, but hey, I'm one of them sometimes. xD
 

Technocrat

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One could argue it's a "when in Rome" situation. From having lived in that part of the world, I can guarantee that almost every DVD in Afghanistan is bootlegged anyway. And not even the decent kind of bootleg, but the sort with people standing up in front of it because it was filmed on a camcorder in the cinema.

After all, it's the kind of country where, in most parts, DVDs would be illegal full stop thanks to sharia.
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
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Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't see why people think soldiers deserve such special treatment. They get paid over there, they aren't saints or something. And being a WWII veteran doesn't really give him leave to break the law.
No but we're bored out of our freaking minds. You try living in a shithole for a year with a gym, dining facility, and going on mission for a few hours a day and see if you don't go crazy. Been there, done that. Bootlegs are the only way to get movies over there. Can't buy them, limited to 1 DVD per care package to an individual, can't download, running 15kb/s takes days to download anything.
Yeah, but I don't see that someone being bored is a great reason to break the law on their behalf. And if you can only get 1 DVD per care package how is he sending them to avoid that? If there's another method I'd wonder why others don't use it.
Hence why I said "per individual." Send it to a company or platoon and you can send as many as you want. Yay for loopholes. Also, and this one is awesome lol, there's no copyright laws in Iraq or Afghanistan so pirating movies is perfectly legal there
 

Risingblade

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If he believes he did the right thing then he shouldn't have any regrets if the companies come after him.


I wonder how many of these soldiers actually had dvd players over there
 

Richardplex

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On the one hand, just because they're soldiers and he's 92 and a war vet doesn't excuse breaking the law.

On the other hand, I think we can all safely assume that these companies aren't losing sales/revenue here, thus eliminating the reason piracy is illegal in the first place.

On the oth... shit, out of hands. Guess I have to have an opinion on just this. I don't approve, but I don't disapprove either.
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't see why people think soldiers deserve such special treatment. They get paid over there, they aren't saints or something. And being a WWII veteran doesn't really give him leave to break the law.
For what it's worth i agree with you here, i find the unquestionable hero worship given to soldiers kind of disturbing...

On the other hand this guy is a total bro, how the hell do you actually manage to bootleg 300,000 dvds and send them to Afghanistan anyway?
 

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Mortai Gravesend said:
DrMegaNutz said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't see why people think soldiers deserve such special treatment. They get paid over there, they aren't saints or something. And being a WWII veteran doesn't really give him leave to break the law.
No but we're bored out of our freaking minds. You try living in a shithole for a year with a gym, dining facility, and going on mission for a few hours a day and see if you don't go crazy. Been there, done that. Bootlegs are the only way to get movies over there. Can't buy them, limited to 1 DVD per care package to an individual, can't download, running 15kb/s takes days to download anything.
Yeah, but I don't see that someone being bored is a great reason to break the law on their behalf. And if you can only get 1 DVD per care package how is he sending them to avoid that? If there's another method I'd wonder why others don't use it.
I won't say it's legal but all things considered it still seems like a relatively minor infraction to me. It's all the better if it keeps some of the troops over there from doing stupid things because they're bored(Idle hands and all that).
If I had to guess he probably just burns multiple movie files to said disc since most movies don't actually consume the whole 4 odd gigs of space so each single dvd he sends probably has like 4 movies I think. Perhaps he puts in multiple discs in a single dvd case?
 

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I am a pacifist who hates our troops fighting, and even I think this is awesome.

It's not if it is right or not, its that he did something that cost him time and money and gave him no benefit to himself, to bring joy to others that didn't have the means to. While its not feeding orphans its still cool.
 

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either the MPAA lets a pirate go
or they end up suing a 92 WWII vet that supports the troops in his own way
I would love to see how this ends

hey escapists for the sake of discussion what if this was a teenager instead of a WWII vet would you still defend him?
 

Maze1125

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He wasn't doing it for profit, so I really don't see the issue here.
Chances are he'll get away with it too, due to the circumstances. America seems to be an obscenely pro soldier country.
 

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While his intent was admirable I still an uncomfortable with this flagrant breaking of the law. I would of far preferred if he campaigned for a charity to the intended effect.
 

Kennetic

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Mortai Gravesend said:
DrMegaNutz said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
DrMegaNutz said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
I don't see why people think soldiers deserve such special treatment. They get paid over there, they aren't saints or something. And being a WWII veteran doesn't really give him leave to break the law.
No but we're bored out of our freaking minds. You try living in a shithole for a year with a gym, dining facility, and going on mission for a few hours a day and see if you don't go crazy. Been there, done that. Bootlegs are the only way to get movies over there. Can't buy them, limited to 1 DVD per care package to an individual, can't download, running 15kb/s takes days to download anything.
Yeah, but I don't see that someone being bored is a great reason to break the law on their behalf. And if you can only get 1 DVD per care package how is he sending them to avoid that? If there's another method I'd wonder why others don't use it.
Hence why I said "per individual." Send it to a company or platoon and you can send as many as you want. Yay for loopholes. Also, and this one is awesome lol, there's no copyright laws in Iraq or Afghanistan so pirating movies is perfectly legal there
Ah I see. With 300k DVDs sending to the company or platoon seems a lot more feasible.

Well I don't think the copyright thing would help him much since he's in the US. Though I suppose it'd make it legal to have them over there once they arrive.
I'm not really defending him, I'm defending myself. He took that risk so whatever happens so be it but the American people won't be happy if he gets sued but not all the teenage game pirates out there.
 

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I'd find the not bad image but I cant be bothered so a simple padded out fair play sums up my thoughts on this thing

*ahem*

Fair play.
 

Aris Khandr

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CM156 said:
On topic, I think the MPAA going after this guy would be PR suicide. Plain and simple. So of course, they're going to do it.
They will. The way copyright law works, if you know about the violation and don't go after it, you lose the right to go after future violators. Odds are, this will end with a quick, undisclosed settlement.